Comments on: This talk of acquiring Jay Cutler defies logic

By: alan t.

alan t. — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:52:47 +0000

mike, Austin Carr was a great Notre Dame ballplayer, too, but his pro career was far less than sterling. Bottom line, it doesn't mean squat what they did in college.

By: yahoo

yahoo — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 19:47:32 +0000

Amen.

By: mike housley

mike housley — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:26:51 +0000

Full disclosure; I am an ND guy and a BQ guy, and so now am a Browns fan.
Anyone who doesn't think Brady didn't show something last year is delusional. He played great on 3-4 days notice in his first game. The so called experts say it is very difficult to start without notice. He broke his hand in the second game and still played ok. What the hell are you guys watching? A classic knock on Brady is that he didn't win the big games. The facts are that he led the team down the field to score on his last chance against USC in his biggest game, and scored to bring the Ohio State game down to a one possession game. Google or Utube the last 63 seconds of the UCLA game. If you want better quarterbacking than that, then you had better trade for Tom Brady.

By: FootsieW

FootsieW — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 10:52:56 +0000

Wait Pat. Not all of us were thrilled that we traded a first round pick to get Quinn in the first place and also realize the only reason we did was because he fell like a rock dropped from the Terminal Tower, in the draft. Don't "retool"? Are you kidding? If they are going to bring in a new QB when else would you do it? We have a new coach, new GM, new OC new QB coach. The entire structure IS retooled so who cares if they bring in a QB they feel is better than what we have. And yes, Cutler IS better than what we have. 25 TDs last year with zero running game and no defense, sound familiar? So you trade one of our current QBs ( I don't care which) AND Rogers? NO. But how about if the Broncos threw in their #1 as well, then take Raji with the #5 to replace Rogers and use the Broncos pick for another need and we have solved our QB problem, replaced an unhappy Rogers with the highest rated DL in the draft with another Nose Tackle and we still have either BQ or DA to trade.

By: Mike Malik

Mike Malik — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 03:35:54 +0000

A two quarterback system might work in College, but not in the pros. The only time I can think that it did work, the notion was called Woodstrock.
Maybe some remember that experiment, It consisted of quarterbacks David Woodly and Don Strock, and it was in Miami at the time. But, also what helped was the hard coach at the time, A certain Don Shula, perhaps the greatest NFL coach of the modern era.
Not counting Bernie Kosar, who was exceptional, the last good quarterback in CLeveland was someone called Brian Sipe. When he was drafted, there were 17 rounds in the draft, and if I remember, he was drafted in that round out of San Diego state. Then, the only reason he bacame quarterback was when the supposed great savior Mike Phipps got hurt, and Brian Sipe stepped in and never let go of the ball after that.
The browns have never had muck luck drafting Quarterbacks n high rounds. Otto Gramn was signed when they were still IN the old AAFC. Milt Plumb was a trade, Sipe was a low draft choice. Since then the high draft choices had bombed, (Kosar was a supplemental draft choice after a trade with Buffalo. Tim Couch bombed. Jeff Garcia was a cast off from San Francisco. Anderson came from another team. Cleveland should never draft a Quarterback, instead let Josh Cribbs run the offense. He's probably the best QB on the team anyway.

By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 02:40:55 +0000

Why would we want Jay Cutler at all? What kind of leader bails out on his teammates when faced with the possibility of a trade? Because his feelings were hurt he wants to run away from Denver. A real leader would want to stay and fight and prove his worth. Every time a player (in any professional sport) tests the free-agent market and signs elsewhere for more money, they say "It's a business." Well, it IS a business and it's all about making your team better and in the case of Josh McDaniels better was someone he felt comfortable with. It didn't work out so he committed to the quarterback he already had under contract. A true leader doesn't show that side of him and acts like a leader. Were his feelings truly hurt or was he afraid of competition for his job? We need a leader to quarterback our team. We do NOT need Jay Cutler.

By: alan t.

alan t. — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 01:35:29 +0000

Tbomb (during happier times):
http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j304/ArsenalMGF/BeatingaDeadHorse.gif

By: Tbomb

Tbomb — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 01:17:11 +0000

I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here[something I would never consider but Alan,I'm told, partakes in on a regular basis] when I dutifully repeat an earlier prediction that Anderson is as good as gone[the only variables being which teams lose out on the Cutler quest and the vertical passing game it entails and are then tossed into the D.A. derby] and what said teams are willing to swap. Then comes the entirely not implausible scenario wherein the Broncos and their Eagle Scout coach start making overtures to Mangini concerning Quinn. If they knock us out we take it and the pick[s] involved. We then, move on and draft yet another QB[Freeman is my choice but wouldn't rule out the top two if we stay at five] and use the additional picks to draft guys who can play.

By: alan t.

alan t. — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:55:05 +0000

francie w., no doubt Quinn's first move would be to pose in his underwear on top of a snow-capped mountain for one of those questionable "male health" magazines. They'd probably have to do some Photoshopping, the cold does odd things to some body parts.

By: alan t.

alan t. — Thu, 02 Apr 2009 00:46:23 +0000

Rob, that's what I meant about the hyperbole … I know it was Holcomb, not Anderson.

Pro football players are in a totally different situation than any other professional sport. Guaranteed contract, what's that? So if Cutler and his agent can force a trade away from a new boss he doesn't like or respect, then why not. Who else is he going to "cry" to, Apu at the Quickie Mart? What good is that going to do.

When you want to get something done, you go to the media and spread your message. Management and ownership does it every day, so why shouldn't the players and their agents. That's not crying, that's business.