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		<title>By: Baffled</title>
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		<dc:creator>Baffled</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no worries about the Cavs not signing any free agents as Alan has pretty much guaranteed they will win the title now that they have Shaq:

alan t. Says: 

March 5th, 2009 at 12:05 pm 
48-12? What’s that, his wife’s measurements? Ferry didn’t do it, James did. And then the salary-dumping Bucks did. Other than that, Ferry was at the right place at the right time. My neighbor’s cute granddaughter could have accomplished the same feat. 

And I’m not riding Ferry here for being dumb, per se. I’m riding him because as a general manager, he has proven to be the worst chess and poker player with agents in all of Cleveland sports. The competition isn’t even close. He’d never last in a management job in the real world. 

And come on, dumping Count Pavlovic leaves the Cavaliers “woefully shorthanded?” Pavlovic can’t even count his short hands without committing an offensive foul. When the playoffs come around, which is all that matters, Pavlovic won’t even be in the rotation, and Eyebrow Guy will be seeing a few minutes only if Gibson keeps clanging away with his three-point heaves. 

It’s a shame Gilbert is hurting so badly, because with James and O’Neal in the same lineup, they would have been unstoppable in the playoffs on both ends of the floor. Take Chris Paul’s lobs to Chandler for dunks, multiply by 5. And if that wasn’t available, O’Neal is a great passer and could simply pass out to the wings. 

They could have just handed James his first trophy right now, save everybody the time. And then hope Bob Costas didn’t come over to ABC and screw up in the locker room again by referring to Michael Jordan’s wife as his mother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no worries about the Cavs not signing any free agents as Alan has pretty much guaranteed they will win the title now that they have Shaq:</p>
<p>alan t. Says: </p>
<p>March 5th, 2009 at 12:05 pm<br />
48-12? What’s that, his wife’s measurements? Ferry didn’t do it, James did. And then the salary-dumping Bucks did. Other than that, Ferry was at the right place at the right time. My neighbor’s cute granddaughter could have accomplished the same feat. </p>
<p>And I’m not riding Ferry here for being dumb, per se. I’m riding him because as a general manager, he has proven to be the worst chess and poker player with agents in all of Cleveland sports. The competition isn’t even close. He’d never last in a management job in the real world. </p>
<p>And come on, dumping Count Pavlovic leaves the Cavaliers “woefully shorthanded?” Pavlovic can’t even count his short hands without committing an offensive foul. When the playoffs come around, which is all that matters, Pavlovic won’t even be in the rotation, and Eyebrow Guy will be seeing a few minutes only if Gibson keeps clanging away with his three-point heaves. </p>
<p>It’s a shame Gilbert is hurting so badly, because with James and O’Neal in the same lineup, they would have been unstoppable in the playoffs on both ends of the floor. Take Chris Paul’s lobs to Chandler for dunks, multiply by 5. And if that wasn’t available, O’Neal is a great passer and could simply pass out to the wings. </p>
<p>They could have just handed James his first trophy right now, save everybody the time. And then hope Bob Costas didn’t come over to ABC and screw up in the locker room again by referring to Michael Jordan’s wife as his mother.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technically 10.3% for California to 5.925% for Ohio to 0% for Texas, Barry. 

But thanks for noticing that, no matter how much the local media always hypes the complete opposite, free agents with more mad skills than Paul Mokeski always avoid me and my birthplace like hot women avoid Elton John&#039;s Speedos.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically 10.3% for California to 5.925% for Ohio to 0% for Texas, Barry. </p>
<p>But thanks for noticing that, no matter how much the local media always hypes the complete opposite, free agents with more mad skills than Paul Mokeski always avoid me and my birthplace like hot women avoid Elton John&#039;s Speedos.<br />
<a href="http://xr.com/jzeb" rel="nofollow">http://xr.com/jzeb</a></p>
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		<title>By: barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 11:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m guessing that they all found out alan t. is a fan and decided to play elsewhere.

seriously - texas has no state income tax, while artest will be in the 10% tax bracket. at the MLE, that&#039;s an extra 500k a year - or like not having an agent. as fot artest, he&#039;s wanted to be a laker for the longest time, so there really wasn&#039;t any chance there. plus he&#039;s already got a house here.

asides from CV getting more money, michigan&#039;s state tax rate is also 1% less, as it also is for the state of massachusetts. that&#039;s an extra 10k per million dollars of salary

ohio is actually in the middle of the pack US-wise, but at a disadvantage to the other major contenders - florida also has no state income tax. jersey has it rough - they&#039;re at 9% while NY is only 6.85%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#039;m guessing that they all found out alan t. is a fan and decided to play elsewhere.</p>
<p>seriously &#8211; texas has no state income tax, while artest will be in the 10% tax bracket. at the MLE, that&#039;s an extra 500k a year &#8211; or like not having an agent. as fot artest, he&#039;s wanted to be a laker for the longest time, so there really wasn&#039;t any chance there. plus he&#039;s already got a house here.</p>
<p>asides from CV getting more money, michigan&#039;s state tax rate is also 1% less, as it also is for the state of massachusetts. that&#039;s an extra 10k per million dollars of salary</p>
<p>ohio is actually in the middle of the pack US-wise, but at a disadvantage to the other major contenders &#8211; florida also has no state income tax. jersey has it rough &#8211; they&#039;re at 9% while NY is only 6.85%.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, if Don King had been born an ostrich, wouldn&#039;t he have looked a lot like the bird in that photo?  Check it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, if Don King had been born an ostrich, wouldn&#039;t he have looked a lot like the bird in that photo?  Check it out.</p>
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		<title>By: geddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>geddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank god we&#039;ve got Eyenga though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank god we&#039;ve got Eyenga though!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I wasn&#039;t aware it was such a &#039;done deal&#039; that LBJ won&#039;t be signing here.  But I suppose his actions (or lack thereof) are speaking volumes.  He really *doesn&#039;t* care about winning here.  I actually thought he might be the exception to the rule, a hometown guy, like Yastrzemski or George Brett or Maravich, who remains loyal to &quot;his&quot; team longterm or lifetime.  But when I heard the nonsense about him wanting to be the first billionaire athlete, that tells me it&#039;s just all about LeBron.  All about the money.  We&#039;ve seen that act before, time and again.  It&#039;s never enough.  And then they die, and it all meant absolutely zero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I wasn&#039;t aware it was such a &#039;done deal&#039; that LBJ won&#039;t be signing here.  But I suppose his actions (or lack thereof) are speaking volumes.  He really *doesn&#039;t* care about winning here.  I actually thought he might be the exception to the rule, a hometown guy, like Yastrzemski or George Brett or Maravich, who remains loyal to &#034;his&#034; team longterm or lifetime.  But when I heard the nonsense about him wanting to be the first billionaire athlete, that tells me it&#039;s just all about LeBron.  All about the money.  We&#039;ve seen that act before, time and again.  It&#039;s never enough.  And then they die, and it all meant absolutely zero.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, thall also said the same thing.  Didn&#039;t mean to make it appear I was ignoring or dissing you.  My bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, thall also said the same thing.  Didn&#039;t mean to make it appear I was ignoring or dissing you.  My bad.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 16:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian and Jason, James&#039; people certainly aren&#039;t naive or dumb.  They knew all that going into this free agent period.  Read the tea leaves.  As far as a lot of other folks are concerned, I&#039;ve heard ostrich meat is pretty good.  http://xr.com/4s9</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian and Jason, James&#039; people certainly aren&#039;t naive or dumb.  They knew all that going into this free agent period.  Read the tea leaves.  As far as a lot of other folks are concerned, I&#039;ve heard ostrich meat is pretty good.  <a href="http://xr.com/4s9" rel="nofollow">http://xr.com/4s9</a></p>
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		<title>By: terje</title>
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		<dc:creator>terje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well alan, i&#039;m sure there is the usual crowd out saying you&#039;re an idiot but you did indeed call this a long time ago.  and now it&#039;s on public display for anyone without a special cleveland lobotomy to see.  at least i got my head out of the sand in february.  there are plenty of people out there who really think that the cavs are going to keep lebron and score chris bosh or some other sweet free agent next year.  sorry folks.

AIN&#039;T GONNA HAPPEN.

it is now or never.  as brian and jason and others stated, lebron needed to show committment to the team and he didn&#039;t.  the 2010 season may still end with a parade but it&#039;s also going to be a new orleans funeral for the franchise.

oh yeah, the ariza thing.  as some guy named julio and i were trying to tell some of the droolers in another forum the crux of the biscuit is---STATE INCOME TAXES.  although the money is equal on paper texas has no state income tax so really the decision for trevor ariza was an easy one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well alan, i&#039;m sure there is the usual crowd out saying you&#039;re an idiot but you did indeed call this a long time ago.  and now it&#039;s on public display for anyone without a special cleveland lobotomy to see.  at least i got my head out of the sand in february.  there are plenty of people out there who really think that the cavs are going to keep lebron and score chris bosh or some other sweet free agent next year.  sorry folks.</p>
<p>AIN&#039;T GONNA HAPPEN.</p>
<p>it is now or never.  as brian and jason and others stated, lebron needed to show committment to the team and he didn&#039;t.  the 2010 season may still end with a parade but it&#039;s also going to be a new orleans funeral for the franchise.</p>
<p>oh yeah, the ariza thing.  as some guy named julio and i were trying to tell some of the droolers in another forum the crux of the biscuit is&#8212;STATE INCOME TAXES.  although the money is equal on paper texas has no state income tax so really the decision for trevor ariza was an easy one.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not the weather and it&#039;s not LeBron&#039;s lack of recruiting skills.  Do the suburbs of Detroit have macadamia nut trees and palm trees lining the curbs?  How many pairs of thermal underpants does one need, two or three?  Did the ex-Bad Boys regroup like a 156th KISS Farewell Tour to recruit free agents?  Was Michael Redd entranced by LeBron&#039;s eyes and sexy tats before Michael Redd inevitably told Ferry to kiss his cheeks, and not the ones on his face?   

It&#039;s Danny Ferry, Danny Ferry and Danny Ferry.  All three of them.

I&#039;m sorry, but NOW is the time to bring up the summer of 2010.  Businesses are long-term, aren&#039;t they?  The NBA isn&#039;t going defunct tomorrow, is it?  Arena attendance still means something for the franchise in 2012, doesn&#039;t it?  Is anybody still cheering the 2007 Indians?  Or, are folks calling for Eric Wedge to be hung in effigy in the gorgeous Flats, yet another hot NBA free agent destination.  After all, everybody knows if not for the Flats, Larry Hughes and Z would have gone overseas to play for huge 100% tax-free overseas contracts dwarfing Josh Childress&#039; terrific tax-free Greek contract.  

Hey, in 2005, if Z&#039;s agent had cleverly turned down Ferry&#039;s five-year, zillion-dollar contract when Ferry was the only guy in the NBA bidding for his rugged low-post and lighting quick running game services, perhaps Z might have gone and played for that Moscow team, like Delonte West&#039;s agent once teased.  I could envision Z being nicknamed by the Russkie press &quot;The Fabio of Moscow.&quot;  That Z would have been one hot property.  Chicks ahoy. 
http://xr.com/5thy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s not the weather and it&#039;s not LeBron&#039;s lack of recruiting skills.  Do the suburbs of Detroit have macadamia nut trees and palm trees lining the curbs?  How many pairs of thermal underpants does one need, two or three?  Did the ex-Bad Boys regroup like a 156th KISS Farewell Tour to recruit free agents?  Was Michael Redd entranced by LeBron&#039;s eyes and sexy tats before Michael Redd inevitably told Ferry to kiss his cheeks, and not the ones on his face?   </p>
<p>It&#039;s Danny Ferry, Danny Ferry and Danny Ferry.  All three of them.</p>
<p>I&#039;m sorry, but NOW is the time to bring up the summer of 2010.  Businesses are long-term, aren&#039;t they?  The NBA isn&#039;t going defunct tomorrow, is it?  Arena attendance still means something for the franchise in 2012, doesn&#039;t it?  Is anybody still cheering the 2007 Indians?  Or, are folks calling for Eric Wedge to be hung in effigy in the gorgeous Flats, yet another hot NBA free agent destination.  After all, everybody knows if not for the Flats, Larry Hughes and Z would have gone overseas to play for huge 100% tax-free overseas contracts dwarfing Josh Childress&#039; terrific tax-free Greek contract.  </p>
<p>Hey, in 2005, if Z&#039;s agent had cleverly turned down Ferry&#039;s five-year, zillion-dollar contract when Ferry was the only guy in the NBA bidding for his rugged low-post and lighting quick running game services, perhaps Z might have gone and played for that Moscow team, like Delonte West&#039;s agent once teased.  I could envision Z being nicknamed by the Russkie press &#034;The Fabio of Moscow.&#034;  That Z would have been one hot property.  Chicks ahoy.<br />
<a href="http://xr.com/5thy" rel="nofollow">http://xr.com/5thy</a></p>
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