Seriously, you don't have the foggiest clue.

In addition, Jacobs increased attendance by 56 percent the year before the stadium opened. He only increased it by another 31 percent the year it opened. It wasn't until '96 that he began averaging over 40k/game. Why? Because he built a winner and proved he would invest in the team when necessary. Once the fans saw that, they went to games. They weren't going to go die-hard on the Indians just to see the team have one decent year, then trade away all their talent the teams of the past had, and the way Dolan has.

What do you think was a larger cost? Jacobs increasing attendance by 31 percent, or paying for 52 percent of a new stadium alone? He spent the money, then brought the fans. Where did the free agent money go from 86-93? Well, $91 million of it (from Jacobs) went to the stadium.

And don't talk to me about giving Dolan eight years. We've already given him close to 10. He cut his payroll into 1/3 of what it was, and it only increased due to increasing contracts from existing players, not because he added a load of talent. I've continuously asked you to name one player he added to the team who could contribute immediately the way the players I named could. Also, what salaries did Jacobs cut during the Indians' reign? Did you see them trading away premier talent every season?

And finally, learn how to do basic math. How would giving Dolan eight years put us at 2018? He made cuts in 2008 AND 2009. You continue to prove you know nothing of what you're saying, and you've yet to answer a single point or provide a shred of evidence to any of your 35+ posts.

The Indians aren't on the bottom of the payroll list now. They weren't on the bottom of the payroll list in 2007. Still, nobody showed up.

So why in the hell should Dolan keep spending and all he gets in return is people like you bitching online that he's not spending? All the while, your ilk is not buying one freakin' ticket while doing the bitching. Indeed, you are "Exhibit A" of the very core of the problem Dolan faces. And unlike the noble Jacobs, there's no getting out before the earth opens below.

Hypothetical: The new ballpark was never built. The Indians were still playing in Municipal Stadium. What would the average attendance have been from 1994 through 1999, and what would Jacobs' payrolls have been over that same period? The obvious answers to these two questions demolishes everything you have written preceding this. Any response other than the painfully obvious is outright delusional.

The Indians had exhausted their former team. It was time to rebuild. If Jacobs was still the owner today, would have have put together an equivalent adjusted for inflation $140 million payroll today? Not on your life.

My point does not, nor ever has had anything to do with Jacobs' payroll pre-94. Instead, it is based around spending money, building a successful team, then seeing that the fans will attend games as result. If anything, Dolan should have been intelligent enough to recognize this from Jacobs' early mistakes. Jacobs recognized it and built a dynasty. Dolan destroyed it and has failed to come close to Jacobs' accomplishments.

The discussion is about Dolan's lack of spending, and how that has destroyed this ball club. And it's about you making the claim that the Indians can't sell tickets because the fans are bad baseball fans. It has nothing to do with the Indians of the 70s, 80s or 50s. Debate the subject, or just take another hit, create a new cloud you can float around on, dream up a new way to divert the attention away from the topic at hand, and see (eventually) that you've been wrong about everything this entire time.

And still, despite 3,046 posts, I still have yet to read even one single post from you explaining Jacobs' payroll and behavior from 1986 through 1993. It's like those years of not spending a red cent on the major league payroll never happened. Didn't the people who paid for Indians season-tickets during that time-frame deserve more? In your magical world of milk and honey, I suppose not.