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Jeff Fisher's standing in Tennessee

by Pat McManamon on October 21, 2009

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Jeff Fisher might be on the coaching market in 2010. Just in case the … umm … well … err .. the … the … the Browns (cough cough) need a coach.

Just in case.

On another subject … people make so much of things that don’t matter these days.

Fisher Tuesday introduced former Colts coach Tony Dungy at a charity fundraiser. He took off his dress shirt to show he was wearing a Peyton Manning jersey, then quipped: “I just wanted to feel like a winner.”

Those present, in Nashville, laughed.

Well this joke become a mini-controversy, with one radio host saying Fisher should be fired.

How’s this? A guy gives 15 good years to a team then should be fired over a joke because his team has started poorly? It was a joke.

As Fisher said on his radio show: “I was introducing Tony, just having fun with it and I really apologize if I offended anybody, but if you’re offended over the nature of that type of thing, then I think you need to rethink things.

“This is a very worthwhile and needy benefit and I was honored to be there.”

By the way … if … if … if … the Browns need a coach after the season and Fisher is available and they don’t try to hire him … well … that would be disappointing.

{ 23 comments… read them below or add one }

alan t. October 21, 2009 at 4:06 pm

11 years? Jack Pardee was fired in the mid 90s, it has to be closer to 15 years. In Bravens or Browns years, that's an eternity.

Can be please stop all the moaning and speculation about Mangini? Lerner's planting of a Hungarian spy and all the media and fan moaning in the world won't change the fact that the guy is the 2010 Browns head coach. But if it will make you feel any better, here's video of him getting whacked. http://xr.com/ls5

Rich G. October 21, 2009 at 4:22 pm

So you're suggesting that we need yet another coaching change? Didn't you complain about about the revolving door for coaches in Berea. Getting the feeling that you have an axe to grind with the current adminstration.
Didn't just write about the lack of "continuity" in the Browns organization.
What's it like being a "HYPOCRITE". Can't have it both ways, Brutus.

terje October 21, 2009 at 4:48 pm

mangini isn't going anywhere.

however, the guy is utter and complete trash. so if pat wants to pray that randy lerner fires up the two brain cells he's got and cans the ballboy i'm all for it. unfortunately, people like rich g. enjoy watching year after year of the worst football ever played in the nfl. so mangini will probably have a good six year run as the least deserving head coach in football history.

Tbomb October 21, 2009 at 7:04 pm

Dandy can't, and won't do anything as he has the actual hands of a twelve year old girl. Seriously, this guy needs to occasionally pick up something heavier than a pencil. Sell the team!

Rich G. October 21, 2009 at 8:09 pm

So here we go again with the "Flavor of the Month" parade led by head cheerleader terje( French for "whiner"). What are we going to "whine" about next month, the absent owner? Everybody sees what's happening on and off the field. Just because I don't cry like a girl with her panties in a bunch, doesn't mean that I agree with them.
Other than Jesus C. Christ as the head coach, nobody is good enough to coach the Browns. You'll probably crucify him anyway. Wait a minute….you seem to have all of the answers, you should submit your resume' to become head honcho.

alan t. October 21, 2009 at 8:28 pm

Jesus C. Christ? Come on, Rich G. I'm not the least bit religious, but even *I* know the dude with the sandals is named Jesus H. Christ.

terje October 21, 2009 at 8:33 pm

my qualifications to be head coach of the browns are just as good as mangini's. being belichick's sandwich boy is all he ever was before the jets were foolish enough to hire him. one year as belichick's d coordinator is as good as being michelangelo's paint brush cleaner. any other choice for a head coach would have been acceptable. this is no "flavor of the month" for me. i've hated mangini for years. rich, sorry i'm not cool with your doughboy.

btw rich g., do the browns hire you full time to defend them on the boards or you just do it between burger king runs for eric the fat?

alan t. October 21, 2009 at 9:09 pm

Hey, I'd like to know how a team goes from 1-15 to 11-5 in one season and makes a "locker room cancer" like Braylon Edwards … uh, I mean like Ricky Williams, a valuable part of both the team's new system and the team. That new head coach and GM of theirs must have really sucked.

Jonah October 21, 2009 at 10:30 pm

Am I seriously the only commenter here who agrees with Pat that Jeff Fisher would be an ENORMOUS, EARTH-CHANGING improvement over Chubs Mangeenie? I could care less if we're "starting over" again. At least it would be with someone….you know…"sane."

Rich G. October 22, 2009 at 8:30 am

So a carousel of of coaches and general managers on one year contracts is ok? Common sense is in short supply with a few of you.

terje October 22, 2009 at 9:40 am

rich, mangini is the wrong guy. it is IRRELEVANT how many other coaches and g.m.s have come before. lack of continuity does NOT justify keeping a coach as terrible as mangini. get it yet? i doubt it.

alan t. October 22, 2009 at 3:11 pm

terje, BINGO! Too simple a concept for some folks to comprehend, I guess.

alan t. October 22, 2009 at 3:43 pm

Rich G., still hard at work posting under my name. Pal, seriously, CCC doesn't require you to actually attend? Don't they assign homework? Is it one of those correspondence schools now?

terje October 22, 2009 at 4:24 pm

no surpise that an idiot bringing up that belichick comparison had to hide under your name alan. because the comparison is absurd, moronic, mindless and flat out WRONG.

belichick was defensive coordinator under parcells for FIVE years before he became head coach in cleveland.

contrast that with mangini's ONE year under belichick as d coordinator.

bill belichick went back to parcells for FIVE more years after modell canned him.

contrast that with mangini's ONE minute between jets and browns gigs.

all people who think that mangini and belichick are a valid comparison should turn on the car, close the garage door and breathe deeply because you are stealing our oxygen.

Rich G. October 23, 2009 at 2:10 pm

Wasn't me posting with your name…fool. I will tell you to your face that I don't like you. I don't need to hide. Many here don't care for you at all.

alan t. October 23, 2009 at 2:54 pm

Speaking of what I wrote above with "BINGO!" (you do know how to play BINGO, don't you, Rich G.?), Dan Snyder appears to be as much of an imbecile about professional football as Lerner. What's the deal with that guy Snyder? He hires an offensive coordinator to try to force his own head coach out, a guy who has been out of the league for five years and was actually calling BINGO games when he was called? On the sanity level, it would be like hiring Mangini to be both your head coach and GM by proxy, but just slightly more insane.

Rich G. October 23, 2009 at 3:35 pm

You should've used Raiders as a reference. Didn't Callahan hire a guy who'd been running a bed & breakfast for six years to be his OC.

Your such a moron, you're being punked. Are you that dense? Is your medication running short? Why is somebody picking on you? Is it your buddy terje? Maybe its your long lost Mommy, the one that threw you out of the house cause she just didn't like you.

alan t. October 23, 2009 at 5:28 pm

I type Lerner and Snyder, and you bring up Bill Callahan. I was unaware that Bill Callahan used to own the Raiders, and was unaware that anybody else but Al Davis hires 100% of the Raiders' coaches. That's because Bill Callahan didn't own the Raiders, and that's because Bill Callahan never hired anybody, let alone offensive coordinator Marc Trestman, both of whom Davis promoted from within, let alone Callahan never hired an offensive coordinator kidnapped from a cute New Hampshire bed and breakfast along with that adorable couple from "The Sopranos," Vito and Johnny Cakes.

But anyway, thanks for the knowledge, even if it was bad knowledge. At least it took you away from your alan t. and terje graffiti for a few minutes.

Rich G. October 23, 2009 at 5:43 pm

It was a reference to the hire of a "retired" OC. Someone that has been out of the league for a few years.
Just curious about your "posting" for terje. Why do you? Is that an alter ego? Second, why are you accusing me of posting in your name? Didn't you accuse Brian D. of the same thing a few days ago( Oct 21)? Is today my turn? Is there something wrong with you? Would you like to rest your head on my shoulder and cry? Would you like a tissue?

alan t. October 23, 2009 at 6:43 pm

Marc Trestman was out of the league and retired? Interesting. Bill Callahan hired somebody in Oakland? Interesting. Not the least bit true, but interesting. And yeah, I accused Brian D. of doing the same thing a few days ago … appears the two of you would make a good WWE tag team. All we need now is my first stalker "Rick" (you never forget your first stalker, it's always special), and we could have a Battle Royal. I warn you, I pack a mean Bobo Brazil Coco-Butt.

Rich G. October 23, 2009 at 8:02 pm

You know it could've been A. Shell's staff that hired the retired OC. Yet, the Raiders subscribe to your coaching carousel theory, that "flavor of the month" attitude. I've read many of your posts, why are they always negative? Doesn't the sun shine once a dogs a**?
hahaha……I don't need any help smacking you down in ring. Those internet muscles are mighty big, tough guy.

alan t. October 23, 2009 at 10:35 pm

Why are you comparing the coaching carousel of the Raiders to the coaching carousel of the Browns? There is no valid comparison. The Lerners are Laissez-faire and give carte blanche and always hire the wrong people in the first place. It's certainly not because they're impatient, it's because they don't know what they're doing.

Al Davis, on the other hand, is a senile tyrant who runs every aspect of the operation, rules with an iron fist, has the personality and the patience of Mussolini if the train ran late, and goes through head coaches like George Steinbrenner used to go through managers and Taco Bell customers go through rolls of toilet paper.

Davis hires the least qualified guys because nobody but the desperate want to work for him. The Lerners hire the wrong guys because they know how to hijack an American football franchise, but they don't have a clue how to run one.

So what does ridding a team of Mangini's stench have to do with the Raiders? Nothing, that's what.

Rich G2 October 24, 2009 at 1:59 pm

Always trying to have the last word in…hmmm interesting problem you have.

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