After a nine-year hiatus, the Shillelagh Trophy will finally return to Green St. after an exciting football game.
St. Vincent-St. Mary defeated Archbishop Hoban 33-28 Saturday night at the Rubber Bowl. St. V-M earned the traditional award given to the winner of the game by the Ancient Order of Hibernians.
The Summit County parochial rivals battled before a crowd estimated at 10,000. The Fighting Irish win snaps a nine-game winning streak the Knights held, and gives St. V-M their first win over Hoban since 1997.
St. V-M senior Carnell Evans played a major role in the game, scoring five rushing touchdowns, but also fumbling the ball three times.
The Fighting Irish (4-0) stopped a late Kinghts rally (1-3) to preserve the win, the first for coach Dan Boarman in the intense rivalry.
Evans scored three times in second half, but fumbled twice in the first quarter and once in the fourth quarter. The 5-foot-10, 205 pound tailback rushed for 214 yards on 15 carries.
Hoban junior Laymon Carter scored two touchdowns to help the Knights jump out to a 19-0 advantage in the first half.
The Fighting Irish lost three fumbles in the first half to aid the Knights quick start.
Hoban leads the all-time series 17-14 and is 10-2 since the series was renewed in 1996. Knights 14th-year coach is Ralph Orsini is now 10-2 against the Irish.
The Akron Beacon Journal will have a story on this game in Sunday’s newspaper.
KEN LOVE/Akron Beacon Journal
St. Vincent-St. Mary senior running back Carnell Evans celebrates after scoring a touchdown in the Irish’s 33-28 win over Archbishop Hoban.
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i can’t understand how this story got into the paper, the goal of a journalist “should” be to report the facts, and you did report “some” of the facts, but the truth is that Stvm won the game and somehow your still hung up on having a hoban love fest. Perhaps pointing out some of the knights faults as well as pointing out every little mishap of the irish (which you did very well) would have been a little more accurate. The article started off nice, talking about the teams and the game, but the second half just left a bitter taste in my mouth. how about reporting the game in chronological order rather then focusing on the knights’ first half of the game at the end of the article, and having to point out to everyone the knights’ record against stvm to end the article, sure that could have been relevent to point out in the first few sentences, but you just had to do everything you could to make sure that people know that “sure, stvm won, but hoban is still better”. Why not focus on the Irish’s 4-0 season, or the history behind head coach Dan boarman (state championships under John Cistone anyone?), but you don’t even mention his name, although we all know who Ralph Orsini is by the end of the article. Hell , you could have even ended with a nice “both teams played very well” or “The rivalry continues”, or something poetic, use your imagination, but instead all we got to hear about is Carnell’s Evans FIVE touchdowns being underplayed by his 4 fumbles, it looks as if you too Mr.beavon have fumbled on this one, and its no wonder that this article got pushed to the back of the sports section.
P.S Did you and Michael Patrick come from the same graduating class at Archbishop Hoban?
one correction, at the end i said Michael Patrick, i meant Matt Patrick.
HOBAN SUCKS GO STVM!!!!!!!!!!
Mitch,
Your an idiot. How many coaches (Football) have you had there on 10 years? Let me not even start with the BasketBall program. StV StM is nothing more than a public school with a cross, and the ability to “Bring in Urban Talent” opps I mean recruit. I also went there during the “Gteat Frank Stams era” what a joke. I made sure all my kids went to Hoban.
Everything centers sports at Stv. Everything.
now Mr. huh, calling someone an idiot is hardly making a good case for yourself especially coming from an adult. i’m 17 years old and have enough respect to keep myself from reverting to name calling. From what i deciphered from your hard to read response, what your saying has nothing to do with the matter at hand, you didn’t address a single thing about the article, i’m not quite even sure what your point was besides rambling off a bunch of names, i think you were trying to say that all of the good things said about hoban in the article were justified, i don’t disagree with you, i’m not saying hoban played poorly, all i’m saying is that in any article neither team should be glorified (especially in highschool sports), i wouldn’t want stvm being glorified if they lost either, perhaps if you would have actually read my response rather then revert to name calling you wouldn’t have made a fool out of yourself.
Mitch, No offense but your teams not as great as you think. Yes you may have won your last 4 games but Saturday’s game was a touchdown away from us winning. We were ahead in the first half of the game and your team only won by 5 points. That’s not much considering your team was supposed to be stronger and harder to beat. Hoban has/and always will have more class then St. V-M. Beavon, obviously, would rather write about how hard our team worked and how close we were to winning then how your team barely won and acted ridiculous after the game. In the future I would advise your school to act with more dignity and class.
Although i do very much appreciate the polite response, perhaps you have forgotten the last 9 years? i don’t believe i have seen hoban win once with dignity and class. Last year i had a group of Hoban fans scream profanity at me while i was in my car. Also pay attention to the scores of the previous 9 years, especially the last two years, two years ago we went into how many overtimes? and last year was this year’s game with your team on the other side. Perhaps its time to take loss gratefully (because the volleyball team didn’t take it very well either), and i’m not to say that our team is supreme and 10,000 times better, but we took it this time for the first time in a decade, let it go, perhaps you should look at your own behavior before you blame us for a lack of class, and rather then blaming us for your own misgivings, blame the rivalry, because your only feeling what we’ve felt for nine years, get over it!
Dignity and class? Look at Mitch’s response to ‘huh’ and you’ll see plenty of it, apparently much more than a hoban alum and student have from their own responses. This blog isn’t to compare schools and football teams, it is to comment on an article that, in many opinion, was poorly written. For a school that centers EVERYTHING on sports, the irish students sure are doing a pretty good job of avoiding talking up the stvm win/hoban loss and sticking to the subject of JOURNALISM. please, for the sake of all of us, get off your high horse already and grow up.
First of all, I believe both teams played hard and with pride. I also believe this article was very horribly slanted and thats the point that Mitch is trying to make. He never said St. V-M was better in any aspect. These comments should strictly be about the article and not about which team is better. It would be great if we could keep the “friendly” or not so “friendly” rivalry on the field.
I would just like to say I am taking journalism classes at Ohio University and this entire article goes against everything they teach first year journalism students. Did you even attend college, Mr. Beaven? This is the most biased piece of crap I have ever seen. Mitch isn’t saying STVM is all that, he’s saying that the article was about the game and STVM won. This whole article is a huge slap in the face. Yes, both teams had their awful moments but when the clock ran out STVM was on top. Stop with the Hoban pity party and just accept it. For once, in what ten years, STVM beat Hoban. Your supposed to be a journalist, could you please start acting like it.
In response to huh making reference to “urban talent”, I’m glad to hear that you and your racist kids go to hoban . please keep your narrow mind on the other end of town , i hope you’re not catholic because you’re a poor representative of our faith .
I completely agree with Mitch 100%. It was a completely biased artice. Have you ever noticed that when Hoban has won in the past, it has been on the front page of the Sports section? But when St V., a school that has tried for 10 years to win, finally has their moment to shine, they are shoved to the back of the paper? As a writer my school paper, I would never let an article that biased go to print. Reporters are supposed to take both sides and be fair. That is the first thing we learned. And to mention St. V’s fumbles three times in the artice without highlighting their strong points? That is absolutely unnecessary. This writer was oviously a Hoban fan, and didn’t hesitate to let it show through his writing. And in response to St. V’s students acting “ridiculous”-they’re actions were completely harmless. They were just showing they’re support for the team and, honestly, who whouldn’t be excited after defeating your rival after 10 years of loss? It was an exciting night for them! I think certain Hoban students should think about their own actions that night-shouting profanities at St. V. just because they beat them at a football game at which St. V worked incredibly hard and had waited a long tome for! I think that is ridiculous.
also about the class issue, didnt hobans “superfans” get caught drinking the week before and were suspended all week? yeah i would take that into account before you accuse stvm people of acting without class
beaven should just wait..he’ll get whats comin to him. dont worry.
The St.V-M/Hoban football game always reflects the great pride the players, coaches, and students have in their respective schools. The similarities between the schools is part of the reason for the intense rivalry, as well as the school traditions that occur in the week leading up to the game. Emotions always run high for both communities.
When reading any article on sports, news, or opinion, it is worthwhile to try to determine if the author has any inherent bias or agenda. One must also recognize that readers have their own experiences, biases, and beliefs as well.
This makes reading interesting, and provokes thoughtful discussions like those that follow this blog entry. If you think about it – the only true non-partisan reporting that would ever occur is a box score, and that is too boring to read!
The game (as usual) was exciting and a great way to spend an evening enjoying high school football.
In my review of his article, Mr. Beavan did a fair job of reporting the events in the game. There is no reason to be critical of the author or cheapen the reputation of either school in these comments.
In response to everyone: you are way off base and inaccurate with your comments. I did not attend or graduate from either St. Vincent-St. Mary or Archbishop Hoban.
I have many friends that attended both schools and they did not feel the story was biased either way. I reported the facts, plain and simple. If the facts hurt, deal with it.
There were 19 paragraphs and 11 could be considered pro-Irish and the other eight were pro-Knights. The first six paragraphs talk about St. V-M. I assume the last paragraph is the one that irks every St. V-M fan? I was just reporting a fact.
I wrote the story with an early deadline and that is the reason there were no quotes. Also, note I mentioned several of the Fighting Irish’s top defensive players in addition to Carnell Evans.
I was not trying to rip Evans. I thought it was amazing that he scored five touchdowns and fumbled three times. He redeemed himself and had a heck of a game.
Tim Rogers from the Cleveland Plain Dealer wrote a game story that was fair for both sides, just like I did.
The PD’s headline seems somewhat anti-Irish. Take a look at their story on cleveland.com.
There is no bias against St. V-M at the Beacon. We covered LeBron James for four years in high school and he was on the front page a lot. We cover St. V-M in a variety of sports, just like we do every other high school.
Here are some answers to a few of your questions:
I can’t control where a story is placed in the newspaper.
I did graduate from the University of Akron with a communications degree. I have written for the Beacon for three years and wrote for the UA school paper for two years.
I have covered a variety of high school and college sports. I have covered St. V-M alums Romeo Travis and Dru Joyce and know them. Neither think I am biased against their school.
Irish fans you will be happy to know a story with Dan Boarman’s thoughts will be published Thursday and we are running a story about Travis and Joyce as they enter their professional careers soon.
P.S. By the way, the last comment was very mature. Way to be. Quit complaining on a blog and get out and enjoy the nice weather. Your team won, enjoy and celebrate.
The response from “St. V-M Alum” was accurate, fair and mature. I was referring to the threat from “ok whatever” as immature.
its a game… I really don’t know any one that was on the field that played in the game 9 years in a row…. or more then 4.. hell I don’t think any one on either side of the ball have played in that game more then 3 times… the fans didn’t win crap in the past how many years that game has been played.. The team did, not the coach’s the teams that played and left all they had on the field. so with that said if were talking about who really has the better football program with tradition hands down its stvm… yeah Hoban made the play-offs 8 years in a row.. But I still don’t see a championship banner hanging any were in that school. stvm has 4 and St. Mary’s has 1 so that makes 5? 4+1=5 right?
Who cares 10,000 people or not that game was won by a team that wanted it more not the people in the stands games are won Monday to Thursday not Friday nights (well Saturdays)
Well i have to thank you Mr. Beaven for at least defending your work. i’m glad for the follow up articles the beacon has planned, but you have to take into consideration where a lot of us stvm fans are coming from. After losing for 9 years, we expected something a little more celebratory, and on the front page! i know none of that is your fault, and i apologize if my comments appeared harsh, but in my opinion the article didn’t do it for me. I know your just doing your job and no one can fault you for that. It took a good amount of class to respond to all the hate in a civil manner haha, now i’m going out to enjoy the weather.
Am I wrong, but did I not see David Lee Morgan at the game? It may very well not have been him, though.
Bring back Milan Zban or Dick Shippy.
Bill Lilley knows how to reach them.
I think what people here are tryin to say is that when they woke up on sunday morning and looked at the front cover n saw nothing and had to open up about 7 pages and see some average story written about their faults and a couple strong points and 8 paragraphs of hobans strong and all their other victories, it was upsetting. since most of us were little kids we would go to these games and watch st.vm lose such a tough game every year and now we finally won, we got excited. being on the field n cheering after the game is something we had to watch for 9 years. we didnt rub it in your faces or anything, we didnt even say a word to hobans team. both teams and schools are exellent choices. and for the comment that was posted saying st.vm is a public school with a cross is a joke and i would know after going to a public school for 8 years. st.vm is the closest most spiritual community you will find. the support and hard work that goes on in tht school is incredible and i wouldn’t trade that school for anything. when it came down to my choice of high school i turned hoban down imediatly. i have never met more cocky, ignorent people in my life. when you ask a st.vm administrator or staff member where is the best choice out of the akron catholic schools, they say you cant go wrong, yet when i asked hoban they imediatly started to slam every other school around.. people forget that they both are out there for the same purpose, catholic education.
so to finish it off, both teams played out standing. No other team or school gets to play in something like this. the pressure is insane. and yes st.vm finally won so let them celebrate and go crazy, we earned it. and let them be mad about this article because it was a major let down.
Anyone who is still complaining needs to look at the entire picture. That means he or she needs to realize that the St. Vincent-St. Mary football team will be the lead item in our football notebook for the second consecutive Thursday.
Prior to St. Vincent-St. Mary’s win over Archbishop Hoban, we ran a story about the success of the Irish defense. If you did not see that story and want to read it, click here.
The game story did not have quotes in it because of a tight Saturday deadline that would not allow time for interviews (this is a part of the newspaper business that the public usually doesn’t understand and reporters have no control over). Therefore, all along we planned to run a long notebook item about the game between the Irish and the Knights. Look for it in Thursday’s sports section.
Also, I think anyone who thought the game story was too negative toward St. Vincent-St. Mary, missed the point. Some of the complaints on this blog have requested that the facts were reported. Here is a fact: Carnell Evans fumbled three times. Here is another fact: Carnell Evans scored five touchdowns. The point of mentioning that Evans fumbled three times was to show he overcame adversity to score five times, including the game-winning touchdown. I’ve talked to Evans before. He’s a great player, and I think he realizes that the way in which he earned redemption during one of the most important games of his life, was amazing and worth documenting.
All that aside, I appreciate your feedback whether I agree with it or not. User comments are what makes a blog unique.
Nate Ulrich = the NEXT Terry Pluto.
Take that to the bank!
Just thought i’d note, to not be misinterpreted as a hater, i really enjoyed the article in today’s paper
i second that! nice improvement from the last…
third. plus there was a highlight on carnell in the top left of the “notebook.” that was a positive.
unfortunately, if you look at the article, you see that the word “fumble” in its various forms 3 times. it may have seemed that beaven put too much emphasis on that. maybe once would have been sufficient, but its not up to me.
the breaking of the streak was mentioned twice, though that was probably enough. keep in mind that this is only a 200-ish word article and he can only do so much. people involved in the rivalry are bound to look at the article in their own ways to make it seem biased and find ways to convince others of this. its just natural.
there was a pro-irish article today written by beaven himself (along with nate ulrich, who seems to have made an appearance). if you havent gotten a chance to read it yet, i would suggest you do.
St V has more college droupouts than Akron Firestone. Firestone is much better in academics than St V by a long shot.