Comments on: Brady Quinn and the Browns offense

By: geddy

geddy — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:45:35 +0000

Seriously, does anyone doubt at this point that Mangini will be lining up at the same buffet with Romeo Crennel within a few years as Lerner quickly selects a new GM and coach after an exhaustive 20 minute search?

By: Clint

Clint — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:22:56 +0000

You guys all wanna bring up Roethlisberger, Sanchez, Flacco, Ryan! They've all got the benefit of a great defense, a solid running game to take pressure off them! Flacco still was babied along. So was Ben Roethlisberger when he won 15 games as a rookie. People don't use their heads. We are the way we are for a reason, many reasons. This didn't get this way overnight, and it isn't going to fix itself overnight. It's going to take time. If the Browns are patient with Quinn, QB will no longer be a concern for the organization or the fans. He will put forth a performance that is steady and consistent.

By: Elizabeth

Elizabeth — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:10:50 +0000

I guess I should just get to the basis of my overall point when it comes to the Browns: its going to take more than a quarterback to turn this around.

Here's something else I've been wondering: will there ever be a point this season when the control-freak mentality is tossed aside? I understand that maybe its in overdrive for a lot of reasons (get the players back on track from the country club days with Romeo, disciple of Billy, trying to set the tone in a new city) but maybe a couple wins, maybe a little flexibility?

By: Matt

Matt — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:02:07 +0000

So everyone seems to feel that those other teams' QBs were successful because "they had help." Okay, I'll go along. But Mangini came in here and turned over nearly 1/2 of the roster. Are we saying that his pieces-n-parts STINK? Or just his scheme? And if it's the roster that stinks, just how are we supposed to get better? Thru the draft? Ha! We passed up talent left and right to trade down, down, down. Free agents? Ha! Haven't you read/heard the report that agents are steering their clients *away* from the Browns and Mangini's dictatorship?

Dudes, it's either try to open things up and win with this group, or be prepared for a long, drawn-out, wheels-in-the-mud grind to perhaps mediocrity. Frankly, I can see us finishing with the worst record in the NFL and Tim Tebow on this team next April. (Ahh, but of course, he'll have to sit and learn under Quinn, then play in a stifling offense that won't utilize his skills, either.)

By: Rich G.

Rich G. — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:33:58 +0000

hmmm…Sanchez, Rothesberger, Flacco, and Ryan had help.

Rothesberger… had a stifling defense that gave him wondeful field position and two dominate RBs, so all he did was hand the ball off as a QB.
Ryan…same situation as Rothesburger.
Flacco…had the number one RB in the NFL and the schedule they played was weak.
Sanchez..has done nothing as of yet. He can't be included to hel plays in the playoffs.

By: Rich G.

Rich G. — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:28:40 +0000

It could be looked at in so many different ways. If Quinn could move the chains and it takes fifteen plays and he scores. He accomplishes many things, the opponents defense is gets tired and he controls the clock, his defense is rested. I personally prefer a team that controls the ball by possesion. Yes its ugly football, but just ask the Buffalo Bills what happens when you give a team too much time on the clock.

By: Elizabeth

Elizabeth — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:25:26 +0000

Yes Jason, but don't Sanchez, Ryan, Roethlesberger and Flacco have some help on the offense?

But were under Belicheck-lite, which might be the bigger problem.

By: Jason

Jason — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 14:21:30 +0000

Sanchez didn't do much crawling with the Jets.
Ryan didn't do much crawling with the Falcons.
Roethlesberger didn't do much crawling with the Steelers.
Flacco didn't do much crawling with the Ravens.

I'm just sayin'….why is it okay for OTHER teams around the league to insert a raw rookie into their lineup and WIN immediately, but the Browns feel we're better off having OUR qb stand-and-watch for two seasons, then go in and crawl some more?

There's something fundamentally WRONG about the way this team has operated for the past 25 years.

By: Elizabeth

Elizabeth — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:44:49 +0000

If I hear "grinding" or "separating" from him, I'll toss my cookies… I got into sports to escape all the thesaurus abuse from my so-called professional life.

Its only been one game and maybe (not holding my breath) once Brady gets some success and some wins under his belt – establishes some kind of clout with Mangini – maybe he'll be allowed to go off the script once in a while.
For now – with a new system, new coach, etc. – I don't really mind the "by the book" approach. You've got to crawl before you can run.

By: Marc

Marc — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:44:08 +0000

In other words, we can expect to see a predictable, boring, stagnant offense. You know, like the one that scored zero touchdowns for nearly 7 consecutive games.

Do you know why so many people hopped on the D.A. bandwagon? Because the offense in '07 was wide-open and scored a lot of points. It wasn't the bland, boring, losing approach we saw prior to and following '07. Fans are so turned off by boring football, it's very hard to watch. Mangini seems to insist upon it. And it will be to his detriment, as the fans find other things to do on Sundays and this team progresses no further than a typical "checkdown" pass travels.