Men's basketball
Contrary to my prior post, Chris Singletary is NOT suspended for the MAC Tournament.
I apologize for the confusion. I heard the news from someone who is credible and who works for the university. Apparently, the suspension is not true at all.
I called Rick Boyages to find out how this miscommunication occurred. I got his voicemail and asked him to call me back.
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Yeah sure, your source sounds very credible.
"the whole shebang is your answer." You must feel like a jackass Rasor, hahaaaa!!!! I knew the whole time he would not be suspended because Reghi explained the rule during the first half.
The old "he who laughs last, laughs loudest" saying comes to mind in regard to Kent State. Do they really think we're not going to smear their grimy faces in it after sending them whining/crying/stomping to the showers in the MAC tourney? Oh, revenge is so sweet.
"Do they really think we're not going to smear their grimy faces in it after sending them whining/crying/stomping to the showers in the MAC tourney?"
Like kent did to akron last year in the title game?
When was the last time akron had the last laugh in the MAC tourney? hahaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
a couple of years ago when the zips came back from like a 15 or 20 point deficit to win in the semi's.
How did that tourney end bob? The name Doug Penno bring back memories?
It;s a shame when Akron fans have to celebrate a semi-final win. I guess beggars can't be choosy. Thugs? Yeah, Jeremiah Wood was a class act.
yeah, it was a heartbreaking loss to miami. doesn't change the fact that kent got knocked out by little ole sucky akron after being WAY ahead at the half.
i still don't see any kent fans actually defending the actions of their beloved singletary.
As a Kent fan that was a bs cheap shot by Singletary and I hope Ford does the right thing and gets rid of this clown. How many chances can you give a player? Hope to see round 3 (no pun intended) on Saturday night.
I guess I wasn't so "aptly" named after all, huh Rasor?
all you kent fans are just as pathetic as singletary. it happened 1:08 minutes into the game. if ford wants to stick up for the integrity of the program, he will suspend him and show that type of behavior is not condoned.
Bob, you seem really hung up on the MAC Tournament 2 years ago. What happened last year? I thought we played Akron, but it seems only the JV team showed up. Hardly any fans even showed up.
"zips" if you want to talk about doing the right thing, then let's do the right right thing. Suspend Singletary AND Akron's #13, who, upon leaving the court after the game, pointed at the "Akron" across his chest then flicked the Kent student section off with his hand held against his jersey so his coaches couldn't see it from behind.
Class act, huh?
Kent fans…really? What's a matter, the Kent Daily Starter not giving you guys enough to chat about?
On a side note, does Akron have a feeder system for whiny, obnoxious, over-exaggerating white kids? Between Linhart (sp?), Dials and the former coach's sons, you guys could run a vineyard with that whine.
No. The DKS is busy covering important information and winning several esteemed awards for it.
@ Realism
Oh, nevermind him. That's just his Serbian welcome!
Haha, sure that's why I had to google to find out what the hell it is.
You being/not being familiar with another school's program isn't exactly a measuring stick for excellence…
Jeremiah Wood was a class act, he played with heart and with the team in mind. I would take a Wood anyday over the gangbangers and punks you guys have.
Mike – don't you owe "wrong" an apology? You called him out, and basically told him he didn't know what he was talking about.
Again, you've had just as many gangbankers and punks. You covering the team should know that more than anyone else. What about the kid from Buchtel that transfered in after getting kicked out his freshman year at another DI school. No one seemed to have a problem with that. How many years is he doing?
realism – you need to come back to the real world.
punching someone in the chest is a little different than flicking off the other team's student section. yeah – it was a dumb gesture, but he is a freshman. singletary has had numerous chances to prove himself. he struck someone with a fist – he does that outside ray's, at the student center, in the library, he is arrested. he has been at kent for three years, and he still doesn't know what class or integrity means.
When akron wins they are the greatest, when they lose their fans and coach claim moral superiority. Sanctimonious bunk.
Where were all these Kent fans when we beat you by 14 in January? And I don't just mean on this site, you didn't come to the game either.
proof is on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeMGdn_6-2A&eurl=http://zipsnation.org/forums//index.php?showtopic=13012
Mike has threatened teachers at KENT before. He rarely shows up for classes. As a Kent teacher he needs to go back to Chicago.
I do not know a Mike from Chicago!
Kent State is a disgusting place where professors are allowed to condone and praise 9/11 without consequence, athletes commit crimes and are allowed to participate still, students disrespect America at every opportunity, and the perfect example of the lack of morality of much of America is on display for all to see.
"We are Kent State" eh?
Mike,
Some of what you write about KSU "being a disgusting liberal place" is true and that's the same at most American Universities. Are you trying to say that U of A is some type of "heartbeat of College Conservatism"? Hell, my own daughter graduated from U of A last spring and I know many of her friends that she has had since her freshman yeat at Grant Hall. They're just typical young people and don't seem to be any differnent from my other daughter (who goes to Kent) and all of her friends.
Kent State is not some school where students or professors sit around planning anti-governemnt strategies or anything like that. Walk the campus' at both schools (as I have many times). The faces you see don't look much different. Are there nucklehead kids at KSU (athletes and regular students)? Absolutely. Just the same as there is at U of A.
Come on Mike, lighten up…
nice video clips on Zipsnation
here's the humor in the situation
Singletary has that move of raising his arms over his head and being consoled by his coach down pat.
he's practiced that move a few times in the past so it's an automatic response.
could the timing of the " felons R us " banner been any more timely — lol
there is one way to settle this matter
both teams MAN UP and we'll see you in the championship
nice publicity for the MAC tournament — everybody will be following the path of both teams
Good Luck ~ GO ZIPS!
Hey zinger –
"Singletary has that move of raising his arms over his head and being consoled by his coach down pat."
Learning to raise your arms over your head is included in the 'fundamentals' portion of the Can't basketball program.
The last part of that sentence should probably have read "… and being PATTED DOWN by his coach."
Yeah, just another Goody Two-Shoes Akron fan piling on.
How does anybody let "gokent" get off scott free? We talk about thugs and punks on your team, right now… and all he has is a kid who transfered, tried to walk on, and was in trouble before he even participated in one practice?! I'm not even sure he shows up in the Akron history books… he never did anything with the Zips.
But sure, that's the same as one of your star players punching a kid in the chest 1 minute into the game and then being consoled by your coach and fans. If we'd have done something like that, Dambrot would have flipped out on the kid and sent him to the locker room.
pdt, that's just it. If Singletary was an Akron athlete, is days of playing would have been long over by now. We don't put up with that crap, but Kent continues to give him more chances.
I honestly think this talk is cheap. I said that a couple years ago when the Akron players were caught harboring weapons. Any fan can point their fingers at any team and label them "disfunctional." Today it is Singletary, in a year it will be an Akron player. In the past Akron had Bosley. Ohio State had its share of thugs. In this NBA-gangsta basketball world we live in today, this crap is going to happen. Its rediculous to think that Akron has no "issues." Chris' issue is that he can't turn the pressure cooker off when it get too hot, then he blows. Then people start labeling. So, remember this Akron. I'm sure your future thug that can score 15 ppg is playing on a high school court somewhere right now.
Hey Akron fans, you're not getting off that lightly…
Talk all you want to about Singletary being a thug. By your definition, he is (I say "by your" because there is no true definition to that word).
So is Rydell Brooks. So was Derek Tarver. And John Hollingsworth. And DeVoe Torrence. All Akron athletes.
On the flip side, there is a population of whiny, obnoxious athletes that ruin the game in a different way. Nick Dials was the king of this category, but it appears Linhart is doing his best to wear that crown.
Mike,
(Not an Akron or a Kent supporter here)
Obviously, it's possible to make mistakes in reporting, ask Chris Mortensen, but come on. If your information came from a university source, and not Rick Boyages, then your initial post breaking the "news" (read: invention) that Singletary was going to be suspended for the entire tournament should have reflected that and not made it sound like something you heard from Boyages directly. Also you're supposed to confirm things like that with a second source before reporting it.
I realize this is a blog, so technically you can do whatever you want, but we're talking Journalism 101 here and whether you're an Akron homer or not I'd expect better from something on the ABJ website.
I'm glad you apologized for the confusion. You should apologize for passing off a half-baked rumor as a fact that you heard from someone in the MAC Office too.
Inexcusable. Take accountability.
While talking about THIS hit, let's not forget about this exact game last season in Kent, when your player went berserk, causing a 15-20 minute on-the-court fight.
Both benches cleared. A Kent fan got stomped on and had to receive medical treatment. Akron's player was FLAILING fists while being restrained by his teammates, coaches and the refs. If you don't remember (or, as an Akron fan, conveniently forgot) just check Ohio.com's photo library.
That's not lessening anything that Singletary did.
But let us not lessen the actions of your team last year (which were FAR worse, FAR more uncalled for, and drew FAR less reaction from any of you), while exaggerating those actions of Singletary.
If you want to talk about dirty athletes in college sports, Akron has a library of their own incidents, from last year's melee, to two recent football games against Kent State (http://kentstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=718448), and back to 2002, when your football team was on national tv taking cheap shot after cheap shot on Byron Leftwich to take him out of a game you stood no chance of winning.
The true difference between Kent and Akron fans: Kent fans can admit if one of their athletes does something stupid. Akron fans ignore that any of their athletes ever have…
"But let us not lessen the actions of your team last year (which were FAR worse, FAR more uncalled for, and drew FAR less reaction from any of you), while exaggerating those actions of Singletary."
At the end of a game when emotions are running high is when you say that emotions got the best of you. 1 minute into the game, it's a premeditated attack. NOTHING happened in that first minute that would make "he let his emotions get the best of him" a legitimate excuse.
Exactly, Bob. Which is why I'm not making a huge deal out of the fact that #13 flicked off the entire Kent student section following the game. Although, he DOES deserve punishment for that, and he will NOT receive any from Akron or the MAC.
Singletary's emotions may have been predetermined as result of last year's game. They could have been meant to just show Linhart that he wasn't going to take any whining, as Linhart has tendency to do, like Dials before him. We don't know. Again, I'm not justifying Singletary's actions. But it seems you guys have an excuse any time an Akron athlete does anything (when it was Rydell Brooks, it was "he's not really on the team. Dambrot let him walk on as a nice gesture to a local kid.").
Re-watch Singletary's hit. The inside camera angle definitely looks like a pre-meditated jab. But all the other camera angles show Singletary turning his head while it's happening, as if it was a movement rather than an intentional punch. I think he meant to get a shot on Linhart, but I don't think it was meant to be a straight punch to the gut. Remember, slow motion aside, that it was a quick movement while Linhart was jumping.
That's not saying Singletary's innocent, but more research needs done to see if he definitely deserves to be punished further. As early as it happened, he missed an entire game–and Kent's most important of the year.
How can someone punch an unprotected player and not get suspended while if you fight with someone you get suspended? Too bad Dambrot didn't put Sweich in to set a screen on Fisher and acccidentally put his elbow through Fisher's nose.
How many games did Rydell Brooks play for Akron? Even dress for? As for all of you Kent fans, when was the last time Kent won a tournament game? Nice showing last year by the way. At least Akron wins a game or two in the NIT when they get in.
Here we go again. Did I not just say that any time an Akron player does anything bad, you guys have an excuse???
Bubba, in your distorted view of "The World in the Eyes of Akron Sports," you can think that a cheap hit in a basketball game is not as bad as shooting at police officers with a real gun and real bullets. In the Real World, we'll continue to think logically…
In your same distorted world, you can think that an NIT win is bigger than an NCAA Tourney loss. But the rest of us will understand just how desperate your excuses are.
Hey, maybe once/if you get that esteemed Akron degree, you will tell us all how great it is to be Employee of the Month at McDonald's, and how you would prefer that to being a mid-level manager at Google, because Employee of the Month is WAY better than mid-level employee any day. Right?
PS: Bubba, please don't spit in my fries at lunch…
"Realism?" Sounds more like "rationalization."
Kevin, read my previous posts and tell me that. Don't just read the latest comment and jump in like you know where I'm coming from.
"Exactly, Bob. Which is why I'm not making a huge deal out of the fact that #13 flicked off the entire Kent student section following the game. Although, he DOES deserve punishment for that, and he will NOT receive any from Akron or the MAC."
yes, this is, in my book, trashy.
"They could have been meant to just show Linhart that he wasn't going to take any whining, as Linhart has tendency to do, like Dials before him."
whining? Oh like how Singletary had his hands over his head with that "I didn't do anything, this is unfair" look as he is told to leave? If being mad about a bunch in the ribs is whining, than I'm perfectly fine with having the whole team be called whining babies.
"Rydell Brooks, it was "he's not really on the team. Dambrot let him walk on as a nice gesture to a local kid.")"
Rydell more than messed up, and there really weren't indicators that he would start shooting at cops. He's in jail now where he belongs. Of course the school needs to put as much distance between them and him. It looks bad, but it would look even worse if he was one of our stars.
"That's not saying Singletary's innocent, but more research needs done to see if he definitely deserves to be punished further. As early as it happened, he missed an entire game–and Kent's most important of the year."
doesn't matter. It counts as a game played, and should not even be considered a suspension. I guess we just wait and see what the Kent athletic department decides.
Well, I'd say both schools have some fans with passion! I just wish it would translate into sell-outs for both schools every night! We've got the best teams in northeast Ohio (with CSU a close third) and no one comes to the games until we play each other! Sad. Look at all the fun northeast Ohio is missing! Don't tell me it's the economy. If that school from Columbus were to play a game up here… anywhere, you wouldn't be able to get a ticket. Oh, wait, TOSU would never play at Akron or at Kent, because they would get beat!
Realism, anytime you would care to compare paystubs let me know. All I asked was how many games did Brooks play for Akron. And that somehow sets you off??? And yes winning a game or two in the NIT looks better for the MAC than getting blown out in the NCAA tournament against another mid-major.
Sounds good Bubba. Where do you want to meet?
On a side note, evidently it doesn't look better. Here's the proof. The team that lost the NCAA game to another mid-major beat the team that won one NIT game three times in the very same season–the third of which was a 19-point beat down.
Talk about not showing up in the post season? Kent's loss to UNLV was by less than that! Also, didn't Akron lose in the NIT to a mid-major?
Bubba: In addition, I wasn't being "set off." Just adding some humor to the debate. And you did take the exact excuse I just said Akron fans always use, and used it in your debate.
Bubba: are you joking? Are you alive? If you are under 5 years old, I could see how you could ask the last time Kent has won an NCAA-T game. I'm not going to insult your intelligence by telling you when Kent State won an NCAA game. But I will point out the fact that Kent has had better showing in the post-season than Akron in my lifetime. Wait, no-no, you guys beat us in the MAC semis 2 years ago. But then what happened? Oh yea, you guys couldn't stomach losing because of your inability to miss fould shots, so the refs were your intended target. Now you guys lost, and the biggest concern you have is Chris Singletary?? Seriously? I hope your team isin't moping around as much as your fans because you guys have bigger problems in the next 2 days than Chris.
GoldenFlash1982 Says:
"Well, I'd say both schools have some fans with passion! I just wish it would translate into sell-outs for both schools every night! We've got the best teams in northeast Ohio (with CSU a close third) and no one comes to the games until we play each other! Sad. Look at all the fun northeast Ohio is missing! Don't tell me it's the economy. If that school from Columbus were to play a game up here… anywhere, you wouldn't be able to get a ticket. Oh, wait, TOSU would never play at Akron or at Kent, because they would get beat!"
Dude, if I can find you at Flannery's, I am buying you a drink. I don't know who you are, and I'm not going to post my contact on here, but if I somehow find you, I owe you.
Wow, over taken by Kent trash..
…And, BZ, Akron students that don't know proper English…
Don't you mean, "Akron students WHO don't know proper English"?
Sorry, couldn't help myself. I'm enjoying the back-and-forth, though.
Someone that started a sentence with… and commas where they don't belong is talking about someone elses English.
Kent trash is priceless….LOL at KSU grads….
For both sides: we don't need gramar police! Its a bleeding blog! We aren't talking serious writing samples here.
You left out the ' in "its"
Just messing with you…LOL
all i know is kent state is everything that is wrong with america these days. It's leftist beliefs and people are the downfall of capitalism and morality.
Mike, sports. We're talking sports here. I'm sure the BJ has another blog for you.
C'mon Rasor, I have to believe you're smarter than that. Now, if you were to say "all I know is that higher education is everything that is wrong…" without singling out Kent State, I might have to agree with you. But for you to claim that Kent is any more "leftist" than any other institution of higher learning, including yours, is a bit ridiculous. I am a conservative Kent State grad, as is my wife and all three of our children and their spouses, as well as all of our siblings and their spouses (ten people total.) Time to grow up, dude.
Stow Flash has a point there. Most upper education is leftist based.
That and the current socialist in office is why the future looks bleak…
KentCat has an excellent point as well to which I would add that this is about A GAME. So your team lost A GAME. BOO HOO. So now you point a finger at the other team's institution and say, "Well, they're what's wrong with this country…" because you're upset that your team lost a silly basketball game? Seriously? Again, time to grow up.
First off, I'm pretty sure "Mike R." is not actually Mike Rasor himself. Rasor posts under the name "mrasor."
Second, I have to agree with "Stow Flash." I'm a conservative who graduated from Kent State, and the hippies there drive me crazier than they do you. However, I know just as many liberals from Akron, Ohio State, Cleveland State, and most other public universities. Kent certainly has a much-deserved hippie stereotype, but I'll bet the actual percentage of liberal students is virtually no different from that of Akron.
Realism is correct. There are liberal nutjobs everywhere..
Thanks, Realism. You're right. I only post under "mrasor."
Sorry, Rasor, my bad. You know, I was surprised because despite our difference in university allegiance, I usually respect your opinion…glad I don't have to change my mind about that!
I'm a current student at Kent State and I way so say that I've gone from moderate left to moderate right in less than 2 years here.
Poetic justice Rasor. KSU suspended him.
http://www.kentstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=47654&SPID=4464&DB_OEM_ID=11400&ATCLID=3688912
A bit of info about Sigletary from kent's website: Personal: Born March 16, 1988 (20 years old) … Is the son of Catrina Singletary … Majoring in human movement studies.
http://www.kentstatesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=11400&ATCLID=605716
"Human movement studies"… is that like human bowel movement?? Impressive. I bet he is getting free rent from some state in the next 5 years. Steady job too…we will always need licence plates.
What a thug. KSU should be proud that this guy keeps getting 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc….chances.
Akron, let's turn the tables. Would you really care so much about whether or not Singletary gets suspended if he weren't so good? You say Kent gives him chances because of his talent. Maybe you want him in trouble even more due to the very reason?
Because your thug that started the melee last year, which was FAR worse than what Singletary did, was NOT suspended, and I don't believe was even kicked out of the game. Your thugs that intentionally twisted Eugene Jarvis's ankle two years in a row in football AFTER a play was over was NOT suspended, and NOT kicked out of the games, and your coach even went out of his way to defend him! No one at Kent has gone out of their way to make excuses for Singletary. Second chances? Yes. But show me the last college athlete that was kicked off a team for a DUI.
In addition, this is Singletary's first on-court issue. Linhart cheap-shotted him last year at the MAC title game because you guys were getting pounded, and was not kicked out of the game or suspended, and Dambrot even defended Linhart a year later. Ford didn't defend Singletary's action Saturday.
And let's not forget your active recruiting of DeVoe Torrence as soon as Ohio State withdrew his scholarship offer last year. He was recruited, given a scholarship, defended, and paraded around by Akron.
Tyree Evans had past issues. They were all from at least four years ago. He has played in JuCo's since and never had an issue. He was not recruited by Kent State. He was not offered a scholarship. He was not defended by coaches or athletic administrators. He was not given excuses by Kent's athletic PR department. And he had to finish a semester before he was even allowed to step on the court. He finished that semester with the best grades of his life.
When has Akron demonstrated that kind of class with a player that has had past issues? They weren't so restrictive with Tarvar, Hollingsworth, Brooks, Torrence…
I'm not excusing Singletary. He has proven he makes stupid decisions at time. But maybe you guys should look at your own programs before getting too worked up about this. When Brooks got in trouble, Kent fans were classy enough to leave it with a simple "Hey Akron, remember this the next time you claim WE only recruit thugs, criminals and JuCos."
Apparently, you didn't remember…
A hard hit or a hard foul is boarderline questionable. Like you said, none of these players were kicked out (or even called for a foul) because the refs decided the action didn't merit it. Singletary was wrong, and caught and should be suspended. It's not just a DUI on his record, but resisting arrest, noise complaints, and now this. That gives him a history.
Also, KentStateSucks, a human movement degree is in the PE department and those types of degrees require a lot of knowledge in biology, anatomy, and physiology. If you think those are fluff classes, I would have to disagree.
Well, the UA AD has it right, ""I would hope that our fans, our student-athletes, put the emphasis on us, in supporting us rather than saying things or doing things that are negative against Kent," Rhoades said. Has he BEEN to any athletic events or ever read any of his schools' blogs because he's sure living in a dream world of that's what he thinks is going on. And I'm not saying Kent is any better, but if these two AD's want that kind of atmosphere, they have some serious work to do….
Stow Flash, I agree, but I WILL say Kent is better. Sure, there are Kent fans that go overboard in rooting against Akron. But I rarely see anything that is really extraordinary against Akron from the Kent students.
It seems that many of Akron's fans find more pleasure in rooting against Kent than rooting for their own team. This can be witnessed by their sub-3,000 attendance in weekend home basketball games while not playing Kent, and the fact that the only signs or chants you seem to see/hear from Akron student sections are degrading Kent, rather than supporting their own team. It's also humorous to me that they can recite Chris Singletary's BAC, yet can't name some of their own players or alumni (bring up Tarvar or Hollingsworth to most current students and watch their dumb-founded expression; Bring up Trevor Huffman to Kent freshmen and they can tell you about him).
Kent has not been innocent in responding, but before the Romeo Travis/Dru Joyce/Keith Dambrot era, Kent fans seemed to look at Akron like they were any other MAC opponent. They honestly held more contempt for Miami.
I don't know, Realism, I'd like to say that's true, and I have never set foot in the JAR so I can't compare, but the Kent crowd can be pretty raunchy in the MACC to the point that I almost felt sorry for Bosley one game (and that would be hard to muster, so that's how bad it was.) I'm no prude, but there have been many games where I was glad I didn't have small children there!
Stow Flash, you're correct. The fans can get raunchy, have been known to cuss at ref calls, ridicule opposing players, etc. I wasn't there when Bosley was playing (I started going just after), but since then there hasn't seemed to have been any more direct hatred toward Akron than any other opponent. For years there were never signs ridiculing Akron as a school, etc. I remember "Daddy's boy" chants at Hipshur, but those were mainly when he started whining and throwing his Dials-esque temper tantrums.
Akron's students bring more hostility toward Kent's every game than I've seen from Kent students directed at any opponent in basketball or football over the past decade.
realism, you're sounding just like the whiny little bitch that you keep describing dials and linhart as. typical kent hypocrisy.
It's called discussion, pwnd. There is a big difference. But that was a pretty pathetic attempt to criticize someone. You guys are getting as desperate as you are to win a MAC title.
it's called being concise. i predict a kent loss on thursday (thus breaking the streak of 20 win seasons)
Wow, strong words from someone whose team just required two last-second shots to beat a 7-win program…
You could be right. And Buffalo could also go on to win the championship. Or they can stay in their slump and Kent could have a path to the title game. Either way, I don't see Akron being there this year. But this entire conference is up for grabs right now.
a win's a win.
The question of whether or not we ought to do research on something can be an ethical question. ,