Comments on: Hard to imagine the Browns season being worse

By: alan t.

alan t. — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:27:04 +0000

The 60s? How 'bout the 50s. And the 40s. And the 30s.

Oh, and if you're the President of SteelerNation, then you should at least spell the name of the guy correctly. It was Noll. Not Knoll. Noll. That's like the head of the American Nazi Party spelling the guy's name as Hatler. Which leads me to believe I was right. A kid in his 20s.

Bottom line, why are you even posting here? Akron isn't Pittsburgh, pal.

By: terje

terje — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:00:53 +0000

the difference in this case is that those "loud mouth players" are the leaders of the jets team. it's hardly a cop out when the fact is that mangini LOST HIS JOB during a winning season. and this wasn't marty's 14-2. tannenbaum knew that mangini was the WRONG GUY FOR THE JOB.

By: SteelerNation

SteelerNation — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:36:37 +0000

You only missed by about thirty years, skippy. I remember very well how "bad" the steelers were in the 60's prior to hiring a guy by the name of Knoll and drafting a defensive tackle by the name of Greene.

terje, nice cop out…you see, every team has its loud mouth players who dislike everything about the team, coaches, fans, etc. (Webster's dictionary has pictures of BE and KW2 next to its definition for this).

By: alan t.

alan t. — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:55:10 +0000

Scott, give it a year, and then you can post about the three cellar dwellers in Cleveland sports, all with the bright neon lights of sleazeball Gilbert's casino glistening in the background like pornographic Hanukkah decorations. Whatta town. I'd say I'm ashamed of being born there, but they've even torn down and blew up my downtown Mount Sinai. It would seem like overkill to say it. I wonder what's there now. Probably a decaying parking lot and a couple of crack houses.

By: terje

terje — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:37:27 +0000

"Please provide proof of your assertion of a "complete player revolt" in NY leading to mangini's firing."

it's all out there for you to find. since you don't know about this i'm just going to assume you know next to nothing about just about everything.

By: Scott

Scott — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:21:19 +0000

This team is a joke. The laughing stock of the NFL.
We have absolutley no talent. Maybe 4 or 5 guys on this whole team that would start for a contender.
The coaching stinks as bad as the players. There is no professional style of play calling at all on this team.
Now we have two cellar dwellars in Cleveland sports. The Browns and the Indians.

By: alan t.

alan t. — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:05:01 +0000

Hey, "SteelerNation," I realize you're a kid in your 20s, if that, but the fact of the matter is your precious franchise was an absolute atrocity for decades. That's decades. And that's under the same Family ownership. Give this version of the Browns a few decades more than the one decade they've had to stink to date, and then get back to me and we can have a semi-meaningful discussion about which franchise actually stunk more.

By: SteelerNation

SteelerNation — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 21:20:47 +0000

Please provide proof of your assertion of a "complete player revolt" in NY leading to mangini's firing.

Actually, no, you can't say the same thing about the Steelers hiring Tomlin. You see, GOOD teams, with GOOD ownership, GOOD players, and winning traditions don't "fire" coaches….much like the Browns have done over the past 10 years. Tomlin got the best of both worlds…a championship franchise AND a head coaching gig…much like Cowher did.

BTW, you were pimping McDaniel ( dude, you obviously know very little about the browns. did you know the browns could have had josh mcdaniel? an unknown is better than mangini—a known failure.) not I. You asserted that McDaniel would have been a better selection than Mangini, not I. So why do you believe that? Because of what he has done in Denver w/ the Broncos? Like I said, Cleveland and Denver are worlds apart on the talent/roster level from Denver. You think McDaniels would have kept KW2 and Edwards (or Anderson, or Brady, or anyone else)? Cleveland fans were deluded into thinking that there was actually "talent" in cleveland…NOT!

By: terje

terje — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:17:22 +0000

"So…what exactly was it that indicated at the time Lerner was interviewing coaching candidates that indicated that McDaniel would make a great HC? Or is your hind-sight of half a football season great enough to make that determination? Or was it the similarities in the Broncos and Browns' rosters?"

you could say the same thing about the steelers hiring of mike tomlin since the obvious choices at the time seemed to be russ grimm or ken whisenhunt. but since you're a steelers fan you know that….right?

By: terje

terje — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:08:56 +0000

normally i refrain from too many personal attacks but since you're a steelers fan it's justified.

"Mangini's "culture" did not get him fired in NY. It was the failure of an injured QB to get them into the playoffs that got Mangini fired in NY. Mangini became a scapegoat for the failed Favre experiment in NY."

mangini's decision to take over the offensive playcalling, continuing to play an injured favre and a complete player revolt got him fired in new york. of course you don't know any of that because of appalachian inbreeding that affects most steeler fans.