Comments on: The proof is in the numbers

By: Tbomb

Tbomb — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:37:09 +0000

Dandy, Dandy makes Art Modell look handy…

By: Tbomb

Tbomb — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:44:33 +0000

Dandy, Dandy with a spine of cotton candy….

By: terje

terje — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:54:00 +0000

drew, i understand and agree about the disadvantage that the browns had when starting the franchise but that isn't really a factor after a decade of several top five and higher draft picks.

your point about the owner and the coaches is the true problem.

By: drew

drew — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:30:06 +0000

Terje,
I am not saying that the expansion debacle is solely responsible for what is transpiring 11 years later; I am merely pointing out that this franchise was not given equal footing as other expansion teams, even before the 1st building block was put into place.
Add in an owner that gets horrible advice and makes horrible decisions, and head coaches that have no NFL head-coaching experience: ladies and gentlemen, your Cleveland Browns!

By: Elizabeth

Elizabeth — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 17:07:01 +0000

Terje: you forgot "grind" and "separate." I'm sure Mark got custody of those when he canned Wedge, he can pass them over

By: terje

terje — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:46:08 +0000

larry, you're full of excuses for mangini but you offer no tangible evidence that supports keeping him. i'm begging you and all mangini lovers—give me just ONE thing about mangini that supports the assertion that he should be kept on as browns head coach without using meaningless terms like "process" and "discipline".

By: larry d.

larry d. — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:41:10 +0000

Speaking of Tampa Bay, the Bucs played in the NFC Championship game in their fourth year after looking much worse than this Brown's team on their way to losing their first 26 games.

There is no 'proof' in those numbers, which contain an entire season for 1999 and just seven games for 2009. The way the blogger and apparently Pat comes to their statistical conclusion–comparing league rankings in a number of stats, then giving each stat equal weight and counting them up–is meaningless.

By: terje

terje — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:41:10 +0000

"I think Pluto's book said it all: the Browns were forced to create a team too quickly in comparison to other expansion teams."

drew, are you saying that the failure of the 2009 team is because of the pre-1999 years? seriously?

By: alan t.

alan t. — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:58:17 +0000

No, I was referring to the Lakers. Although, they do the same things at Dodgers and Kings games, too. Oh so fashionably late.

By: drew

drew — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:55:50 +0000

Alan,
I think it is the Dodgers to which you are referring.