Comments on: First and 12: Somehow that seems appropriate, no?

By: MIKE

MIKE — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:20:36 +0000

Yes,hire a President of Football Operations asap;to come in and bring some direction,to make professional assessments of all facets–coaches,players,scouting department,and to be in control of the next draft. Ownership cannot allow Mangini to precide over our 11 picks next spring. Players picked in the 2nd.round have to be able to contribute: 2 of the 3 from last draft aren't even good enough to dress for the games,and this is a team that is 1-10 ! Those mistakes can't be repeated. Marty,Tony Dungy;someone with a legacy of class and success in this league.

By: Jason Dawg

Jason Dawg — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:58:20 +0000

I hope & pray that Mr. Lerner wakes up & hires a GM with experience & clout! In order to do that, he'll have to offer a kings ransom (which is fine, supposedly he's worth several billion) & agree to give this individual total control over football operations. That includes making the decision on whether Mangini stays or is let go (personally, I hope it's the latter). If he is unwilling to do so, the Browns will only be able to get some no-name who is inexperienced, which will NOT help turn this ship around! In addition, there will be almost NO interest in the Browns for 2010. This includes fan interest, as well as interest from free agents who will be looking to find a new home. Please, Mr. Lerner, hire a REAL GM & lets get this ship turned around!

By: ralph

ralph — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:44:46 +0000

Now that I've finished the post, two other points…

The Robiskie mess defies comprehension — either he's so bad he was drafted four rounds too high, or he said something derogatory about Mangini's momma in training camp.

I thought being picked high in the second round was a reach when it happened, but no way is he this bad. As Belicheck would say "I can only go by what I (saw)" and by that measure this guy played for a top 5 major college program and contributed.

Now, he can't even be trusted to run an 8 yard curl route? On this team?

Lastly, re: Mangini I agree wholeheartedly with everything Alex K. wrote.

The doorknob can't hit him in the ass soon enough for me.

By: ralph

ralph — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:25:08 +0000

"flying reindeer will soon be distributing Clark bars to all autoworkers as they clock in to work."

I'll bet on the flying reindeer first.

Please lose the romantic fascination with Quinn — his Browns jersey pics as a kid, the Notre Dame mystique (which is dying it's own well deserved death) etc.

He's horrible and dropped like a stone in the draft for good reason.

By: Scott

Scott — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 14:13:26 +0000

You don't draft another rookie quarterback. We can't keep trying to put under achieving quarterbacks on the field. You go after a veteran and build around him.
Rebuilding every year is not going to change the Browns. That is stupid think and is exactly why we are as bad as we are.
Also "FIRE" Mangini and the Offensive coordinator. The two are the biggest joke in pro football

By: roadkill

roadkill — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 12:08:03 +0000

me thinks back to the 80s and how Steve Young could not throw his way out of a bath tub in Tampa……change of coaching styles did him pretty good…and that team he went to wasnt chicken feed either…..just saying//////// it could happen..

By: Steve

Steve — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 10:58:58 +0000

If the browns do not draft a quarterback that can pass we will have another season of inconsistant football like this years mess.Quinn is not throwing like a pro football quarterback. Inconsistant passing isnt a sign of inexperience its a sign of ian inconsistant quarterback.An inexperienced quarterback gets better as the season goes on.

By: WalterSobchak

WalterSobchak — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:12:06 +0000

I don't understand how the Plain Dealer allows Pluto to write that religious column.

By: David

David — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:11:52 +0000

Can we just get someone in here, who doesn't think they know more than the rest of the league and spend every draft for the past 10 years out guessing themselves! Btw, they all seem to be first timers who know everything. Get a proven football man in here who won't let players like Brian Cushing slip by. This is getting old.

By: WalterSobchak

WalterSobchak — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 04:10:34 +0000

I went to that PFF site and tried to punch in players but only got an "invalid options" message