Cleveland Browns Draft Day: I'm On the Clock
Posted April 28th, 2007 by George Thomas
Pure elation. That's the only way to describe the fans here when it was announced that the Browns moved up to acquire Brady Quinn.
G.M. Phil Savage had a rep as being a risk taker when he arrived in Cleveland. Sorry, but I hadn't seen much of that - until today. Quinn at No. 3 when there are more pressing needs? No thanks. Quinn at No. 22 by giving up next year's first round pick and this year's second rounder which was at 36. I'll take a flyer on that. And allow me to correct myself from an earlier post - the Browns would have had to leap frog Tampa Bay and Detroit.
For now, I"m outta here and will finish the first round from home. They're about to kick us out of the stadium.
The Jaguars actually make a pick and it's home state guy Reggie Nelson, a safety out of Florida.
The NFL Network FINALLY reports that the Browns are trying to trade up, packaging picks to get Quinn. They make it seem like the likelihood of a trade is possible.
The N.Y. Giants go for Texas CB Aaron Ross, given the way they lost games in a couple of instances last year, that can only help given his pedigree.
The NFL Network shills for one of its sponsors, Sprint, during the middle of commentary on the draft. That's a wee bit tacky.
Let's play "what if". So what if the Browns can't move up and Brady Quinn doesn't get picked in the first round? That leaves an interesting scenario out there. At the top of the second round there's Oakland and they sure as heck don't need a QB after drafting JaMarcus Russell.
But they could call the Browns looking to make a deal and if the Browns are that interested in Quinn they might be listening. Why? Because the Detroit Lions sit there with the 34th pick over all just ahead of them. Do you seriously believe they wouldn't consider taking Quinn given the fact that their current starting QB is Jon Kitna? It's something to think about.
The Titans select safety Michael Griffin out of Texas. Yawn.
The Bengals needed a CB and they got one in Leon Hall. He's from Michigan. Just gives Browns fans another reason to detest the Bengals.
The Bengals are making their choice. Gee, do you think they need to pick an altarboy? I do.
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It' s 11:45 and I'm set up here in the pressbox. I've been hearing certain things from media types that I know who suspect Golden Domer (Notre Dame) fans in the area won't get their wish and get to see Brady Quinn here. I've heard it's Wisconsin's Joe Thomas a practical pick that could solidify the Browns offensive line for a decade. Is it a gamble? Heck yes. But so is drafting Quinn, who possesses happy feet and an inability to show up in big games. At best this is all a crapshoot. Enjoy.
Oakland: The Oakland Raiders take JaMarcus Russell surprising no one. He's an Al Davis type of bombs-away QB for the vertical game he so loves. Here's hoping Al's got a way to bolster that O-line because Russell will need it. Detroit is on the clock will likely take Calvin Johnson or, possibly, entertainn the idea of a trade from Tampa Bay?
During this 15 minutes it's borderline painful to watch Steve Mariucci on the NFL Network talk about the Butch Davis years here and some of the lame brained draft picks while here. Gerard "Small Change" Warren anyone?
Strategery in play as ESPN talks about how the Bucs could draft Gaines Adams and trade him to the Lions for Johnson. Apparently the Lions want the Bucs two second round draft picks. That may be too much to give up - Tampa Bay has too many holes.
Johnson looks happy going to Motown. We shall see. ESPN doesn't expect the Lions to hold on to him.
The Browns are on the clock and I'm heading back to the club level to gauge reaction at the party.
And the pick is, as you all know by now, left tackle Joe Thomas. It's about damned time they seriously addressed this offensive line. Thomas could be an imposing presence on the line and a mainstay for years.
The Browns may have won the P.R. battle with this choice. Before the team made their pick, anytime Quinn's face showed up on TV, there were resounding boos. When they announced Thomas' name, universal cheers erupted. Cheers, high fives and pats on the back. It's difficult to tell how many were beer induced, but from down here, they're happy in Brownstown. Give Phil Savage credit. He snookered many in the media until the last minute and two of the best known draft gurus out there - Mel Kiper Jr. and Mike Mayock.
Also consider that it also might be a lukewarm endorsement of Charlie Frye. Perhaps they recognized that no one could be expected to function with any degree of efficiency behind the sieve known as the Browns O-line. Frye fans should be happy at this point.
With respect to broadcasting, the NFL Network wins this one because they apparently have the ability to eventually talk to Thomas from the boat he's fishing from with his father on Lake Michigan. I like the fact that he isn't wrapped up with the glitz and glamour here. It shows that his head is on straight and that although football is a game, it's also a business and a job. His blue-collar mentality should work well in this area.
The Bucs choose Gaines Adams. Think they're not talking trade with DayTwoi?
The Arizona Cardinals select Levi Brown. The consensus on both networks is that the No. 5 pick is too high to reach for him. This first round is going briskly. My guess would be because there was little movement trade-wise and with respect to surprises at the top of the draft.
Washington takes LaRon Landry. It's a need. They're done for the day, however, because for some inexplicable reason they loved to trade draft picks for veteran players who ultimately don't mesh with them. The Minnesota Vikings are on the clock and they are looking at Oklahoma's Adrian Peterson, but there has been talk of some interest in Brady Quinn.
As many of you know the Vikes went with Petersen. Not a huge surprise there. The Atlanta Falcons chose to bolster a weak defense with the addition of DE Jamaal Anderson out of Arkansas.
The first true surprise of the draft comes courtesy of Miami Dolphins who select the OSU Buckeyes' own Ted Ginn Jr. WOW!! HUGE surprise there because almost everyone projected him to fall out of the Top 10. What's hilarious is watching and listening to ESPN's Steve Young have a heart attack over th Dolphins' selection. You'd think that Young owned the team as he talks of the legacy of Dan Marino and such.
That pick says a couple things to me: Daunte Culpepper's rehab may be further along than anyone may think and new Fish Coach Cam Cameron, who comes from the offensive side of the ball, likes what he sees. In Culpepper he has a bombadier and Ted Ginn Jr.'s 4.3 speed loosen defenses. Some question his route running skills and many have said that his teammate Anthony Gonzalez has better hands, but there's little denying he can be lightning in a bottle.
Or the Fish could be on the verge of getting Trent Green, a QB who doesn't have a canon for an arm, but it's not a pop gun either and before he succumbed to injury with the St. Louis Rams and losing his job, was used to working with speedy receivers. We shall see.
Remembering what happened with Aaron Rodgers of Green Bay a couple of years ago, NFL Commish Roger Goodell invites him into a private area to await his selection, reports ESPN. It's a classy move on his part. Sort of nullifies that ridiculous fine of Brian Urlacher a couple weeks back.
Where were we? Marshawn Lynch goes to the Buffalo Bills. Patrick Willis to the 49ers, Adam Carriker from Nebraska to the Rams. Carolina swaps with the Jets who take Darrelle Revis a CB out of Pitt.
Bringing us to the Stillers. Did anyone truly believe they'd not try to fill the shoes left when they let Joey Porter get away in free agency? Just another outside linebacker to try to terrorize Browns QBs.
Young is still extolling the virtues of Brady Quinn and Chris Mortensen reports the Browns attempting to move up to get Quinn. I don't hear any of this on the NFL Network. It's possible that I've missed some nugget of it, but it's not there. You see the differences in the respective broadcasts through the personnel on the screen. After 28 years, ESPN has built trust - enough to get a story like that.
The Pack takes Justin Harrell a DT out of Tennessee. No, it' s not as if they could have used some offensive help for Brett Farvrrree, especially after Ahman Green vacated Wisconsin.
Jamie Dukes of the NFL Network hits on a very valid point when it comes to Brady Quinn's freefall - the lwoer he goes in the first round, the better the team he plays for next season. However, he also points out the loss in dead presidents that he will take. That's got to be hard to swallow as well.
By the way, Quinn to the Jaguars makes sense given the fact that the team doesn't appear to be particularly enamored of Byron Leftwich, their current signal caller.
Jacksonville has a strategy: trade down and get as many picks as you can.
As a quick aside, I actually found a couple folks wearing Miami Dolphin gear here and they were far from happy with the selection of Teddy Ginn Jr.
Other thoughts on Quinn: Should he fall to the second round, is that necessarily a bad thing? It wasn't for another Golden Dome QB named Joe Montana who was taken in the third round, but ended up winning four Super Bowls and being named the game's MVP three times. Whoever gets him will end up with a QB with an itch to prove everyone wrong.




April 28th, 2007 at 9:54 am
I am not happy and there were a lot of boos on TV. Thomas isn't that much better than other linemen in this draft. Peterson and Quin were much better than the next level. Peterson may well be the next LT2 and we have another lineman woth a bad knee. Way to go. Yeah
April 28th, 2007 at 10:05 am
I don't get where you think Thomas has a bum knee. He ripped an anterior cruciate ligament. With ACL surgery, the knee is often stronger than before according to doctors.
April 28th, 2007 at 10:53 am
I've generally heard that you can get back to where you were pre-injury at best so I am not sure about your "stronger than before" claim. Neither of us are doctors, so it probably isn't worth arguing. Aren't you concerned about his low reps at the combine, that big ten linemen in general did not seem to fair well against quick defensive ends and tackles, and that he does have an injury history (which seemed to be a big issue for Peterson, his injuries being different and somewhat freak). Do you really think he is so much better than a second round lineman that could have been signed much cheaper?
April 28th, 2007 at 11:07 am
I think I can only go by ratings and Joe Thomas is a Top 5 rated player. Will he pan out? Who knows. This is ALL a crapshoot. What I do know is that the Browns recent moves to bolster the line and this position in particular have gone bust. As for the "stronger than before" claim, it' s documented.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:13 am
I like the pick okay but can't say his fishing trip impresses me … he's gotten a lot more attention with that than he would have gotten sitting with the audience in New York.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:13 am
Fair enough..I concede on the knee recovery issue. Being a Browns fans makes one queesy when it comes to linemen (or any player) and knees. Think the Browns might try to get back in teh 1st round for Quinn now that he has fallen or take a QB (Stanton,Beck, etc), RB(Bush Hunt), or CB in the second?
April 28th, 2007 at 11:16 am
Larry, I've missed you.
April 28th, 2007 at 1:32 pm
Cwags, you happy now?
April 28th, 2007 at 3:20 pm
I'm pretty happy George. Thanks for taking comments.