First and 10
1) A few folks who e-mailed thought I was a tad negative in Monday's Beacon Journal. That the Browns led at halftime and that they pretty much did what was expected — lose to Minnesota. This means, of course, that folks e-mailed negative thoughts about me being negative. And my first thought is to wonder if it's negative if it's merely the truth. That being said, there is a danger to "pile on," and I try to be aware of it and sensitive to it. Perhaps I was a tad … shall we say … less than positive. But what I saw was a team that lost 34-20 and scored one touchdown on a punt return and another in the most meaningless of circumstances. If folks want to hang their feel-good hat on that kind of game, have at it. It just didn’t work for me.
2) This could be a case of the proverbial half-full or half-empty glass. The half-full view says that the Browns were expected to lose, were not expected to defend the run well and were facing a tough defense. Because of that, going into the locker room at halftime with a lead means they did fairly well. The half empty view says that all the same is true of the pregame expectations, which means that the Browns had a golden opportunity at halftime. But in the second half they let the opportunity drop and splat like it was a dozen eggs. Either view is valid.
3) The first half belonged to the Browns because their defense did a nice job confusing the Vikings. Credit Rob Ryan for this, because his different looks and ability to pressure Brett Favre were causing problems. Too, the Vikings were not running the ball consistently well. In the second half, the Vikings decided to ride the best player on the field, and Adrian Peterson ran them to a win.
4) This is where the concern comes in. Of course the season is not over because of one loss, and a win in Denver balances the record, which is what it's about. But the first real game gave the Browns their first chance to show they had solved some of the concerns, specifically the run defense. The Vikings shredded the run defense. Folks can say all they want that Peterson should shred a run defense, but when a team runs for 225 yards on the defense it's cause for concern.
5) I like Brady Quinn. He once held a door for me at Panera. Nice guy, good guy. But his play did not do much for me. Yes … it was only one game, against a good defense. There's no reason to give up on him, just that in that one game (against a very good defense) he did not seem real effective.
6) As for the last touchdown drive that led to a score with 30 seconds left … we are not talking about an expansion team here. In 1999, those things mattered because the Browns were learning to put their shoes on. This is 2009, 11 years into a ""re-birth." Quinn is in his third season, albeit with a different system than a year ago. Braylon Edwards went to a Pro Bowl two years ago. It’s a new coach, new system, but the standards for judging them shouldn't make it as if they're grade schoolers learning to play. If that last drive means a lot, then we're all in for a longer year than we thought. Had Derek Anderson (who had a pretty fair first start, as I recall) played the same game Quinn played, folks would be taking him to the guillotine. Heck …. Mark Sanchez in his first start in New York threw for 272 yards and went 12-for-16 on third down. Joe Flacco is in his second season and he threw for (307) in the first game. How do these things happen everywhere in the NFL but with the Browns?
7) To say that Quinn did not throw down the field before the game was settled is not exactly accurate. He did take a couple shots. But the kinds of throws he made down the field were of the same blasé variety — receiver runs deep down the sideline and the quarterback lofts him a deep one. This almost worked in the first half, as Braylon Edwards made a nice catch after being interfered with. But other than those sideline throws, most of the passes were underneath. The reality is that of Quinn's 21 completions, 13 went to backs or tight ends. I remember very few posts, skinny or otherwise, very few crossing routes, very few 20-yard turn-ins.
8) I don't know if Quinn is that kind of quarterback or if he's being coached to do that kind of thing. You know the line — don't force the ball … take what's there … buy low, sell high … all that stuff. At times it makes sense. But when a quarterback does that over and over again, the defense starts to squeeze the field, which makes running the ball pretty difficult. Again, I don't know where it's coming from, and I don't know if it's an issue given the strength of the Vikings defense. As the season progresses, we'll discover if it's an issue. But I do know that Quinn is gaining a reputation as an underneath guy, one who will not take chances. Whether that's fair after just four NFL starts is a legitimate question.
9) Put it this way: The best player on the Browns offense Sunday was probably Joe Thomas, who more than held his own against Jared Allen. But the best skill player was Jamal Lewis, who ran and caught for 104 yards. Lewis looked pretty effective, making those who wondered about his future look kinda dumb. Like me. But Quinn and Edwards are first-round picks. There are two other second-round picks at receiver whom we hardly saw. Robert Royal is wildly inconsistent in terms of catching the ball. Josh Cribbs is as good as they get in the return game, but as a receiver the judge and jury are out. Tough defense, yes, but the response to the tough defense was pretty meek.
10) I'm starting to wonder if Edwards has checked out. To the Northern peninsula in Michigan. He had six passes thrown his way Sunday (including the pass interference). There was one catch (would have been two without the interference, which was caused by an underthrow from Quinn), one pass interference. His one catch totaled 12 yards. Oh … he also had two penalties that cost the Browns 15 yards.
And a bonus 11th since it was opening day …
11) As for being negative, I'd say that of course the season isn't over. The Browns have 15 games to make something of things. They need to win this weekend in Denver because winning in Baltimore looks tough, and the last thing they need is to return home at oh-and-three. Denver isn't much offensively, but the Broncos did show they can play defense in their opener. The season is absolutely not over. But the problem is this: The Browns did not show much of anything in their opener to make anyone believe the problems that existed last year and heading into this year have been solved. If anything, the opening game loss only confirmed that the worries were valid. Until the Browns show they've solved some things — like the run defense — the concerns and criticism will be present. Eric Mangini is right — it's pretty much up to them.
Three and Out
Where you, the dear readers, take the floor — and generally tell me what an idiot I am, have been and will be.
Dear Pat,
A word to the wise.
I follow the Browns, as I have since I was 14. I am now 59. The world is a difficult place. I have laid off 75 people in my company, and read sports as an escape. Telling me how bad the Cleveland Browns are is not what I want to read. Do not take yourself too seriously or people may stop reading your work and you might have to find another line of work.
Remember this is the toy department, not the real world.
Lighten UP,
Frank Lemmo
Dear Frank,
The Browns should be grateful for loyal fans like you. It's people like you who continually fill the stadium despite 10 years of struggles.
As for me … if you know me at all you'll know I really don't take myself too seriously. I know we're not curing cancer here. Too, the folks who read this flog regularly know I don't take much seriously at all. Except for Frito's corn chips, which always must be taken seriously.
I might offer, though, that I might lose what little credibility I have if I start to write that things were good when I thought they were bad. That might really turn us into the toy department.
I also might offer that the problem isn't with the person reporting what happened, or offering his opinion on it. We all know what opinions are like; you can agree or disagree. The problem is that since 1999 the Browns have not put a representative product on the field, and the opener did little to indicate 2009 will be different.
Yes, there's a lot of time left. But the opener was what it was.
Dear Pat,
I like your work but couldn't read more then half of the article in Monday's Beacon-Journal. Couldn't you be any more negative then that?
I've been a diehard browns fan for 40 years. I thought they played well in the first half. The wheels got blown off in the second half by a superior team. I feared the whole game was going to be like the second half but it wasn't. I saw some good things early and I haven't seen anything good since the Giants game last year. I think the Browns can learn and build off what they did in both halves. After last season and this Indians season, the team I saw in the first half was a welcome sight.
Russ Clark
Las Vegas
Dear Russ,
Are you related to the gentleman I met in Ireland. He's a Harrington, like my grandmother, and he always referred to himself as "Dan R." Take care, Dan, I said when I left. "Dan R," he said.
Dan R might agree with you, by the way.
Unfortunately, I do not.
I think we've seen so much bad football that when we see a glimmer of hope the tendency is to make too much of it. The first half was OK, but last I checked games are two halves.
It'd be nice to think this team will turn things around in a hurry. I just didn't see it in the opener.
Dear Pat,
Woody Hayes once wrote a book, "You Win With People". After watching this year's edition of the step-browns I think Mangini can write a book called "You Lose with Nobodies". Other than Brady Quinn there is no one on this team that anyone has ever heard of.
Keep this e-mail. If they win the 6 games that you predicted I'll have a case of your favorite beer delivered to your office. You don't have to risk anything.
Frank Webb
Akron
Dear Frank,
You're on.
But the bet includes plane tickets to Ireland, because the favorite beer is Guinness, on tap, seated at Connaughton's pub on Achill Island.
Hey … you offered.
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Two points here:
First, it just drives me absolutely crazy when folks talk about "I've been a Browns fan for the last 165 years," or whatever. No, you haven't. You've been a Browns fan for the last 165 years like you've been a Titans and Texans fan for the last 165 years. Stop it. You've been a Browns Mark II fan for the last 10 years. That's it. 10 years. Stop it. I implore you.
Second, I'd say ol' Frank Lemmo takes his sports too seriously, it's not the inebriated Irishman who takes his sports too seriously. Movies are an "escape," too, but who doesn't like to read a Blitzkrieg of a bad film? In fact, in Northeast Ohio it's refreshing to read blunt opinions, especially with all the ass-kissing since that knucklehead Ferry and the casino-waving Gilbert rode into town, and since attacking the people who run the Indians has become the fan sport, not the underlying baseball being played beneath it.
If you don't like bad football, then don't read about it. It is what it is, and writing anything else would be a complete cop-out. But on the bright side for you, I see ESPN is starting local websites all over the country and stealing the sportswriters from the local newspapers. So you'll only have to put up with it for a few more years, when ESPN Cleveland rides into town and closes up the Beacon Journal and the Plain Dealer for good.
But in the meantime, if you enjoy happy neutered football opinion (I mean, other than reading about drunk and stoned football guys running over guys without green cards and GMs telling people to eff themselves and fat head coaches setting up shop in something resembling Hitler's bunker), then there's always a good team to read about and the Internet can take your eyes all over the world. I don't know a damn thing about the English Premiere League, but I'm sure there's something over there to peruse for a happy escape. Hey, here's something: skip to around the 9:00 mark or so, and then watch the next couple of minutes A happy in your face celebration telling the fans to bite him hard and to go to hell. http://bit.ly/4oTkea
Pat,
wow-1st game-new season-new regime-new QB-new O-coordinator-new D-coordinator-new players – same players buying into-learning new system, playing what is considered to be a Superbowl contender in the 1st GAME!! I chose to look at the good-I saw an attacking and aggressive defense in the 1st half -I saw some unique (although not as effective as hoped) play calling on Offense…all said…it's the 1st stinking game!!!! Give them at least 4 games before flushing the coach-team and season down the toilet..maybe I am an eternal Browns fan but I saw some very good things never before seen the previous Romeo years!! I will never give up! I really believe we will be a respectable team by week 4 to 6 into the season-maybe then possibly already out of any playoff hope but enough optimism for the next year-say it again fans -"NEXT YEAR" I am tired too…
Really Pat, we're calling out Braylon Edwards already? There was plenty that went wrong without attacking the media's consistent fall guy. Yes he was targeted 6 times, no he couldn't do much more than he did, catching the one pass for 12 yards. In fact he made a heckuva a play on the "Pass Interference" play but unfortunately was unable to establish himself back in bounds.
I'm sorry, come back to me when he starts dropping passes (which honestly I'm sure we'll see plenty of as the season goes on) but after that game I just don't feel like there's any reason to knock on BE's effort or excusing him of checking out.
Um, *accusing* him of checking out I mean.
Yes, you are too negative. Yes, you're right its also only the first game of the season. So save your knives and darts for mid-season and let the record of the Browns speak for itself.
Minnesota was favored by 7, and for all intents and purposes they won by 21. Define "too negative."
Correction. By game-time, Minnesota was favored by different books by 3 1/2 to 4 1/2. For all intents and purposes they won by 21. Define "too negative."
Three thoughts here:
1. Alan apparently isn't aware of the signed agreement, where the NFL awarded the city of Cleveland an expansion franchise and also said, in legally binding terms, that the franchise would have the right to the name "Browns", the colors and the records, etc.. So you can say you have been a Browns fan since 1946, just as Barack Obama can say he is a natural-born citizen of the united States, even though his father was not born in the US.
(If he has forgotten, this might be a concern. Loss of short-term memory is usually a sign of excessive steroid use.)
2. My take on the game offensively is somewhat harsher than Pat's. My theory is that the halftime lead can be attributed to the amount of crack cocaine available in the Greater Cleveland area:
A. The Browns scored a field goal because Brad Childress (under in influence of Bolivian Marching Powder) decided to try an onside kick. I can understand the logic to some degree "I have a good defense, they have a terrible offense, how much can this hurt me?" (The alternative explanation was that he lost at Truth or Dare.)
B. The Browns scored a touchdown because the Vikings' kicking teams are atrocious, and the unit's coach (also doing rock) directed his punter to kick it to Josh Cribbs.
C. They scored a field goal because the defensive back decided to commit a penalty on Braylon Edwards, rather than (a) intercept the underthrown ball or (b) let him alone and permit him to drop it. (You know that guy was on crack)
D. They scored a touchdown on the NFL's version of a two word expression that dates back to my college days and begins with the word "mercy."
3. Defensively? At halftime, Brett Favre had dropped back to pass 14 times, and Adrian Peterson had 9 attempts– three against a goal-line defense.More proof that Childress was on crack.
Exactly one of Peterson's carries came in the second quarter.
After the first half– when someone apparently performed an intervention–Peterson had 16 touches to Favre's 11.
4. Speaking of inept performances, I rather like the "13 touches producing 37 net yards" (11 passes for 47 yards and two sacks for -10) that the Cleveland QB put up in the first half.
Coupled with the "3 touches for 13 yards (and one INT)" in the third quarter, that means Garo Ypremian, Jr. went 12-21 for 145 yards after the Vikings went up by two scores.
5. That said, Pat, I recently received an e-mail that I believe sums up the feelings of many fans:
"I don't get everything they did, but I have to hope they know what they're doing. I figure they deserve a chance, and some benefit of the doubt. This may work out. It also may not. I have no idea. But I do know if it doesn't it will probably cost the front office their jobs."
Being that KokMan has coached all of one game for the Browns, and they inherited a rat's nest from Romeo Crennel, maybe you could take those sentiments to heart?
Coach Sam Rutigliano made an excellent point last night on the Point After . Because of the QB competition Brady and Anderson only had about 31 passes each in 4 preseason games ,this is not enough to gel with your receivers . There were several teams that also had one as well,I would be curious to see how they faired Sunday as well. But his point was it will take a couple of games for all of them to get on the same page.
Hopefully when Womack come back in a week or 2 the front line will improve even more. I would also try to find a way to put Fraley in as a guard like they spoke of earlier in the preseason. They still have the long snapper as a backup.
It's not rocket science. Mangini cost us any chance of winning this game by not choosing a starting QB from the get-go, and allowing him to play, play, play with the first-teamers, develop chemistry, timing and awareness. An in Brady's case, just PLAY in game situations. He's been rusting on the sidelines for two years now.
Funny how the Jets immediately place their rookie QB in the starting lineup, and…victory! But in Cleveland? No, never! That's not profitable! Gotta sit, stand and watch for years before you're "ready." That's complete CRAP.
No, Geoff, I was aware of that, but thank you for reminding me. Aside from the utter ridiculousness of that part of the agreement just to appease the nimrods (yes, everybody knows that Art Modell and Al Davis and Jerry Jones had a secret agreement to get their grubby little hands on the name, the colors and the records … not.) it's two different franchises, two different teams, two different record books, two different stadiums, one team gets staph infections and the other doesn't, two different everything. The Titans are not the Texans, the Texans are not the Titans, the Bobcats are not the Hornets, the Hornets are not the Bobcats, the Cleveland Browns of 1950 are not the Cleveland Rams of 1945 nor the St. Louis Rams nor the St. Louis Cardinals.
STOP IT! Jim Brown's records have absolutely NOTHING to do with Jamal Lewis' 35 seconds it takes him to step on the accelerator. The woefulness of the last 10 years has nothing to do with the mediocrity of the first 45. STOP IT!
Thank you. Drive through.
Marc, that's a cop-out excuse. Quinn has had plenty of time to do everything. Plenty of repetition. Mangini's James Bond thing with the quarterbacks was imbecilic, but it had nothing to do with the performance of any of the players this past Sunday.
I also hate the excuse of blaming "different systems," the same way Terry Pluto always apologized for Drew Gooden because Gooden had to have 62 different head coaches. I mean, think about it. Everybody has changes at work. We all deal with it, stumble over stuff for the first several weeks until it starts to get comfortable. The players have training camp and exhibition games. By the time the regular season starts, there should be zero excuses. Either you know the new system at work, or you've been too lazy to learn about it and/or just haven't been paying attention and/or you're just a stupid person with little brain capacity to learn new things.
4 sacks in game one as opposed to 17 for all of last year…
Pat, I wish you would take your drunken Irish butt to a Pub in Ireland accompanied by your buddy, Alan T, and stay there, arguing with other shanty Irish drunks about soccer until Alan gets punched out. Be as negative as you want, it's ok…..I just don't like either of you. Your Abbott and Costello act is getting tiresome!
I usually think of them as more of a Ren & Stimpy team, with Pat as the big, dumb one, and Alan as the manic, aggressive one. (Example: Stimpy – "Help, Ren, help"
Ren – "Breathe, stupid, you forgot to breathe!)
Joyce B., really. I know very little about the female anatomy and I'm no pharmacist, but don't they make PMS pills?
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