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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2009/05/20/that-loud-thud-is-the-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-4878</link>
		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 12:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the book is right. That&#039;s how they seem to do everything, with an eye on the odds and the long grind of the season. 

The saber geniuses have brainwashed the Tribe&#039;s front office and they now have too little respect for the game&#039;s athleticism, emotion and momentum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the book is right. That&#039;s how they seem to do everything, with an eye on the odds and the long grind of the season. </p>
<p>The saber geniuses have brainwashed the Tribe&#039;s front office and they now have too little respect for the game&#039;s athleticism, emotion and momentum.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 02:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot about that one.  All the bad bullpen performances are starting to blend together....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot about that one.  All the bad bullpen performances are starting to blend together&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: terje</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2009/05/20/that-loud-thud-is-the-indians/comment-page-1/#comment-4860</link>
		<dc:creator>terje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 17:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kerry wood has been pretty bad this year.

remember this game?

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore;_ylt=Ao7M5F.wRyP_eGNTy5xuuje4u7YF?gid=290427105</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kerry wood has been pretty bad this year.</p>
<p>remember this game?</p>
<p><a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore;_ylt=Ao7M5F.wRyP_eGNTy5xuuje4u7YF?gid=290427105" rel="nofollow">http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore;_ylt=Ao7M5F.wRyP_eGNTy5xuuje4u7YF?gid=290427105</a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 17:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terje, I still don&#039;t think it was unreasonable to expect Wood to come in and do his job.  As of yesterday, he still hadn&#039;t shown that he was as inept as the rest of the bullpen.  Next time this situation comes up, though, I would hope Lee stays in the game.  Of course by then the season will be a washout anyway, so what&#039;s the difference?

That said, I&#039;m with you 110% on the ever-evolving lineup and this absurd notion of having guys play 3 or 4 different positions.  Wedge certainly isn&#039;t &quot;going by the book&quot; when it comes to that nonsense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terje, I still don&#039;t think it was unreasonable to expect Wood to come in and do his job.  As of yesterday, he still hadn&#039;t shown that he was as inept as the rest of the bullpen.  Next time this situation comes up, though, I would hope Lee stays in the game.  Of course by then the season will be a washout anyway, so what&#039;s the difference?</p>
<p>That said, I&#039;m with you 110% on the ever-evolving lineup and this absurd notion of having guys play 3 or 4 different positions.  Wedge certainly isn&#039;t &#034;going by the book&#034; when it comes to that nonsense.</p>
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		<title>By: sam rubens</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam rubens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 16:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is the kind of season that gets people fired. Managers. Players. Even the front office.&quot;

hell, this is the kind of season where mcmanamon and pluto may have to worry about their jobs. LOL go tribe. go cavs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;This is the kind of season that gets people fired. Managers. Players. Even the front office.&#034;</p>
<p>hell, this is the kind of season where mcmanamon and pluto may have to worry about their jobs. LOL go tribe. go cavs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 15:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Wedge seems far too concerned with putting his &quot;closer&quot; (Wickman, Borowski, Wood) in 9th-inning &quot;save&quot; situations to pad their stats, rather than actually WINNING the game.  You think Gaylord Perry would&#039;ve allowed Wedge to pull him after 101 pitches?  Maybe it&#039;s time for a little old-school common sense, instead of all these by-the-book failures.  If there&#039;s a critical game-changing moment in the 7th inning, for instance, I&#039;m not opposed to using Wood right then and there.  Why wait and lose the game?  Wood is not a sure-fire stopper, so let&#039;s dispel that thinking right NOW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Wedge seems far too concerned with putting his &#034;closer&#034; (Wickman, Borowski, Wood) in 9th-inning &#034;save&#034; situations to pad their stats, rather than actually WINNING the game.  You think Gaylord Perry would&#039;ve allowed Wedge to pull him after 101 pitches?  Maybe it&#039;s time for a little old-school common sense, instead of all these by-the-book failures.  If there&#039;s a critical game-changing moment in the 7th inning, for instance, I&#039;m not opposed to using Wood right then and there.  Why wait and lose the game?  Wood is not a sure-fire stopper, so let&#039;s dispel that thinking right NOW.</p>
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		<title>By: ClayMatthewsSchoolforLaterals</title>
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		<dc:creator>ClayMatthewsSchoolforLaterals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 15:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dou you remember how a coach who was fired by the Indians, supposedly stood on the pitchers mound of Municipal Stadium and cursed the team?
This &quot;Cleveland Curse&quot; appearently was so bad that the team brought in a real witch to remove it, remember?  Well, when times got better in the 1990&#039;s, a reporter thought to go to Florida and ask the coach, himself, about the curse.  He said:  &quot;Geez, I didn&#039;t curse the team.  There was no curse.  There was just bad mangement.&quot;  That says it all, people...Just really, really bad management.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dou you remember how a coach who was fired by the Indians, supposedly stood on the pitchers mound of Municipal Stadium and cursed the team?<br />
This &#034;Cleveland Curse&#034; appearently was so bad that the team brought in a real witch to remove it, remember?  Well, when times got better in the 1990&#039;s, a reporter thought to go to Florida and ask the coach, himself, about the curse.  He said:  &#034;Geez, I didn&#039;t curse the team.  There was no curse.  There was just bad mangement.&#034;  That says it all, people&#8230;Just really, really bad management.</p>
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		<title>By: terje</title>
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		<dc:creator>terje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 15:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>matt, what&#039;s more important...a win or an appearance for kerry wood?  a cy young winner trumps the $10 million dollar elbow on a string closer.

wedge has been going by-the-book with his pitching substitutions his entire tenure with the team.  it&#039;s not working.  and now he&#039;s mixing and matching the line-ups and as a result losing games (see garko in left field misplay the angle and give up a double to a pitcher while derosa plays first).

wedge and shapiro are the main problems with the team.  they were the one&#039;s who assembled a jack-of-all-trades but master of none line up.  they are the ones who&#039;s teams start slow and force a fire sale of the best players mid season.  they are the ones who keep a guy who killed the 2007 season as a 3rd base coach.  they are the ones who canned eddie murray at the first sign of trouble yet derek shelton undisciplined school of hitting overstays it&#039;s welcome for over a year.

a once promising franchise has turned into baseball&#039;s version of the cleveland browns in less than 2 years.  no leadership.  no focus.  no discipline.

fire shapiro!
fire wedge!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>matt, what&#039;s more important&#8230;a win or an appearance for kerry wood?  a cy young winner trumps the $10 million dollar elbow on a string closer.</p>
<p>wedge has been going by-the-book with his pitching substitutions his entire tenure with the team.  it&#039;s not working.  and now he&#039;s mixing and matching the line-ups and as a result losing games (see garko in left field misplay the angle and give up a double to a pitcher while derosa plays first).</p>
<p>wedge and shapiro are the main problems with the team.  they were the one&#039;s who assembled a jack-of-all-trades but master of none line up.  they are the ones who&#039;s teams start slow and force a fire sale of the best players mid season.  they are the ones who keep a guy who killed the 2007 season as a 3rd base coach.  they are the ones who canned eddie murray at the first sign of trouble yet derek shelton undisciplined school of hitting overstays it&#039;s welcome for over a year.</p>
<p>a once promising franchise has turned into baseball&#039;s version of the cleveland browns in less than 2 years.  no leadership.  no focus.  no discipline.</p>
<p>fire shapiro!<br />
fire wedge!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 15:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, all the talk about &quot;versatility&quot; in Spring Training raised some red flags with me.  Shoppach is quickly showing last season was a fluke, and he&#039;s not worthy of forcing all these position shifts to accommodate his multi-strikeouts each game.  Sad thing is, even with a &quot;set&quot; lineup, this group is W.E.A.K.  No pop, no average, no consistency, no speed, no small-ball ability...what in the world has Shapiro assembled here?  

Don&#039;t even get me started on the pitching staff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, all the talk about &#034;versatility&#034; in Spring Training raised some red flags with me.  Shoppach is quickly showing last season was a fluke, and he&#039;s not worthy of forcing all these position shifts to accommodate his multi-strikeouts each game.  Sad thing is, even with a &#034;set&#034; lineup, this group is W.E.A.K.  No pop, no average, no consistency, no speed, no small-ball ability&#8230;what in the world has Shapiro assembled here?  </p>
<p>Don&#039;t even get me started on the pitching staff.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 14:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hindsight&#039;s always 20-20, Terje.  If you&#039;re paying a guy 8 figures to pitch the 9th inning, why not use him for that purpose?  This one&#039;s on Wood, not Wedge.  

There&#039;s plenty of blame to go around this season.  Wedge is certainly part of the problem, but he&#039;s not the only problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hindsight&#039;s always 20-20, Terje.  If you&#039;re paying a guy 8 figures to pitch the 9th inning, why not use him for that purpose?  This one&#039;s on Wood, not Wedge.  </p>
<p>There&#039;s plenty of blame to go around this season.  Wedge is certainly part of the problem, but he&#039;s not the only problem.</p>
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