Comments on: No room on roster for Marte

By: BD Palmer

BD Palmer — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:06:41 +0000

The Red Sox weren’t wrong about him, they never wanted him in the first place. The only reason they made the trade with Atlanta to get him was because they wanted Crisp from us and knew we were hot for Marte. Luckily Shapiro was smart enough to get Shoppach thrown in.

By: howard

howard — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:34:31 +0000

Maybe the Browns could use Marte somewhere. They sure have a lot of holes to fill.

By: btl05

btl05 — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:02:52 +0000

I loved the Crisp-Marte trade when it happened. Shapiro took some grief over letting a fan fave go but Crisp at his best is still a 4th OF. But as others hint here, the Indians screw it up by never giving him a legit shot. This is the hidden danger of conning yourself into thinking your club is a contender. Makes it too easy to rest your hopes on the Delluccis and Blakes while being too impatient with the Martes. Very bad management. In recent years the Indians have taken the same foolish, short sighted measures that the Royals were once known for. KC has figured it out, but Cleveland has not.

At what point does Shapiro just get over himself and run this team like a rebuilding club should be run?

BTL

By: Canton Terrier

Canton Terrier — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 01:30:09 +0000

I don’t disagree with letting Marte go, but I do disagree with letting him walk before management knows anything about him. By sticking with Casey Blake at third — rather than use him in the utility role he handles so well — Tribe management missed the chance to properly evaluate Marte over an extended period.

I never liked him as much as others did; that’s not the point. The point is that Marte will walk away before we got to know enough about how he’d perform in long-term game conditions. That’s mismanagement.

By: dwhit

dwhit — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:00:34 +0000

Say what you will about Coco Crisp but he didn’t really pan out for the Red Sox either. And don’t forget we received Kelly Shoppach in the Marte/Crisp deal, meaning this is one transaction that should probably go in Shapiro’s “hit” column.

By: nuntukamen

nuntukamen — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:22:54 +0000

while its true someone else may take a chance on marte, no one is going to give us a coco crisp for him…total waste of endeavor

we wish him well, hope he becomes a 20 year man, but there was never one single stat in his prior professional history to make anyone think he would hit for average and/or power on the level needed to make that trade work…potential is in the eye of the beholder

shapiro can’t be perfect, and isn’t expected to be; win some, lose some…his overall percentages are a heckuva lot more impressive than marte’s

By: dwhit

dwhit — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:00:37 +0000

Jonas —

Oh, a joke? I get jokes!

Sorry, must have been reading too much of the PD and ABJ Browns coverage to recognize sarcasm

And this is not at all the same as letting Phillips walk.

By: Tribey

Tribey — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:53:53 +0000

I agree that Marte should be let go. Just like I agreed way back when that Brandon Phillips should be let go (.206 in 400+ at bats). This team is trying to win now and needs guys who can handle the pressue to perform.

My guess is Marte will get picked up and go on to hit 20+ homers this season for a no-pressue non-contender (just like Phillips does) and all of Indian fandom will demand blood from the front office for letting another slip away.

By: Dan

Dan — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:29:53 +0000

When you play 80 games and you’re barely hitting .200 you need to go back to the minors or find another job. That’s almost half a season and a third baseman is supposed to be a power hitter. Marte had plenty of chances to prove himself over the last three years and didn’t make it. See you later.

By: Jonas Fortune

Jonas Fortune — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 18:55:05 +0000

dwhit,

It was a bit of dry sarcasm.

Although he didn’t perform well in Cleveland — which for right now he is still in Indian; teams will be interested when he is available. Players with the tools he has aren’t easily disposed of. Plenty of teams will be willing to take the chance.