Comments on: Like it or not, it's the national impression

By: larry d.

larry d. — Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:11:32 +0000

That's funny.

By: terje

terje — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 14:01:50 +0000

1 and 5, the team looks WORSE than it ever did under romeo and players and agents from all over the league view cleveland as a graveyard. yeah, things are going to get better under mangini who was canned by his last team DESPITE having 2 out of 3 winning seasons.

larry, i don't go for doughboys but i do hope joyce looks as good as cybil shepard did in the 80's. however, i can picture mangini taking pictures like this for his female staffers.

http://www.1stoppostershop.com/products/McGaw/celebrities/mg_GeorgeTheTimelessArtOfS.jpg

By: ClayMatthewsSchoolforLaterals

ClayMatthewsSchoolforLaterals — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 13:39:20 +0000

Larry, as "We're just friends" becomes "We're lovers", to "We hate each other", so will the exciting blog tension pulsating through Ohio.com come to a sad end. Awesome pop culture reference to a show that just couldn't keep it up.

By: larry d.

larry d. — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 11:37:46 +0000

Somehow, Mangini affects terje the way terje affects Joyce. I hope it's not a sexual tension thing like on "Moonlighting."

By: Tim in Plantation FL

Tim in Plantation FL — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 06:49:52 +0000

Bigmike – I agree with everything that you've said. Good post. I'll add the fact that our schedule to start the season has been brutal – especially for a team in transition like ours. We were very bad at the end of last season, had a ton of turnover on the roster and the offense is learning a whole new system (again). We've played 4 of our 1st 6 games on the road. Our opponents have consisted of two 6-0 teams, the defending Superbowl champs on the road, the Ravens on the road, who were in the AFC Championship game last year, the much improved Bengals (with Palmer back) who are tied for the division lead that have beaten both the Ravens and Steelers this year, and the 2-4 Bills on the road, the only team we've beaten. As fans, we need to be patient and see how the next 10 games go to see how the team progresses. We have 2 tough games coming up with GB at home and Chicago on the road, but after the bye, we play Detroit, Jax, KC and Oakland and our toughest games are at home with Balt, Pitts and SD. Cinci will also be tough on the road, but we almost beat them the 1st time, so we should have a chance at that one.

It has sickened me how the Cleveland media and the national media have slammed Mangini constantly, including making up lies about him. Yeah, impatient fans who blog and call into talk shows is one thing, but there's no excuse for the treatment of the new regime by the media, especially the local media. Does the Cleveland media want to try to run the team out of town or something? It makes me wonder the way they've been acting. At the end of last year, I thought the old regime should have been given one more year to turn things around. When they were fired, I wanted Brian Billick as our next coach. I got neither – Mangini was hired. I have come to really like the guy and I'm glad now that a change was made. The constant ridiculous criticism of Mangini makes me root for the guy even more. His draft is ridiculed, but it's way too early to tell how it will pan out. Let's see, Mack is progressing pretty well as the starting center. We have 2 rookie receivers that are finally getting some playing time. Of course, many ignorant fans are writing them off as busts already. It's a well-known fact that wide receiver is the 2nd toughest position to adjust to in the NFL game besides QB. Most receivers don't make much of an impact until their 2nd or 3rd year. Massaqoui has looked great at times, bad at other times. Robiskie is finally getting his feet wet. Veneike (sp?), our other 2nd round pick, is trying to adjust from DE in college to inside LB in the NFL, which is a tough transition and fans are calling him a bust already also.

I know others feel differently, but I think the new regime really needs 2 full years before we can truly judge them. I read things all the time from fans who say silly things like "Mangini is the worst NFL coach ever". Really? The WORST? Don't think you can call a coach who had 2 winning seasons in his first 3 years of being an NFL head coach the worst ever. I'm not saying that I know for sure that he'll be great either. My gut tells me that he will, though. If the Cavs don't win it all this year, I think Mangini will be the first coach to give Cleveland the championship that it craves so badly.

By: alan t.

alan t. — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:55:36 +0000

They wouldn't have needed to put a franchise tag on Edwards. Different rules in 2010. Players will need six years of service before unrestricted free agency. And if it's an uncapped year in 2011, teams will be able to tag three guys in 2011, not just one. Edwards would have been totally screwed. But instead of using the strong leverage and handing off the offense to a strongly motivated Edwards and ballooning his value, Mangini the coach took a leak on him and Mangini the GM gave him away.

By: Rich G.

Rich G. — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 01:41:54 +0000

So they were going to put a franchise tag on Edwards? Are you sure? Do you have some info that proves that statement? I believe that you are wrong in that guess. Winslow's trade was wrong, a knee-jerk reaction by Mangini and has backfired in his face. What did the organization acquire that trade?
Shaun Smith is no loss, so i agree with you on that.
..Bigmike34 is right about some things he's posted. A good example is CB McDonalds getting posterized every game, very embarassing for a professional football player to be brushed aside that way by that Viking running back. Lack of defensive talent has always been the Browns achilles.

By: alan t.

alan t. — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 01:22:13 +0000

What? Winslow and Edwards were going nowhere. Winslow had two years remaining on his contract, Edwards is going to be a RESTRICTED free agent at the end of this season. And if giving Winslow away to the first gal who hiked up her skirt was great, then how is it the gal thought he was so great a lay that she was eager to ink him to a record gigolo price. If Mangini would have made an effort to nurture the strong inherent value to what had previously been devalued, then he wouldn't have been pawned for one of the new semi-stiff rookie wide receivers. And speaking of stiffs, who cares about Shaun Smith. If you're going to punch Brady Quinn in the face, at least have the talent to back it up. A stiff.

You're wrong. I can see the forest for the trees. The trees are all Ailanthus trees. Also known as the Stink Tree.

By: Rich G.

Rich G. — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 01:06:39 +0000

Contracts were due to expire on those players. Free agency and money was the root cause for the trades.

By: bigmike34

bigmike34 — Sat, 24 Oct 2009 01:00:12 +0000

Winslow… could catch but couldn't block and was constantly injured…Getting something for him was great…

Edwards …It had reached a point where he had to go…He could not stay here we got two players and two draft choices …It is the best we could do….and may work out very well for us…

Smith…you didn't mention him…I assume you agree with getting rid of him…

Your other comments are those of someone who can't see the Forrest for the trees….