Comments on: The Indians trade Cliff Lee

By: alan t.

alan t. — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:14:58 +0000

If Pat were Terry Pluto, his words would be in verses and he'd be praying like a madman.

By: will

will — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 10:28:54 +0000

How in the world do you still have a job as a writer, McMANorMORON. Maybe I should be asking your employers.
First, you aren't Terry Pluto. Stop trying to be a folksy version of him. As far as the folksiness, it just is boring. People don't want sentences, where the subject is left out. People don't want to read about your life outside of writing. You should be called Mid-Western Man, with all your folksy talk. UGH.

By: alan t.

alan t. — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 02:23:35 +0000

Nobody is in love with the sound of his own voice more than Michael Reghi. I wonder how much that blowhard would change his tune if the Indians games were broadcast on WKNR. No, come to think of it, I don't wonder. I know.

I can't blame Dolan, obviously the attendance projection didn't come close to the expectations. There has been close to a 20% dip in attendance since last season. That's freakin' ridiculous. Cleveland is a lousy baseball town and Jacobs took Dolan for a ride at Splash Mountain or Dip City, or wherever the hell the intrepid columnist said he took his kids this past week. Jacobs is probably yukking it up 10-feet-under, that jerk.

By: andy@ksu

andy@ksu — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 01:42:48 +0000

Keith Law explains this deal perfectly in an interview with Michael Reghi.

http://www.espncleveland.com/podcasting/

By: tony c

tony c — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 00:43:19 +0000

A bad deal. They had Lee set for next year. They could have built a
decent rotation around him and they still could have traded him before
next year's deadline if things went south. Now they don't have that core
pitcher to build with. pretty sad but typical of this organization.

By: rich

rich — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:27:04 +0000

Yeah, Wedge has no idea how to manage young players, Glad to see we called up Marte yesterday only to sit him today after getting 2 hits last night!!!

By: Jason

Jason — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 23:06:30 +0000

Oh, the Colon trade was spectacular. What we DID with the talent we received is another story.

Regarding Francisco, I prefer to think of it this way: "Okay, we'll give you Cliff Lee for four no-names, but you've GOT to take Francisco in the trade, too…or it's no deal."

The shame of it all is, Shapiro didn't demand that Philly take HAFNER and Francisco.

By: alan t.

alan t. — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:45:35 +0000

Yes, it was a success. Just because you're a boob afterward doesn't mean what you initially did wasn't a success. You're arguing semantics.

What I don't like about the trade the most is Martinez will now be pawned for nothing. Why did Shapiro pull the trigger two days before the deadline? It screams he's desperate. He didn't even bother posturing that he was talking to other teams about Lee so as to possibly get better prospects from Philadelphia. Now everybody knows Shapiro is in full desperation mode, and they don't have to give up anything for Martinez because they know Shapiro is absolutely desperate to dump salary.

It's like Shapiro has done the Vulcan mindmeld with Danny Ferry. This is some of the worst negotiating ever.

By: terje

terje — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:34:17 +0000

if i trade you a dollar bill for a twenty and i manage to lose the 20 in the wind is that a success?

that is essentially what the indians did with the colon trade.

By: alan t.

alan t. — Wed, 29 Jul 2009 22:32:45 +0000

The trade itself was a rousing success. I didn't say that what they did with the players they received was a success. Even if it had been just Cliff Lee for Colon straight up, the Indians got the better of the deal.