Comments on: The Browns trade Braylon Edwards

By: alan t.

alan t. — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:55:20 +0000

Chicago offered at least a 2nd rounder for Boldin … so did the Redskins. This comes from their own people, not rumor. Philadelphia offered a 3rd rounder and Sheldon Brown. And the Boldin situation is different in that it could linger for years because of his long-term contract situation. Edwards is in his last year. Apples to pears. The Roy Williams example is apples to apples in every way.

By: andy@ksu

andy@ksu — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:46:24 +0000

By the way alan No Name is right, everyone was criticizing jones for trading two thirds and a first for williams. your godfather example might apply to detroit's end of the deal.

By: andy@ksu

andy@ksu — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:36:41 +0000

also alan, why are you ignoring the boldin example that myself and No Name brought up?

By: alan t.

alan t. — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:31:36 +0000

Oh, come on, andy … don't shower me with semantics. If 300 reviewers reviewed "The Godfather," and five of those reviewers said the movie blew chunks, then the movie wasn't ridiculed.

By: andy@ksu

andy@ksu — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:27:33 +0000

"andy, who cares if Jones was "ridiculed?" (Actually he really wasn't, but that's not the point.)"

sounds like you did say jones wasnt ridiculed

By: alan t.

alan t. — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:26:35 +0000

Please. I didn't say Jones wasn't ridiculed. Even a few movie reviewers thought "The Godfather" sucked. So what? Most didn't. The point was one GM out of 32 thought Roy Williams was worth a 1st round pick. Not only didn't they get a 1st rounder, they didn't even get a 2nd rounder! Why wasn't he traded on draft day, when some GMs panic? Why wasn't he traded at the deadline, when some GMs panic?

I mean, this is so f**king stupid, that "addition by subtraction" rationalization and con job. It's not addition unless you receive something tangible and/or in quality in return. Sorry, but future bench players and waiver wire scrap is not addition in any way, shape or form.

And whoopie, Robiskie will now get playing time. He could have and should have gotten playing time regardless. Play a three wide receiver set. Or whatever.

Scraps, rejects, retreads and rookies. An 11-year-old expansion team. They'll still win a few, but this mess is inexcusable, and the arguments in favor of this lousy trade stink to high heaven.

By: No Name

No Name — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:21:23 +0000

So what if Braylon was restricted next year. His value would have been lower as trade bait since he was not going to be effective with the Browns this year. Waiting another two weeks to see who else would have called could have dropped his value more as well. If the league comes back on the 19th and says Edwards is suspended 2 games, would they then be able to trade him for the same value? Most likely not.

This season is lost. Let's see what we have with the rookie WR's. The Browns desperately needed depth. It is up to the coaching staff to do the rest

Also, the Roy Williams example is a stretch because Jerry Jones was indeed ridiculed for the trade. I am not sure how you can say that because everyone criticized it then and especially around the draft. Boldin, who was better then either Edwards or Williams couldn't get a sniff of a first rd pick. No GM was going to make that mistake. This was the best they were going to get so they took it. Addition by Subtraction

http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/sportatorium/2009/04/dallas_only_daily_exploits_aik.php

http://profootball.scout.com/2/802110.html

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/columnists/hyde/blog/2008/10/dolphins_not_getting_roy_willi_1.html

http://newsok.com/its-roy-williams-or-bust-for-cowboys/article/3363483

By: alan t.

alan t. — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 06:39:39 +0000

I just realized that Edwards would have been a restricted free agent, not unrestricted, if the CBA is allowed to lapse. Which makes this trade even worse, if that's possible.

This is unbelievable. Mangini has done everything wrong to date. Fans attacking him left and right. Then, the guy is too gutless to suspend Edwards, so he instead trades him to the very city in which he wanted to go in exchange for a few bowls of Cheerios covered in spoiled milk. And incredibly, the exact same Taco Bell dogs who previously were attacking Mangini's ankles are now giving Mangini a standing ovation for giving Edwards away. This when a far superior deal could have been accomplished either in the off-season or at the trade deadline. All in the name of some imaginary moral high road. Suddenly, in these same peoples' eyes, Mangini is some sort of moral miracle worker, a locker room oncologist killing an imaginary locker room cancer.

I'm sorry, but terje is right. Cleveland fans (in all sports) have got to be the most naive and stupid fans on the face of the planet. Seriously.

By: Jimgreen

Jimgreen — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:50:30 +0000

When ask about the team, his "I've got one more year here" comment said it all. Edwards also has a drinking problem. We wasted alot of plays throwing to him and it cost other people their careers – almost DA. I don't know if it's his drinking or his attitude or both that gave him the dropsies, but I'm glad to see him go. Paul Brown would have had him gone like crap through a goose. Character is important. We will be better off without him. To those who would have benched him, I say, he doesn't deserve the effort.

By: alan t.

alan t. — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 02:31:36 +0000

Oh, I forgot to mention, andy, … indeed, like Edwards, Roy Williams was also constantly heckled for dropping passes, and, like Edwards, was also going to be an unrestricted free agent after the season. Roy Williams. Perfect example, terje. Glad you brought it up, because I forgot about him.