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	<title>Comments on: Pardon us for disagreeing Mr. Roethlisberger</title>
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		<title>By: jayman</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2009/10/19/pardon-us-for-disagreeing-mr-roethlisberger/comment-page-1/#comment-8216</link>
		<dc:creator>jayman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree. Growing up I used to love hating the Browns. (Or I hated to love them. I&#039;m conflicted.) It was like fighting with family. You know exactly how to hurt your family because you take the time and care enough to understand them. It doesn&#039;t matter that two seconds ago you were literally trying to choke the life out of each other, when someone else tries to mess with your family you resent it. So against any other team but my Stillers I&#039;d root for the Browns (often futile but there it is).  

You&#039;re stuck with family. We&#039;re all in this together. Because no one&#039;s going anywhere, right?

And then you went away. 

Well, I guess technically someone stole your team after your taxpayers wrote a $175 million check. (I don&#039;t know, the whole &#039;lease the stadium and then rent it to yourself&#039; scheme that Modell concocted seems fishy to me. (And you guys didn&#039;t see anything wrong with a guy who helped the Browns move buying the team when it came back? (And isn&#039;t it funny how after he signs a better deal in Baltimore, Modell still managed to bankrupt his franchise?)))

But these Ravens, man. They&#039;re not family. There&#039;s no love. I don&#039;t want them to do well. I just want them to die. Not even a horrible, mean death. I don&#039;t care enough for that. I just want them to quietly stop breathing. They&#039;re annoying neighbors who talk too damn much when all I want to do is let my dog go pee and handle his bidness. 

And then the team came back, and it just wasn&#039;t the same. I don&#039;t know if it was the three years we had to cool off, or if it was that your team never really &#039;came back&#039; to legitimately play in the NFL, but, man, you guys got screwed but good.

(And as for Belicheat... I guess he just hadn&#039;t perfected his art during his time with the Browns. Cameras have gotten so much smaller in the past couple decades. (Seriously, screw the Patriots.))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. Growing up I used to love hating the Browns. (Or I hated to love them. I&#039;m conflicted.) It was like fighting with family. You know exactly how to hurt your family because you take the time and care enough to understand them. It doesn&#039;t matter that two seconds ago you were literally trying to choke the life out of each other, when someone else tries to mess with your family you resent it. So against any other team but my Stillers I&#039;d root for the Browns (often futile but there it is).  </p>
<p>You&#039;re stuck with family. We&#039;re all in this together. Because no one&#039;s going anywhere, right?</p>
<p>And then you went away. </p>
<p>Well, I guess technically someone stole your team after your taxpayers wrote a $175 million check. (I don&#039;t know, the whole &#039;lease the stadium and then rent it to yourself&#039; scheme that Modell concocted seems fishy to me. (And you guys didn&#039;t see anything wrong with a guy who helped the Browns move buying the team when it came back? (And isn&#039;t it funny how after he signs a better deal in Baltimore, Modell still managed to bankrupt his franchise?)))</p>
<p>But these Ravens, man. They&#039;re not family. There&#039;s no love. I don&#039;t want them to do well. I just want them to die. Not even a horrible, mean death. I don&#039;t care enough for that. I just want them to quietly stop breathing. They&#039;re annoying neighbors who talk too damn much when all I want to do is let my dog go pee and handle his bidness. </p>
<p>And then the team came back, and it just wasn&#039;t the same. I don&#039;t know if it was the three years we had to cool off, or if it was that your team never really &#039;came back&#039; to legitimately play in the NFL, but, man, you guys got screwed but good.</p>
<p>(And as for Belicheat&#8230; I guess he just hadn&#039;t perfected his art during his time with the Browns. Cameras have gotten so much smaller in the past couple decades. (Seriously, screw the Patriots.))</p>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 19:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a lifelong Steeler fan who wishes the rivalry was still between the Steelers and Browns and not the classless Ravens. I used to thoroughly enjoy those two games every year. Why did that idiot have to move the Browns to Baltimore and ruin everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a lifelong Steeler fan who wishes the rivalry was still between the Steelers and Browns and not the classless Ravens. I used to thoroughly enjoy those two games every year. Why did that idiot have to move the Browns to Baltimore and ruin everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 15:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben holds himself and the team to a standard that is higher than stats.  That is why the team wins - they are never satisfied with their performance no matter how it looks on game day or after.  Learn from them and start winning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben holds himself and the team to a standard that is higher than stats.  That is why the team wins &#8211; they are never satisfied with their performance no matter how it looks on game day or after.  Learn from them and start winning.</p>
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		<title>By: deric</title>
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		<dc:creator>deric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 14:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Steelers fan, I cant wait until the games are more of a challenge, the wins are empty. Steelers-Bengals are better matchups then Steelers-Browns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Steelers fan, I cant wait until the games are more of a challenge, the wins are empty. Steelers-Bengals are better matchups then Steelers-Browns.</p>
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		<title>By: Todd</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2009/10/19/pardon-us-for-disagreeing-mr-roethlisberger/comment-page-1/#comment-8076</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 12:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Steelers fan, I&#039;m glad to see everybody in Cleveland knows their Browns still suck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Steelers fan, I&#039;m glad to see everybody in Cleveland knows their Browns still suck.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here, Joyce.  Enjoy.  http://xr.com/hqi8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here, Joyce.  Enjoy.  <a href="http://xr.com/hqi8" rel="nofollow">http://xr.com/hqi8</a></p>
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		<title>By: geddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>geddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as awful as the redskins are, they at least can take solace in the fact that zorn will be gone at the end of the season, with snyder offering some celebrity coach big money to coach that terrible team.  Browns fans know that Mangini&#039;s bloated outline will continue to grace the sidelines regardless of how terrible the team is this year.  and for those people talking about all the draft picks we&#039;ve got next season, what about this draft made you think mangini can do anything with them, besides trade down a bunch of times for a so-so center and then pick up a couple of WRs who likely won&#039;t be with the browns in three years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as awful as the redskins are, they at least can take solace in the fact that zorn will be gone at the end of the season, with snyder offering some celebrity coach big money to coach that terrible team.  Browns fans know that Mangini&#039;s bloated outline will continue to grace the sidelines regardless of how terrible the team is this year.  and for those people talking about all the draft picks we&#039;ve got next season, what about this draft made you think mangini can do anything with them, besides trade down a bunch of times for a so-so center and then pick up a couple of WRs who likely won&#039;t be with the browns in three years?</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Useless banner?&quot;  What is &quot;useless banner,&quot; Joyce?  Oh, wait a minute, I know.  Wasn&#039;t that the name of the guy before he turned into the Incredible Hulk?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;Useless banner?&#034;  What is &#034;useless banner,&#034; Joyce?  Oh, wait a minute, I know.  Wasn&#039;t that the name of the guy before he turned into the Incredible Hulk?</p>
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		<title>By: Joyce B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joyce B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 03:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat, I guess Sean is joining the Terje - Alan comedy team.  This site used to be about sports.....kind of like Triv&#039;s show used to be.  If I wanted useless banner, I would watch Fox News.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat, I guess Sean is joining the Terje &#8211; Alan comedy team.  This site used to be about sports&#8230;..kind of like Triv&#039;s show used to be.  If I wanted useless banner, I would watch Fox News.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard they are close..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve heard they are close..</p>
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