Comments on: First and 10: How woeful are my brownies?

By: alan t.

alan t. — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:39:25 +0000

I realize this has absolutely nothing to do with the awful football team in town, but I just finished reading this. See ya, LeBron. http://xr.com/3rit

By: alan t.

alan t. — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:28:32 +0000

Why all the complaints about the pants? Well, for one, I was unaware that Stevie Wonder and the late Ray Charles were Browns fans. Shaun Rogers wasn't svelte before, but now he looks like he's waddling around carrying a litter of 12 bulldogs in a bag.

Even these clownish 1979 jerseys look better, but who in real life wears bright orange with little stripes? They look like Helen Keller's pajamas. But they still look better than bulbous brown pants. In fact, Art Modell had the right idea. Unless they finally come up with a design that actually works, they should just ditch the color scheme altogether and play nude. http://bit.ly/4a9cR8

By: Chicago_Brown

Chicago_Brown — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:23:31 +0000

Maybe we can have Hawk take Jim Dononvan's place and start announcing games. At least we could laugh when he called Brady's weak lame ducks a "can 'o corn" and told Braylon to "grab some bench" after another drop.

By: ClayMatthewsSchoolforLaterals

ClayMatthewsSchoolforLaterals — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:58:54 +0000

Why all the complaints about the pants? I think it's great that there is more color, brown & burnt orange, in the uniforms, now. It was rare that the old Browns wore anything except white on white, with brown and orange trim. In 1980 they had brown jerseys and orange pants, and it looked great! When he was with the Indians, Ken Harrelson said that he would rather be hitting .220 and look great, than be seen on the field in baggy pants. If we're going to suffer through bad football, we should at least have Cleveland Browns, in brown.

By: Chicago_Brown

Chicago_Brown — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:13:44 +0000

Pat, I understand the frustration with Mangini. But, I think we should also consider the damage Phil Savage did during his short time as GM. His drafts were abysmal and he traded away very valuable picks for underachieving players. The Shaun Rogers deal was great but his overall performance left alot to be desired. The jury is still out on Brady but if he fails then I think we can officially say the Savage era was a complete bust. He was too overconfident in his scouting abilities and reached on too many players. Even Cowher would struggle to win with this team.

By: drew

drew — Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:44:08 +0000

Pat, do you dye your goatee to get that perfect shade of grey versus red contrast? Or is it gray? I never get that one correct.

By: alan t.

alan t. — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:44:31 +0000

Yes, I agree. A line was crossed. We must punish the registered sex offender, who, in the name of good character, we nobly went out of our way to acquire from our old Jets squad when we pawned off Mark Sanchez, for the egregious act of swiping from the Sheraton mini-bar a plastic bottle filled with purified Hudson River liquid. That's not good character. And to make darned sure you've learned your lesson, Mr. Perv, we're not fining you $1,700.00. That would be letting you off too easy. It's $1,701.00. Not a dollar less. No soup for you!

By: dwhit

dwhit — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:22:38 +0000

I refuse to get upset about Mangini dolling out fines for players who don't follow the rules. How is taking a $3 bottle of water from a hotel room without paying different than shoplifting or stealing? Is someone who works for the team going to have to deal with the hotel when stuff (even as inconsequential as a bottle of water) goes missing, instead of spending their time doing something that's perhaps a bit more valuable? Fine him I say… lesson learned.

The same goes with showing up to places on-time. Club Romeo is closed. If you're late you're wasting the entire team's time. That deserves a fine too. If we don't have the skill to win games (or even play very well for that matter) the least Mangini could do is get rid of the crap culture that exists with this team. (Now could we have brought in a coach more equipped to do that AND win games, perhaps, but that's a different argument.) I'm certainly not going to pile on Mangini for trying to get the team to be smarter and behave the way we would want our employees to behave if we were running a business.

I understand that we haven't seen any of this translate into wins yet, and there's plenty about the team to be angry about, but I just fail to believe that this is one of those things.

By: Elizabeth

Elizabeth — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 18:35:16 +0000

Changing the quarterback isn't the automatic fix that a lot of people thought it would be – same with the coach. I don't blame Quinn in the least – nor did I ever hold Anderson responsible for the futility of 2008. How many sacks has the offensive line given up since 1999? Bet the Browns lead the league in that category. Who are the WRs, the RBs, the TEs?
I work for a control-freak, so I can sympathize with the Browns. There's setting the tone and getting everyone on the same page and then there is being completely rigid that nothing gets accomplished and people resent you. Yes – demand that they're disciplined, but pick your spots.
I totally believe this weekend could be the turnaround – I just hope the players make the most of the opportunity.