Comments on: First and 10 … sort of … with the Browns http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2009/09/29/first-and-10-sort-of-with-the-browns/ Musings on the world of sports Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:17:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Lou http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2009/09/29/first-and-10-sort-of-with-the-browns/comment-page-1/#comment-7477 Lou Wed, 30 Sep 2009 15:13:49 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=4309#comment-7477 "Brian Robiskie has been spending his Sundays with Amelia Earhart." Classic. I'll go out on a limb and say that Mangini is teaching Robo a lesson. Nice that it is at the expense of the team. If this season is to get a feel for who is a Mangini guy and who is not why not play him and find out? I just don't get it. As you said, as bad as things are all people need/want is some hope. I'll take a glimmer - decent qb play or a few nice plays on defense or some decent tackling, etc. The bar is so low I'll take almost anything that isn't a penalty, turnover by the Browns or doesn't result in a touchdown against the Browns. With even a little success Mangini could play this whole onslaught as him against the rest of the NFL world and perhaps gain some fans among his detractors. Prove the critics wrong Mangini and we will support you. Anderson reportedly will get the start on Sunday. I have been an advocate of giving Quinn more time but will agree that Anderson is more entertaining to watch. I just want one to emerge as "the guy" and for the offense to get on track. Daboll needs to ditch the Sesame Street playbook though. "Brian Robiskie has been spending his Sundays with Amelia Earhart." Classic. I'll go out on a limb and say that Mangini is teaching Robo a lesson. Nice that it is at the expense of the team. If this season is to get a feel for who is a Mangini guy and who is not why not play him and find out? I just don't get it.

As you said, as bad as things are all people need/want is some hope. I'll take a glimmer – decent qb play or a few nice plays on defense or some decent tackling, etc. The bar is so low I'll take almost anything that isn't a penalty, turnover by the Browns or doesn't result in a touchdown against the Browns. With even a little success Mangini could play this whole onslaught as him against the rest of the NFL world and perhaps gain some fans among his detractors. Prove the critics wrong Mangini and we will support you.

Anderson reportedly will get the start on Sunday. I have been an advocate of giving Quinn more time but will agree that Anderson is more entertaining to watch. I just want one to emerge as "the guy" and for the offense to get on track. Daboll needs to ditch the Sesame Street playbook though.

]]> By: alan t. http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2009/09/29/first-and-10-sort-of-with-the-browns/comment-page-1/#comment-7464 alan t. Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:15:21 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=4309#comment-7464 Actually, a destroyed knee, steroids, various other drugs, and booze took Boston out of the league. It had nothing to do with lifting, and lifting has absolutely nothing to do with any of Quinn's problems. Quinn hasn't even tried throwing the ball deep. Dink, screen pass, dunk. A crazy Boston Terrier could toss the ball as far as Quinn has attempted, just bounce the ball off the dog's nose. Actually, a destroyed knee, steroids, various other drugs, and booze took Boston out of the league. It had nothing to do with lifting, and lifting has absolutely nothing to do with any of Quinn's problems. Quinn hasn't even tried throwing the ball deep. Dink, screen pass, dunk. A crazy Boston Terrier could toss the ball as far as Quinn has attempted, just bounce the ball off the dog's nose.

]]> By: Ron http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2009/09/29/first-and-10-sort-of-with-the-browns/comment-page-1/#comment-7461 Ron Wed, 30 Sep 2009 00:06:22 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=4309#comment-7461 I think Quinn is becoming David Boston too much lifting effecting his throwing motion Boston lifted his way out of the league I think Quinn is becoming David Boston too much lifting effecting his throwing motion Boston lifted his way out of the league

]]> By: alan t. http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2009/09/29/first-and-10-sort-of-with-the-browns/comment-page-1/#comment-7451 alan t. Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:46:40 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=4309#comment-7451 I strongly object to Mangini's Dierdorfian lisp. Lose the lisp, and the wins will come. I strongly object to Mangini's Dierdorfian lisp. Lose the lisp, and the wins will come.

]]> By: Tony http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2009/09/29/first-and-10-sort-of-with-the-browns/comment-page-1/#comment-7450 Tony Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:20:54 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=4309#comment-7450 can anyone say tim tebow here we come? can anyone say tim tebow here we come?

]]> By: boulin99 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2009/09/29/first-and-10-sort-of-with-the-browns/comment-page-1/#comment-7449 boulin99 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:55:10 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=4309#comment-7449 That's alot of vitriol towards Mangini. Reminds me of my feelings towards Quinn. But I was laughing at Dolphins fans for a year, because I thought they would be the idiots to take him. Mangini must be pretty hard on reporters. But that's ok with me (Belichick). This team needs to have hard weeks of practice. The NFL is home to the 1500 best football players in the universe. Maybe there are 50 guys out there who could produce better, and 50 guys who shouldn't be in the league. But not alot more. The only way you win is to fight for to be productive for every second you can - and to gain every yard of turf you can. It's fine and expected that this years team won't be good. The offense was completely impotent under Quinn. IMPOTENT. At no point did they threaten to score. The biggest danger opposing teams faced was punting or kicking off. It actually would make more sense to go for a 4th and 5 against the Quinn offense anywhere outside of their own 35, rather than punt. That's not vitriol. What team wouldn't give up when you are trying to plug the damn with a jar of mayonnaise? At least with Anderson there was some hope, and some fear in opposing defenses. This should be a hard week, but the team should have a little more hope. I'm fine with this full season of Mangini, a second draft, and a last or near last-place schedule in 2010. Joy comes from winning. But satisfaction comes from building, and the process thereof. That's alot of vitriol towards Mangini. Reminds me of my feelings towards Quinn. But I was laughing at Dolphins fans for a year, because I thought they would be the idiots to take him.

Mangini must be pretty hard on reporters. But that's ok with me (Belichick).

This team needs to have hard weeks of practice. The NFL is home to the 1500 best football players in the universe. Maybe there are 50 guys out there who could produce better, and 50 guys who shouldn't be in the league. But not alot more. The only way you win is to fight for to be productive for every second you can – and to gain every yard of turf you can. It's fine and expected that this years team won't be good.

The offense was completely impotent under Quinn. IMPOTENT. At no point did they threaten to score. The biggest danger opposing teams faced was punting or kicking off. It actually would make more sense to go for a 4th and 5 against the Quinn offense anywhere outside of their own 35, rather than punt. That's not vitriol. What team wouldn't give up when you are trying to plug the damn with a jar of mayonnaise?

At least with Anderson there was some hope, and some fear in opposing defenses.

This should be a hard week, but the team should have a little more hope. I'm fine with this full season of Mangini, a second draft, and a last or near last-place schedule in 2010.

Joy comes from winning. But satisfaction comes from building, and the process thereof.

]]> By: David http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2009/09/29/first-and-10-sort-of-with-the-browns/comment-page-1/#comment-7448 David Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:42:58 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=4309#comment-7448 What a mess! This is worse than 99 as at least there were no expectations of winning more than 1 or 2 games and now here we are 11 seasons later and expecting the same, no more than 1 or 2 games won-maybe! I am sick, just sick-Modell, you suck! This is what the best most loyal, die hard fans deserve? How many players, coaches and OWNER came out and made a public statement to the fans, in terms of 'our" owner- "I am as sick of losing as you are, and no matter what it takes, either I personally or someone with superior football knowledge will turn this ship around.. and fast, if not, I give you my word, I will sell your/my "beloved' Browns for the sake of you, the fans that have had your hearts ripped out for so many years under my watch, and for that I apologize! From this point forward everyone from the ball boy to the GM will be held accountable, and if we do not see any improvement, this year, I will not hesitate to make changes even now. Browns fans, I sympathize and will never let the best fans on the planet left the laughingstock of the league! Love, Randy "oh, crap, my plane leaves for London in an hour-gotta go!' What a mess! This is worse than 99 as at least there were no expectations of winning more than 1 or 2 games and now here we are 11 seasons later and expecting the same, no more than 1 or 2 games won-maybe! I am sick, just sick-Modell, you suck! This is what the best most loyal, die hard fans deserve? How many players, coaches and OWNER came out and made a public statement to the fans, in terms of 'our" owner- "I am as sick of losing as you are, and no matter what it takes, either I personally or someone with superior football knowledge will turn this ship around.. and fast, if not, I give you my word, I will sell your/my "beloved' Browns for the sake of you, the fans that have had your hearts ripped out for so many years under my watch, and for that I apologize! From this point forward everyone from the ball boy to the GM will be held accountable, and if we do not see any improvement, this year, I will not hesitate to make changes even now.
Browns fans, I sympathize and will never let the best fans on the planet left the laughingstock of the league!
Love, Randy
"oh, crap, my plane leaves for London in an hour-gotta go!'

]]> By: Drew http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2009/09/29/first-and-10-sort-of-with-the-browns/comment-page-1/#comment-7447 Drew Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:18:11 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=4309#comment-7447 As I have stated many times before, GAMBLING IS ILLEGAL. But boy, if I had bet on the Ravens last weekend, and I would have if gambling was legal, I would have won a lot of money. On a related note, the Browns open at +5.5. If anyone reading this lives in Vegas, or is going there, I suggest you take your house note and put it on the Bengals. Because, you know, you can't do that in Ohio. As I have stated many times before, GAMBLING IS ILLEGAL. But boy, if I had bet on the Ravens last weekend, and I would have if gambling was legal, I would have won a lot of money.

On a related note, the Browns open at +5.5. If anyone reading this lives in Vegas, or is going there, I suggest you take your house note and put it on the Bengals. Because, you know, you can't do that in Ohio.

]]> By: Matt http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2009/09/29/first-and-10-sort-of-with-the-browns/comment-page-1/#comment-7446 Matt Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:59:11 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=4309#comment-7446 ALL DONE with the Browns. They will no longer monopolize my Sunday afternoons. Life's too short. Lerner and Mangini wanna be stubborn and ram crap down our throats? No reason we have to even bat an eye. The team gets a big "A" in my book: Apathy. ALL DONE with the Browns. They will no longer monopolize my Sunday afternoons. Life's too short. Lerner and Mangini wanna be stubborn and ram crap down our throats? No reason we have to even bat an eye. The team gets a big "A" in my book: Apathy.

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