Comments on: Quinn deserves time, but he also needs to play better

By: alan t.

alan t. — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 03:40:57 +0000

Uh … Dan. Bernie Kosar and his gas-powered bread chainsaw went to exactly the same number of Pro Bowls as that guy Ozzie Newsome "kicked to the curb." How is it relevant to anything that Anderson was drafted in the 6th round? So what? Kinda silly to even bring it up, don't you think? In what round was Tom Brady drafted? How many touchdowns did Anderson not get because a guy dropped the ball, and how many interceptions were caused because some goof ran the wrong route? And who cares if he originally lost the job to Chaz Frye? I'd question the moron who made the original choice that Frye was better than Anderson. Steve Young eventually beat out Joe Montana. Would it have made you feel better if he beat out Mike Phipps' daughter? Who cares who originally beat out Anderson? Who cares in what round he was drafted? Who cares what their college records were? If you want to bring up college, Quinn had more losses as a Notre Dame quarterback than any other Notre Dame quarterback preceding him in Notre Dame's history. So what?

Seriously, if somebody is going to knock Anderson, at least have the courtesy to yank something relevant out of the caboose.

By: Al Dumas

Al Dumas — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:51:04 +0000

open the offence up go down the field I AM TIRED OF SEEING DINK AND DUNK FOOTBALL lets go for it win or lose thats why I respected Bill Cower we had balls

By: Dan

Dan — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:00:42 +0000

"The players want to win and they can see a guy on the bench that can win some games."

Yep. True. They see a guy on the bench who threw 8 TDs and 9 INTs last season. Woohoo! A guy who only 2 years ago was beaten out for the QB job out of camp by Charlie Frye (3rd string QB – OAK). A guy who has been beaten out by a guy who held a clipboard most of the past 2 seasons. A guy who led his college team to records of 8-5, 7-5, and 8-6. Diminishing skills. Nope. Never had the skills of a champion. A guy who was a 6th round draft choice a few years ago, and was kicked to the curb by a pretty good judge of talent – Ozzie Newsome.

Leave Quinn alone. He'll be fine.

By: Joe

Joe — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:33:47 +0000

Don't take too long with Quinn's "development". The longer it goes on the more it hurts the rest of the team. Edwards didn't learn to run patterns with Frye's sandlot style and the rookie receivers won't be served by Quinn at his current rate. There's been plenty written about the culture of losing with the Browns. "Seeing what we've got with Quinn", as so many want to do may only add to it. The players want to win and they can see a guy on the bench that can win some games.

By: alan t.

alan t. — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:34:45 +0000

Yes, Matt, her pair of boob is really fake. http://xr.com/40y

By: William

William — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:03:58 +0000

Quinn's situation goes way beyond not having a "ready made team" to slide into. At this point he has a NO TALENT team where he just survives to play another day. No running game, half an offensive line and one pro-quality receiver that makes catches if the spirit happens to move him that day. I suspect the uber-conservative play calling is the coaching staff hoping to steal a win by not losing the game with turnovers and praying for the other team to self destruct. What choice do they have? I just hope Brady survives with all his marbles and not have to use a walker at the end of this season.

By: Joe V.

Joe V. — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:58:47 +0000

@Jason,
At least Quinn put up numbers against the service academies. That's more than you can say for Terelle Pryor.

By: Rick

Rick — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:33:55 +0000

Here's the thing…whether Quinn is a NFL caliber QB or not, we will never know in Cleveland. Since the team has come back to the NFL in 1999, its a joke from the top down. Carmen Policy/Dwight Clark set the franchise back decades by the looks of it. For them, winning the PR battle was more than winning on the field.

The thing I always debate with my friends about when it comes to Browns QB's is this…guys like Tom Brady, Roethlisberger are in some circles listed as top 5 QB's in football today. Had Brady been a 5th round pick for Cleveland, there's a very good chance he'd never have been heard from again once his time in Cleveland was done. And even if another team picked him up, a good team, he wouldn't be a 3 time SB champion, wouldn't have name recognition that a Giselle Bundchen would want to meet and then be with him. Ben Roethlisberger in Cleveland? No way there are 2 SB's in his career, wouldn't have the name recognition that a motel clerk decides this is the guy I'm gonna say raped me, none of that in his life.

You guys who say DA sucks, or Brady will never lead the Browns anywhere…well, no SB winning QB in HISTORY would have taken these Browns over the last 10 years to any consistent respectable level. But had any of them been in Cleveland over the last 10 years, there would be countless people saying they don't deserve the starting QB gig for Cleveland cuz they suck.

I'm not saying put Tim Couch or Spergeon Wynn on NE and either one of them would have 3 SB victories cuz there have been bad personnel decisions too. With Couch, there is absolutely no reason the Browns shouldn't have taken the whole Saints draft in trade so Ditka could draft Ricky Williams and we could draft a team. But then again, we would have needed a strong personnel guy to make those decisions, not Policy/Clark.

Those saying Mangini is an idiot for trading down and not drafting Sanchez need to take a step back and look at the whole picture. While it looks pretty good that Mangini is an idiot, the same lot of you would be calling him an idiot for drafting Sanchez instead of a LB with that pick because Sanchez would not have come close to 2 wins in his 1st 2 starts with the Browns and chances are good he'd be looking quite as pathetic as Quinn has these 2 games.

By: Matt

Matt — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:33:17 +0000

You're overthinkin' it, Alan. Is her pair of boob really fake?

Anyone else here really tired of the supposed "Parcells tree?" If Romeo and Mangini are the apples, they fell far from the tree of success. I can't stand control freaks, and I'm guessing the ego-laden NFL players can't either.

I'll fully blame the Browns for letting Brady Quinn rot for 2+ years. If anyone EVER tries to sell us the bogus "let him watch and learn on the sidelines" shtick again, I'll go berserk. We wasted two years. Now we've got a guy who hasn't seen real action trying to turn things around. And he looks horrible. I love Brady. Love his movie star looks, his mag cover, his work ethic. But either he's been ruined, or he truly cannot play at this level. Not til I see marked improvement.

By: alan t.

alan t. — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:41:02 +0000

"SI.com’s Ross Tucker pointed out that Flacco and Sanchez were one of a few quarterbacks to hit the jackpot on draft day." Was this correct English, or was this written incorrectly? Seriously, I want to know, I honestly don't know the answer. Anybody with a doctorate in English out there? I'm thinking it should it have been "Flacco and Sanchez were *two* of a few quarterbacks to hit the jackpot on draft day," but I might be wrong. A singular and plural mix-up? larry d. is usually pretty good at analyzing these things. Perhaps it was akin to writing something like, "Pat was really mesmerized and enjoys staring at the huge pair of Courteney Cox's big fake boob," but I don't know. Somebody help me out here.