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It's OK for someone else to get hurt though

November 19, 2009

Josh Cribbs' agent said he was furious that the Browns had Cribbs in the game for the last play against Baltimore.
How's that again?
Cribbs is a football player, and he plays when there are plays called for him.
Besides, if Cribbs is not on the field someone else has to take his place (the Browns only put [...]

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No reason to doubt Quinn

November 19, 2009

Looking at the replay of Brady Quinn's hit on Terrell Suggs, I cut him a little slack (headline got ya, didn't it?). But not a lot. Quinn appeared to dive at the knees of Suggs for no apparent reason, but Chris Carr was returning the interception right behind Suggs. So there was reason … especially [...]

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Oh by the way …

November 19, 2009

Lost amidst all the this and that about the Browns is the fact that they lost their MVP Wednesday when punter Dave Zastudil was placed on injured reserve.
How's this team supposed to compete in Detroit now?
Well … I guess this gives Eric Mangini a built-in excuse.

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The hook-and-lateral that wasn't … or was it?

November 19, 2009

Well  … the players are saying that the Browns coaches did not call the last play in the loss to Baltimore the other night. The one that sent Josh Cribbs to the hospital. They said the call came on the field, with Brady Quinn and Cribbs creating something on the fly.
Always good to know that [...]

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First and 10: The worst just keep getting worse

November 17, 2009

1)      I'm thinking that right now the Lions ought to be favored by nine.
2)      Imagine that. The Browns a more-than-deserving near-double digit underdog to a team that has one win since the start of the 2009 season. Say this for the Browns: They've earned it.
3)      For the second game in a row, the Browns opponent [...]

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Brandon McDonald "tweets" that he's counting down the season

November 17, 2009

Can Browns fans tolerate seven more weeks of this kind of "professional" football?
It might seem that Brandon McDonald can't.
Below is a screen shot sent to me this afternoon of McDonald's Twitter page (he goes by the Twitter name macmane22).
Note the second post: "7 games left .. Da countdown has begun."
Interpret it as you will.
Players are [...]

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Some comments on the Cribbs injury and Quinn's hit on Suggs

November 17, 2009

From the Ravens, as reported by the AP (tho many were present in the locker room when the statements were made):
Ray Lewis on whether Quinn's hit on Terrell Suggs was a cheap shot: "Heck yeah, it was a cheap shot When you're running down and you're looking at the quarterback going at somebody's knees who [...]

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Cribbs hurt on last play of Browns loss; Quinn's cheap shot sidelines Suggs

November 17, 2009

The Browns looked woeful again in losing to Baltimore. Still think the coach deserves another year?
But … the game ended bizarrely, with Josh Cribbs on the ground after having been run into by Dwan Edwards on one of those goofy lateral plays.
This hit did not appear intentional. Edwards was running to get into the play [...]

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Browns vs. Ravens live …

November 16, 2009

First quarter: Scoreless as Ravens botch scoring chance
I usually do a live blog on these games, but newspaper deadlines will make that difficult tonight. … So I'll try to keep up as best I can, until the job requirement for the paper takes precedence. … Third down and Browns run Wildcat. Cribbs flips to Mohamed [...]

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Another interesting letter

November 12, 2009

Joe Read, formerly from Stow, sent this e-mail. I re-print it with his permission:
Pat, I think your pal Clark (Judge) did a good job with this (CBSSports.com) interview but the duality of Mangini is incredible.  The local press conferences are drowned out by crickets and yawns as the non-info is delivered in boilerplate by the coach.  [...]

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Someone else weighs in on Mangini

November 12, 2009

Just to prove I'm not the only person beating up on Mangini, I offer three takes from profootballtalk.com:
Mike Florio writes that naming Brady Quinn the starter is "roughly as relevant to the team's fortunes as the question of whether the Browns will wear white pants or brown ones."
Here, Florio says that Mangini is "lying or [...]

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Jamal Lewis lets go

November 12, 2009

I highlight and link Marla Ridenour's story on Jamal Lewis today.
Lewis lets out some more steam about the Browns and their coach.
These words are from a veteran professional respected by everybody in the league.

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Another take on Brady Quinn …

November 12, 2009

Writes Pete Prisco of CBSSports.com of Brady Quinn: He "didn't make the right reads when he was starting. If he doesn't do that, his arm can't compensate. He's then just a guy, on his way to bust-ville."

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Mangini opens up to national media

November 11, 2009

Eric Mangini opened up with Clark Judge of CBSSports.com in a way he has not opened up with any local reporter since he's been hired. It's an interesting interview, a good interview, with a lot of insights and information.
Judge writes: 'What I discovered is that virtually everything I read, heard and believed about the guy [...]

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An interesting thought from a reader

November 10, 2009

This e-mail from Michael Lampers came thorugh the system the other day. It read:
Dear Pat,
Isn't this move to get Mike Holmgren and turn it all over to him simply more of the same from Randy Lerner?  I don't care what his pedigree is.  If Holmgren is hired without the owner conducting any other interviews (AGAIN!!), [...]

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First and 10: Some ideas for a better second half

November 10, 2009

Here are 10 suggestions for the Cleveland Browns as they head to the second half of the season:
1)      Run the ball. The one thing the offense did kind of, sort of well the first half was run the ball. Jerome Harrison and Jamal Lewis each had 100-yard games. There have been some good runs. This [...]

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Time for Kokinis, Browns to agree and part ways

November 9, 2009

George Kokinis is no longer with the Browns. That much we know.
But the things that have leaked out about him are a tad distasteful. ESPN.com reported Sunday that the Browns wanted Kokinis to go to counseling because they felt he was becoming so distant. FOX's Jay Glazer said the team took Kokinis' cell phone so [...]

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There's no argument against Holmgren; it just has to happen

November 9, 2009

Mike Holmgren? Sure. Absolutely.
But does he want to?
Ron Wolf? Great, bring him.
But why would he do the Browns routine again?
Rich McKay?
They didn't hire him last January, so why would he now?
Ernie Accorsi?
If he's willing to leave retirement.
Those are the four names to hit the air and internet waves Sunday, as the Browns rumor mill heated [...]

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For your perusal

November 8, 2009

More thoughts from moi on the Browns — in Sunday's Beacon Journal.

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An agent's tale

November 8, 2009

More insight into George Kokinis, his role, and the way things operated with him with the Browns (thanks to clevelandreboot.com for highlighting the link).

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We interrupt today's entertainment …

November 7, 2009

We interrupt today's entertainment for a special link (thanks to proffootballtalk.com for highlighting it). It's about a journeyman cornerback named Rod Hood, but it has some interesting observations on his experience in Cleveland this training camp. Folks, I'm not making stuff up … people do not like playing for this coach. Among Hood's comments: “I’ve [...]

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More on the Browns pathetic and ridiculous tale

November 5, 2009

SI.com tries to shed some light on the departure of George Kokinis.
Don Banks writes that Kokinis felt marginalized within the Browns front office, lacked anything close to the personnel decision-making authority his contract called for, and was ultimately scape-goated by Mangini when the repeated failures by the Browns (1-7) this season intensified the heat on [...]

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One quick tip

November 5, 2009

I'm off to appear on Bruce Drennan's TV show at 4 p.m., but before I leave I'd thought I'd pass this on:
Tom the furnace guy just walked in and on his way down the steps he said:
"I saw the Browns are getting 16 points against the bye this week.
"Take the bye and give the points."

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The more I think, the more I think it's a real head-scratcher

November 5, 2009

The more I think about Eric Mangini saying he would be included in the hiring of the new General Manager of the Browns, the more puzzling it seems.
Puzzling isn't the right word, actually. Preposterous is the right word. Preposterous. That's it.
Preposterous because somebody is delusional here.
Mangini might be delusional to think even a teeny, tiny [...]

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The situation in Berea

November 5, 2009

It's hard to argue many of Jim Ingraham's points in this column. The situation in Berea is a mess that seems to get worse by the day.

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