So Tiger Woods has come clean about "transgressions" regarding his marriage.
OK then, I think we know what that means.
Here's my question, and I welcome comments: Do we deserve to know this?
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So Tiger Woods has come clean about "transgressions" regarding his marriage.
OK then, I think we know what that means.
Here's my question, and I welcome comments: Do we deserve to know this?
i'm too busy keeping my wife from wanting to smack me around to notice or care what tiger, his hoochies and his wife are doing.
Yep — just checked: still have a mind-numbing job and nothing about my life changed with the knowledge that Tiger committed some transgressions.
I have a feeling the same holds true with him after I won $10 on the Mega Millions this morning. I hope I didn't let him, or almost-naked Grady, or anyone else down. If so, I offer up my apologies. It was not my intention and I hope that America, Tiger, and Grady's GF's email account can forgive me.
Let me know if I need to work up some tears…
He got caught playing a couple extra holes after the tournament, what's wrong with that?
Nope. I could care less, and I have nothing but contempt for people who believe we have a right to know anything at all about this. "Public figure" does not equal "punching bag." Anyone who still thinks fame makes a person inherently a role model was out of date 20 years ago when Charles Barkley was rightly telling people that he was "no role model." In this age of internet/reality fame whores, putting the role model tag on anyone simply because they are famous is beyond insane. It's self destructive.
The idea of athletes as role models is a holdover from the days when the media actually participated in covering up athlete's transgressions, often because the reporters were whoring and boozing right alongside the guys they covered. Sports figures were no more saintly than they are today (perhaps even a lot less so), but newspapers back then had no problem printing the fiction that they were, which led to their always undeserved lionization as people instead of just as athletes.
Never been a huge fan of Tiger the person, as opposed to Tiger the otherworldly golfer, but I wouldn't blame him for packing up his clubs and going home. Honestly, we have a greater need for him than he has for us. Whether you are a network or newspaper that depends on Tiger for all the add dollars he brings in, or a fan who wouldn't enjoy watching golf each week half as much without his playing, you would get what you deserve if he decided to stay home and count his money for the rest of his life. He could never play again and evade this kind of ridiculous scrutiny, and it would serve all of us right.
Tough question in this day and age, Pat. Think of the millions upon millions of $ that are made by websites like TMZ, and magazines like US Weekly: not movies, not sports, but GOSSIP is the #1 escape for people (IMO).
So, to answer your question, more specifically the word "deserve": heck no, I could care less either way. But I bet that there are many out there that think that they do deserve it, since they as so wrapped up in everyone else's lives but their own.
This is all just a big misunderstanding.
Tiger asked Elin is he could play a round, and she said go ahead.
Sports writer Dave Zirin says Woods deserves scrutiny, but not for this, but for his involvement with Chevron and Dubai. He talks about it in the video below. More can be found at
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dave-zirin/tiger-woods-deserves-your_b_374029.html
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Its his business, not ours. Just enjoy the greatest golfer ever …on the golf course.
wetzel's column at yahoo is pretty spot on.
http://sports.yahoo.com/golf/pga/news?slug=dw-tiger120209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
It's far too easy to write that his wife wouldn't clean his balls, shaft and wood, so Tiger felt compelled to go out and get himself some Curtis Strange. Poor taste. So I won't write it.
If only Tiger could afford some of those Grady Sizemore coffee cups, he wouldn't be in this mess.
Tiger drove into a fire hydrant and a tree. He couldn't decide between a wood and an iron.
What's the difference between a car and a golf ball? Tiger can drive a golf ball 400 yards.
Not a shock that Tiger got into this wreck; he never could drive it straight.
That post from yahoo is despicable. The writer is saying that since it's not a perfect world, and since so many people are into sleaze, that we all must just accept it and dive right in. Basically, all right thinking people should accept the inevitable, grit our teeth, and join in the with the mob.
Similar sentiments were popular in Berlin in 1937.
I particularly wanted to barf when I read this:
"Tiger had the closest thing to a dream life anyone could imagine: untold wealth, a beautiful, healthy family, professional satisfaction and so on.
He got some of it from portraying himself as a model of clean-cut morality."
WTF? He got famous from projecting clean-cut morality? Anyone think the ability to hit a dime on the ground with a golf ball from 300 yards away had anything to do with it?
Please. Tiger Woods has been a recluse for almost his entire career. He ventures out to play golf, do Buick commercials, and hold the occasional golf clinic. So, some sports writer projected his own ideals onto Tiger, then he decides that it's Tiger's responsibility to live up to those ideals. Ideals, I might add, that likely that writer can't live up to himself.
One of these days a rich and powerful athlete is going to hire himself a bevy of detectives and dig up all the dirt in the world on these jackass writers, and, boy, will I be first in line for that book.
If Tiger had been an outre dick-wad from Day One, he'd be just as rich and powerful as he is today. He earned his daily bread thanks to his ability as an athlete, and it had zero to do with any costume of "clean-cut morality." It ain't his fault that stupid people equate athletic ability with moral rectitude. Tiger didn't make people that stupid.
"Similar sentiments were popular in Berlin in 1937." Darn. And I had planned to comment about Tiger's wiener schnitzel.
Now, jokes are another matter, Alan. I'll take all the jokes I can get. Making fun is cool. It's trying to take the moral high ground that is sick.
I particularly like the joke about his wife giving him permission to play a round.
At least Woods is a certifiable horndog. It would be a far worse PR hit if somebody released Tiger's text messages with Jeff Garcia.
miguel, tiger's made bank on being a public figure. his golf earnings don't even touch what he's made as a spokeman (btw, you forgot his big one–nike). wetzel isn't justifying people's interest in tiger's personal life. it just that to reap the benefits of making money off your image you had better be prepared for the day it all comes back around when you screw up.
Alan,
Brings to meaning why Woods' first caddie's name was "Fluff"
I can believe this, not wanting (1) beautiful women, he has to have more…. Come on…. oh, so true of MEN… Beautiful or not, they still need different.
Why did he get Married??? and have Chldren…. He could of just played around and spend his money on him and all… He's so young to be tied down….. Oh, well, he's screwed now…. I hope they didn't sign a Nuptial, she's going to get half, if not…. Good for her…. Take him to the Cleaners…. He's SCUM!!!!!!
Miguel,
That is an interesting thought: one of these athletes will probably call on a private detective to follow a writer, gossip columnist, website developer, etc. That would be hysterical, and maybe one of the only ways to delay this snowball.
I have followed Pat; he likes Guiness. boooooorrrring.
Everyone seems to kind of agree that it's his life and his business (his marriage, his personal morality or whatever word fits) … but then all the humor and all from everyone, too. It's juicy gossip and it could be about a neighbor down any of our streets, except that it wouldn't be on the news.
In America (maybe the whole world, but I don't know) we are fascinated with celebrities — and possibly because it's the gossip we hear about. The Lindbergh kidnapping … somebody gets trapped in a cave or cave-in, which used to happen a lot early in the 20th century) and everyone pays attention and talks about it. I don't think it's entirely bad that we do that as a people, a nation — because it brings people together at least loosely. When Reagan was shot I happened to be driving with my radio off and someone in a car waved me down to find out if it was true (because they had no radio in their car) and a whole bunch of people gathered right there in the street comparing what they knew.
Gossip isn't such a good aspect of that, but I suppose that one could make the argument that it's part of the price of celebrity. In a Jay-walking episode from like 2001, more people knew who Britney Spears was than knew who the President of the United States was! And if Britney has one of her kids on her lap instead of in a car seat, it's national front page news …?
But, don't you wonder if the window was broken before the crash and maybe even helped cause it?
meka leka hi meka hiney ho …. dont care whos tigers ho ……teach your children to be better students not better gossip readers!!!!
I'm not famous but I do have some friends who are. Hanging out with these friends I have seen countless females do just about anything to get their attention or attempt to hook up with them. And yes, I've had women attempt to bribe me with various sexual acts just to meet my friends.
The truth of the matter is that, if you are a famous, sex is there for the taking. No matter what you do, the closer you get to the top, the easier it gets to have whatever you want. And men aren't the only ones who take advantage of their status either.
Fortune and fame are intoxicating. After a while the lines begin to blur, they let their guard down one time and it happens. They get away with it and eventually it happens again. And again. And again.
Am I sorry for Woods or his wife? No way! They both knew what came with the territory when they married. Woods had a how many year relationship going when he met his wife? And when all is said and done, we will find his wife looked the other way because she had all the benefits. She only got mad when the press finally had the proof they needed to prove once and for all that Tiger Woods was a human being and not a robot. She is embarrassed, plain and simple.
Meanwhile it's a one woman scramble for the top. The cocktail waitress from Vegas will make the instant cash with her sleazy tabloid stories. The smart ones who say no comment will write the tell all books with all the juicy details and get the big up front money.
Now Tiger Woods has something in common with Gary Hart, John Edwards, Jimmy Swaggart and Jim Bakker. It's not God and it sure ain't politics.
The fact of the matter is that once one chooses to become a public person, NOTHING is out of bounds. Tiger has made millions off of his celebrity and now comes the realization that both he and his family cannot merely turn off the switch when some dirty laundry enters the picture.
men are scum.just a fact of evolution.been there,done that.