Comments on: The negativity continues

By: Bill

Bill — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:36:22 +0000

It is a sign of how awful things are with the Browns that many fans yearn for Marty S. who never won a big game in his entire career.

By: State of Apathy

State of Apathy — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:41:41 +0000

Sunday's Outlook…Bad Weather, Down by 17 at the half.

The stadium is less than half full at the start of the third quarter.

Pathetic.

By: Craig Williams

Craig Williams — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:50:12 +0000

I just wish Mangini would leave. I havent missed a game in years until this sunday.

By: ClayMatthewsSchoolforLaterals

ClayMatthewsSchoolforLaterals — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 18:34:31 +0000

Sean, in the time it took for us to have this blog "conversation", the Indians have fired Wedge. I just saw the headline coming back to check the blog. So, we can start using the past tense for Wedge. You certainly have the right word in "robotic".
I would add stubborn, unprepared for change & adversity, and clueless.

By: Sean

Sean — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:41:56 +0000

No player can function under an oppressive system where the coach badgers the players like little children. With the Indians, Wedge was not a major part of the problem: it's these weak, inconsistent hitters Shapiro has acquired; as well as ineffective pitchers. And no player leadership to speak of.

Do you think Joe Torre or Mike Soscia or Terry Francona or Charlie Manuel (I could keep listing) are any harder or softer on players than Wedge? If anything, I felt Wedge was too robotic, too businesslike, not loose enough. The players play "tight" and with "no fun," and it really shows.

By: ClayMatthewsSchoolforLaterals

ClayMatthewsSchoolforLaterals — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:04:52 +0000

An interesting lesson, relating to the other lousy Cleveland sports team. Many of us felt that one of Romeo's problems was that he was too "soft", especially on the players. Mangenius was going to be the polar opposite, a tough disciplinarian. Guess team discipline isn't the big issue with the Browns. And, I have been sure that Eric Wedge's major problem is that he is a "player's manager", a cliche that usually means that he is more like a buddy, than a boss, to the players. A tough guy, in the Jim Leyland mold, would be the cure for the Tribe. Now I'm not so sure.
While Anyone-but-Wedge should still be the motto, it looks like we don't need the baseball equivalent of one of those school principals who carry baseball bats.

By: Matt

Matt — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:47:08 +0000

I'm not opposed to Marty. And I'd seriously consider Bernie as an offensive coach. Until this team's entire offensive philosophy changes, we aren't winning. Yeah, I know…people harp on the defense. But folks, we don't score. We don't move the ball. We have zero chance of ever winning anything like that. This "play it close to the vest, conservative, slow-it-down and run-out-the-clock" crap is for losers. A wide-open attack, as Bernie endorses, would not only move the ball forward, it would excite the paying customers who are now fleeing in droves.

By: alan t.

alan t. — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:37:18 +0000

Schottenheimer? You forgot "weeps tears once a month like he's suffering from PMS," "always loses games that mean anything" and "guaranteed to be fired by the age of 70."

By: Salinian

Salinian — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:18:28 +0000

This is being written for third time in four years: The man to fix this mess is Marty Schottenheimer. Should've been hired within a week of his SD dismissal. He just turned 66 and has his ghosts, but he'd be doing us all a favor if he'd consent to come here. Everything he stands for is something this organization needs. He runs the ball, stops the run, constructs around LBs, hires quality assistants, prizes character, intelligence and toughness. A winner wherever he's been. Respects the game. Motivates. Knows the area and tradition. Brings national credibility. He is probably the one proven commodity who'd consider Cleveland.

By: Matt

Matt — Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:24:12 +0000

Oh, for sure, I'd make a run at Cowher. He'd be Candidate #1. But where do you turn for Candidate #2? I'm not sure Shanahan is up to rebuilding this mess. He's a bit old, and sour himself. Ditto with Holmgren. Frankly, Denver may have gotten the steal with our own local boy, McDaniels, who seems bright and energetic. And he's not a backstabber like Mangini. In fact, he's probably the anti-Mangini. If you can win with Kyle Orton and the Denver defense as a rookie head coach, you're showing something. Remember, that franchise was so awful, they felt they had to fire freakin' Mike Shanahan. Yet, the Broncos stand 3-0, the Browns 0-3.

Mr. Lerner, perhaps a few other interviews would've been a good idea?