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		<title>By: Pol49</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pol49</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 03:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smithers?  I prefer Apu.

He&#039;s a special teams guy.  That&#039;s it.  He&#039;s being paid what he&#039;s worth.  He signed a contract.  It&#039;s not a charity, it&#039;s a business.  Cribbs got a guaranteed $2 million just for writing his name on a piece of paper.  If he turned out to be lousy, would he have given it back?  He didn&#039;t make the Pro Bowl last season, a fact homers ignore.  He might not make the Pro Bowl this season.  Just because he&#039;s better than a lot of the other players on the Browns roster is irrelevant.  Just because he *might* be able to play other positions is irrelevant.   

If he starts playing quarterback, safety, running back and wide receiver on every down and on every possession, and does it without looking like he&#039;s just another guy on an expansion team, then get back to me.  Otherwise, it&#039;s dumb to even discuss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smithers?  I prefer Apu.</p>
<p>He&#039;s a special teams guy.  That&#039;s it.  He&#039;s being paid what he&#039;s worth.  He signed a contract.  It&#039;s not a charity, it&#039;s a business.  Cribbs got a guaranteed $2 million just for writing his name on a piece of paper.  If he turned out to be lousy, would he have given it back?  He didn&#039;t make the Pro Bowl last season, a fact homers ignore.  He might not make the Pro Bowl this season.  Just because he&#039;s better than a lot of the other players on the Browns roster is irrelevant.  Just because he *might* be able to play other positions is irrelevant.   </p>
<p>If he starts playing quarterback, safety, running back and wide receiver on every down and on every possession, and does it without looking like he&#039;s just another guy on an expansion team, then get back to me.  Otherwise, it&#039;s dumb to even discuss.</p>
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		<title>By: danlboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>danlboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Smithers(aka alan t.)

True his agent is the one charged with making the contract dispute public matter. From that point forward the media can ask any questions they wish of the player wishing to renegotiate their contract. No comment is great to say but really doesn&#039;t help sell your point.

Being that he unwisely signed a lengthy contract his only option at this point is to threaten holdout to get attention. He did not holdout. He played and better than most - Smithers.

Do you own a team Smithers? Are you the one that makes multi-million $$ off the backs of these athletes? Lerner makes a great deal of money and it wouldn&#039;t kill him or his crony Man-genius to throw a little charity to those that still take playing for the Browns seriously.

By the way Smithers, if you want to start slinging insults around, understand that you only prove further my point of your lack of education. You think you&#039;ve taken some hard ass stance when truly I believe you are simply defending the view point of someone far cooler than you could ever hope to be. Perhaps it&#039;s a mancrush. And you would lose your bet because I don&#039;t give one good damn about Zydrunas Ilgauskas, the Cavaliers, or the whole stinking sport of basketball. I even had to google that ridiculous name...Smithers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Smithers(aka alan t.)</p>
<p>True his agent is the one charged with making the contract dispute public matter. From that point forward the media can ask any questions they wish of the player wishing to renegotiate their contract. No comment is great to say but really doesn&#039;t help sell your point.</p>
<p>Being that he unwisely signed a lengthy contract his only option at this point is to threaten holdout to get attention. He did not holdout. He played and better than most &#8211; Smithers.</p>
<p>Do you own a team Smithers? Are you the one that makes multi-million $$ off the backs of these athletes? Lerner makes a great deal of money and it wouldn&#039;t kill him or his crony Man-genius to throw a little charity to those that still take playing for the Browns seriously.</p>
<p>By the way Smithers, if you want to start slinging insults around, understand that you only prove further my point of your lack of education. You think you&#039;ve taken some hard ass stance when truly I believe you are simply defending the view point of someone far cooler than you could ever hope to be. Perhaps it&#039;s a mancrush. And you would lose your bet because I don&#039;t give one good damn about Zydrunas Ilgauskas, the Cavaliers, or the whole stinking sport of basketball. I even had to google that ridiculous name&#8230;Smithers.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhh ... Cribbs AGENT was called by the reporters?  No.  The other way around.  There is a simple expression Cribbs can use.  &quot;No comment.&quot;  Like I said, an opportunist.  The sole guy with any semblance of talent, albeit nothing but a really, really poor man&#039;s Antwaan Randle El, on a really, really bad team.   

And what are you talking about?  He threatened to hold out.  He was griping publicly in the off-season.  He&#039;s griping publicly now.  That&#039;s not how professionals are supposed to act.  

Stop being such a homer.  That&#039;s a textbook homer post.  I have $10,000 that says you feel the exact same way about Zydrunas Ilgauskas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uhh &#8230; Cribbs AGENT was called by the reporters?  No.  The other way around.  There is a simple expression Cribbs can use.  &#034;No comment.&#034;  Like I said, an opportunist.  The sole guy with any semblance of talent, albeit nothing but a really, really poor man&#039;s Antwaan Randle El, on a really, really bad team.   </p>
<p>And what are you talking about?  He threatened to hold out.  He was griping publicly in the off-season.  He&#039;s griping publicly now.  That&#039;s not how professionals are supposed to act.  </p>
<p>Stop being such a homer.  That&#039;s a textbook homer post.  I have $10,000 that says you feel the exact same way about Zydrunas Ilgauskas.</p>
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		<title>By: danlboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>danlboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 09:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And then we get the usual dumb comments badmouthing Edwards, when the plain painful fact of the matter is he obviously is so more talented than what&#039;s left, it&#039;s not even worthy of discussion.&quot;

The fact that you could even seriously say this makes me think I might be arguing with an uneducated person. Why? Because no matter how much supportive data is thrown your way, once you&#039;ve made your mind up, their is nothing anyone can say to crack the eggshell you are living in. 

&quot;How is screaming through the media that he&#039;s looking out for #1 *DURING THE FREAKIN&#039; SEASON* expressing himself rather well? Better he should scream that he can&#039;t pass worth a damn and that he&#039;s going to put in extra practice to learn.&quot;

Cribbs doesn&#039;t hold press conferences to express his dissatisfaction about his contract. It is an issue that reporters are aware of and they ask questions. 95% of the time he does say he wants to put in extra practice to learn. Bubble boys like yourself only hear the 5% of the conversation that got put on ESPN about the contract situation. It&#039;s not as if he goes out and bats down balls during drills. He goes out and does what he gets paid (dismally IN MY OPINION) to do. So he didn&#039;t holdout for more money, he didn&#039;t under perform to be traded, hell, he doesn&#039;t even want traded, yet he&#039;s &quot;crying&quot; in the media.

&quot;Come to think of it, I&#039;m surprised none of the boobs who quote stupid passer ratings like it&#039;s the Ten Commandments haven&#039;t typed Cribbs&#039; passer rating. I&#039;m sure it&#039;s fabulous.&quot;

If you were going off of passer ratings, Cribbs might as well be the starting QB. His numbers couldn&#039;t be much more dismal than what we&#039;ve had to date. Which is why I said cut Quinn and DA and start Cribbs with one of those guys checks. But if you don&#039;t base your QB love off of passer ratings or &quot;heart&quot; then you have to base them off of W&#039;s and if that&#039;s the case logic dictates that you might as well jump on the Joshua Cribbs bandwagon. He would save our team money and he would get his and I don&#039;t think we could lose any more games with him back their than with anyone else.

By the way, if hearing about a players contract negotiations bothers you so adversely, I suggest that you bow out of watching these programs so as to lower your blood pressure. These things happen all the time. No NFL, NBA, or  MLB player is worth what they are paid, but these players put butts in the seat and pad the wealth of their team owners. It is not such a big deal that a player asks for more money as long as they are still delivering a quality product without interrupted service. That&#039;s the American way and you should not upset yourself so greatly with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;And then we get the usual dumb comments badmouthing Edwards, when the plain painful fact of the matter is he obviously is so more talented than what&#039;s left, it&#039;s not even worthy of discussion.&#034;</p>
<p>The fact that you could even seriously say this makes me think I might be arguing with an uneducated person. Why? Because no matter how much supportive data is thrown your way, once you&#039;ve made your mind up, their is nothing anyone can say to crack the eggshell you are living in. </p>
<p>&#034;How is screaming through the media that he&#039;s looking out for #1 *DURING THE FREAKIN&#039; SEASON* expressing himself rather well? Better he should scream that he can&#039;t pass worth a damn and that he&#039;s going to put in extra practice to learn.&#034;</p>
<p>Cribbs doesn&#039;t hold press conferences to express his dissatisfaction about his contract. It is an issue that reporters are aware of and they ask questions. 95% of the time he does say he wants to put in extra practice to learn. Bubble boys like yourself only hear the 5% of the conversation that got put on ESPN about the contract situation. It&#039;s not as if he goes out and bats down balls during drills. He goes out and does what he gets paid (dismally IN MY OPINION) to do. So he didn&#039;t holdout for more money, he didn&#039;t under perform to be traded, hell, he doesn&#039;t even want traded, yet he&#039;s &#034;crying&#034; in the media.</p>
<p>&#034;Come to think of it, I&#039;m surprised none of the boobs who quote stupid passer ratings like it&#039;s the Ten Commandments haven&#039;t typed Cribbs&#039; passer rating. I&#039;m sure it&#039;s fabulous.&#034;</p>
<p>If you were going off of passer ratings, Cribbs might as well be the starting QB. His numbers couldn&#039;t be much more dismal than what we&#039;ve had to date. Which is why I said cut Quinn and DA and start Cribbs with one of those guys checks. But if you don&#039;t base your QB love off of passer ratings or &#034;heart&#034; then you have to base them off of W&#039;s and if that&#039;s the case logic dictates that you might as well jump on the Joshua Cribbs bandwagon. He would save our team money and he would get his and I don&#039;t think we could lose any more games with him back their than with anyone else.</p>
<p>By the way, if hearing about a players contract negotiations bothers you so adversely, I suggest that you bow out of watching these programs so as to lower your blood pressure. These things happen all the time. No NFL, NBA, or  MLB player is worth what they are paid, but these players put butts in the seat and pad the wealth of their team owners. It is not such a big deal that a player asks for more money as long as they are still delivering a quality product without interrupted service. That&#039;s the American way and you should not upset yourself so greatly with it.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 01:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better yet, if his &quot;career can be over in an instant,&quot; then do what any guy with a business brain would do to protect himself.  Buy contract insurance from Lloyd&#039;s of London.  Problem solved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better yet, if his &#034;career can be over in an instant,&#034; then do what any guy with a business brain would do to protect himself.  Buy contract insurance from Lloyd&#039;s of London.  Problem solved.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that&#039;s the risk a guy takes playing in the NFL.  If he doesn&#039;t like it, then he should have gotten a job playing in the NBA.  If he doesn&#039;t like it, then he shouldn&#039;t have signed a contract extension.  Did anybody hold a gun to his head? 

The man is being paid his money.  To the best of my knowledge, he is not having any of his checks withheld.  He gets paid on the 1st and on the 15th like clockwork.  Until he proves he can do something on a consistent basis other than playing on special teams, then he is being paid his worth.  The guy should go to Thistledown and steal himself a muzzle.  

Come to think of it, I&#039;m surprised none of the boobs who quote stupid passer ratings like it&#039;s the Ten Commandments haven&#039;t typed Cribbs&#039; passer rating.  I&#039;m sure it&#039;s fabulous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that&#039;s the risk a guy takes playing in the NFL.  If he doesn&#039;t like it, then he should have gotten a job playing in the NBA.  If he doesn&#039;t like it, then he shouldn&#039;t have signed a contract extension.  Did anybody hold a gun to his head? </p>
<p>The man is being paid his money.  To the best of my knowledge, he is not having any of his checks withheld.  He gets paid on the 1st and on the 15th like clockwork.  Until he proves he can do something on a consistent basis other than playing on special teams, then he is being paid his worth.  The guy should go to Thistledown and steal himself a muzzle.  </p>
<p>Come to think of it, I&#039;m surprised none of the boobs who quote stupid passer ratings like it&#039;s the Ten Commandments haven&#039;t typed Cribbs&#039; passer rating.  I&#039;m sure it&#039;s fabulous.</p>
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		<title>By: ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 00:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cribbs&#039; productive lifespan in the NFL erodes weekly;  Mangini &amp; management have no such limitations -- just look at how Mangini got where he is today. He was run out of NY and landed on his feet in total control of another football team.

Cribbs&#039; career can be over in an instant. Pay the man his money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cribbs&#039; productive lifespan in the NFL erodes weekly;  Mangini &amp; management have no such limitations &#8212; just look at how Mangini got where he is today. He was run out of NY and landed on his feet in total control of another football team.</p>
<p>Cribbs&#039; career can be over in an instant. Pay the man his money.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cribbs has expressed himself rather well?  How is screaming through the media that he&#039;s looking out for #1 *DURING THE FREAKIN&#039; SEASON* expressing himself rather well?  Better he should scream that he can&#039;t pass worth a damn and that he&#039;s going to put in extra practice to learn.  

In fact, he and his agent are stinking opportunists.  They are attempting to benefit from him being on a really bad team.  He wouldn&#039;t be screaming through the media about his contract if he was on a good team, because he and his agent know the media and the fans would respond that he is being selfish.  Thinking about only himself instead of the team.  But since he&#039;s on a bad team, it somehow makes it OK to be selfish, and fans who are suckers for anything buy into the farce.

The calls for him to shut up are totally apropos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cribbs has expressed himself rather well?  How is screaming through the media that he&#039;s looking out for #1 *DURING THE FREAKIN&#039; SEASON* expressing himself rather well?  Better he should scream that he can&#039;t pass worth a damn and that he&#039;s going to put in extra practice to learn.  </p>
<p>In fact, he and his agent are stinking opportunists.  They are attempting to benefit from him being on a really bad team.  He wouldn&#039;t be screaming through the media about his contract if he was on a good team, because he and his agent know the media and the fans would respond that he is being selfish.  Thinking about only himself instead of the team.  But since he&#039;s on a bad team, it somehow makes it OK to be selfish, and fans who are suckers for anything buy into the farce.</p>
<p>The calls for him to shut up are totally apropos.</p>
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		<title>By: ralph</title>
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		<dc:creator>ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, so much to respond to... so little time.

1) I could not care less where Cribbs played his college ball. My issue with paying him is solely based on his production at the position he plays.

2) It always takes me a little aback at how little respect special teams players -- especially good ones, get. Starting drives constantly at the 40 yard line or better would be a huge advantage for any NFL team with a decent offense. Oh yeah; he (along with those blocking on the play) occasionally go the distance without having to trouble the offense at all. In addition, he&#039;s the best defensive special teams player they have as well.

3) It&#039;s not his fault Mangini&#039;s minions can&#039;t use him correctly on offense. 

4) What&#039;s with the constant calls for people to &quot;shut up?&quot; Cribbs has expressed himself rather well, I think -- not being disrespectful to his teammates, coaches, or the fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so much to respond to&#8230; so little time.</p>
<p>1) I could not care less where Cribbs played his college ball. My issue with paying him is solely based on his production at the position he plays.</p>
<p>2) It always takes me a little aback at how little respect special teams players &#8212; especially good ones, get. Starting drives constantly at the 40 yard line or better would be a huge advantage for any NFL team with a decent offense. Oh yeah; he (along with those blocking on the play) occasionally go the distance without having to trouble the offense at all. In addition, he&#039;s the best defensive special teams player they have as well.</p>
<p>3) It&#039;s not his fault Mangini&#039;s minions can&#039;t use him correctly on offense. </p>
<p>4) What&#039;s with the constant calls for people to &#034;shut up?&#034; Cribbs has expressed himself rather well, I think &#8212; not being disrespectful to his teammates, coaches, or the fans.</p>
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