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		<title>By: Radley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Radley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, is there a section just for latest news</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, is there a section just for latest news</p>
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		<title>By: Rob B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 17:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan T are you Pat McManamon, you sound a lot like him.
If I found out people were leaking information to anybody they would be fired not layed off. Randy and the Browns did not do that. You don&#039;t know how much severence pay they got or any of the details. As far as the coaches go, if there getting payed wether they are working or not whats it matter. They can latch on to another team next year and they wont have to worry about feeding the kids or paying the mortgage.
Pat McManamon you are mad because your source got let go. You can&#039;t get any more inside info and you don&#039;t like it. It looks like you will have to work for a living instead of just buying somebody lunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan T are you Pat McManamon, you sound a lot like him.<br />
If I found out people were leaking information to anybody they would be fired not layed off. Randy and the Browns did not do that. You don&#039;t know how much severence pay they got or any of the details. As far as the coaches go, if there getting payed wether they are working or not whats it matter. They can latch on to another team next year and they wont have to worry about feeding the kids or paying the mortgage.<br />
Pat McManamon you are mad because your source got let go. You can&#039;t get any more inside info and you don&#039;t like it. It looks like you will have to work for a living instead of just buying somebody lunch.</p>
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		<title>By: Riding A Pale Horse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riding A Pale Horse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 06:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just further proof Lerner is out of his league. The Savage era left Lerner realing, all the leaks of what &quot;might&quot; happen.... So he hires a Stalinist, who loves to execute purges of any perceived &quot;rats&quot;. As a life long Browns&#039; fan I am concerned that they don&#039;t give at rat&#039;s ass about me, or what the fans as a whole want for this team aslong as we paid to get thru that turnstyle. They must take us for backwards rubes. Well not me Bubba, i&#039;m no rube and i&#039;m on the verge of writing this team of totaly, and it hurts to say that but i&#039;m not going to be a ATM for a Franchise that thinks like Mangini.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is just further proof Lerner is out of his league. The Savage era left Lerner realing, all the leaks of what &#034;might&#034; happen&#8230;. So he hires a Stalinist, who loves to execute purges of any perceived &#034;rats&#034;. As a life long Browns&#039; fan I am concerned that they don&#039;t give at rat&#039;s ass about me, or what the fans as a whole want for this team aslong as we paid to get thru that turnstyle. They must take us for backwards rubes. Well not me Bubba, i&#039;m no rube and i&#039;m on the verge of writing this team of totaly, and it hurts to say that but i&#039;m not going to be a ATM for a Franchise that thinks like Mangini.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, there is an unwritten rule as to the right way is to conduct business.  This is not the right way at all.  And they won&#039;t &quot;land on their feet&quot; if spots have already been filled, whether it&#039;s pro or in college.  There is a right way and a wrong way.  This was and is just plain wrong.

This is a pattern with Mangini.  Word on the street is that if not for Lerner, he would have been blackballed as a head coach because he violated an unwritten code by finking on Belichick.  Somebody oughta teach this Pillsbury Doughboy a lesson before he receives a fist in the face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, there is an unwritten rule as to the right way is to conduct business.  This is not the right way at all.  And they won&#039;t &#034;land on their feet&#034; if spots have already been filled, whether it&#039;s pro or in college.  There is a right way and a wrong way.  This was and is just plain wrong.</p>
<p>This is a pattern with Mangini.  Word on the street is that if not for Lerner, he would have been blackballed as a head coach because he violated an unwritten code by finking on Belichick.  Somebody oughta teach this Pillsbury Doughboy a lesson before he receives a fist in the face.</p>
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		<title>By: andy@ksu</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy@ksu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t for a second think that randy lerner could not afford to keep these fifteen employees on board. Keenan&#039;s statement about how the browns are not immune to this economy is nonsense. They simply want to shake up the PR department. 

However, the browns and eric mangini have every right to hold coaches to their contracts. These coaches are still getting paid and if they are let go they still will get paid. If they catch onto another gig for a lesser salary the browns will have to make up the difference. And if they are quality coaches they will land on their feet even if there is a week delay. The Browns are not toying with theses coaches lives like mcmanamon suggests, they are holding them to an agreement that they signed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t for a second think that randy lerner could not afford to keep these fifteen employees on board. Keenan&#039;s statement about how the browns are not immune to this economy is nonsense. They simply want to shake up the PR department. </p>
<p>However, the browns and eric mangini have every right to hold coaches to their contracts. These coaches are still getting paid and if they are let go they still will get paid. If they catch onto another gig for a lesser salary the browns will have to make up the difference. And if they are quality coaches they will land on their feet even if there is a week delay. The Browns are not toying with theses coaches lives like mcmanamon suggests, they are holding them to an agreement that they signed.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong.  They&#039;ve already been given a chance.  They already blew the chance.  It&#039;s irreversible. 

 They are now putting up a stone wall around themselves, literally painting out past history (albeit this is silly anyway, since it&#039;s history from a totally different franchise, but that&#039;s not the point), and then firing a bunch of office employees and using a totally bogus storyline about money to justify it.  (Did they find free Sherwin-Williams premium paint on Craigslist, or what?)

By the way, what I found very funny in a very unfunny kind of way is that the royal jerks at the top of the food chain fired the accounts payable person.  However, they left the accounts receivable person alone.  That should tell you all you need to know about the creeps now running the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong.  They&#039;ve already been given a chance.  They already blew the chance.  It&#039;s irreversible. </p>
<p> They are now putting up a stone wall around themselves, literally painting out past history (albeit this is silly anyway, since it&#039;s history from a totally different franchise, but that&#039;s not the point), and then firing a bunch of office employees and using a totally bogus storyline about money to justify it.  (Did they find free Sherwin-Williams premium paint on Craigslist, or what?)</p>
<p>By the way, what I found very funny in a very unfunny kind of way is that the royal jerks at the top of the food chain fired the accounts payable person.  However, they left the accounts receivable person alone.  That should tell you all you need to know about the creeps now running the show.</p>
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		<title>By: jagdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>jagdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat,

There&#039;s a fine line between sarcasm and cynicism.  I agree with those who&#039;ve suggested you’ve crossed it and that it reflects poorly on your objectivity.  Give this new leadership team a chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat,</p>
<p>There&#039;s a fine line between sarcasm and cynicism.  I agree with those who&#039;ve suggested you’ve crossed it and that it reflects poorly on your objectivity.  Give this new leadership team a chance.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please.  The facts speak for themselves.  They already burned Dale Carnegie&#039;s &quot;How to Win Friends and Influence People.&quot;  

Besides, the Northeast Ohio sports media has forever been Pansyland.  The newspapers and the writers who write for those newspapers hop in bed with the very people they cover.  It&#039;s pathetic.  

So who cares if a local sportswriter is being sarcastic?  I&#039;ll take a billion sarcastic columns before a take one more kiss on the butt cheeks column from any of Northeast Ohio&#039;s finest.  The closest any of the current local sportswriters out there has ever come to biting the hand that feeds them is Bill Livingston.  So long as it&#039;s on-target, we need more sportswriters with a nice touch of sarcasm, and less &quot;I&#039;ll pray for Paul Byrd&quot; cotton candy folks impersonating sportswriters.  

The next green beer is on me, Pat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please.  The facts speak for themselves.  They already burned Dale Carnegie&#039;s &#034;How to Win Friends and Influence People.&#034;  </p>
<p>Besides, the Northeast Ohio sports media has forever been Pansyland.  The newspapers and the writers who write for those newspapers hop in bed with the very people they cover.  It&#039;s pathetic.  </p>
<p>So who cares if a local sportswriter is being sarcastic?  I&#039;ll take a billion sarcastic columns before a take one more kiss on the butt cheeks column from any of Northeast Ohio&#039;s finest.  The closest any of the current local sportswriters out there has ever come to biting the hand that feeds them is Bill Livingston.  So long as it&#039;s on-target, we need more sportswriters with a nice touch of sarcasm, and less &#034;I&#039;ll pray for Paul Byrd&#034; cotton candy folks impersonating sportswriters.  </p>
<p>The next green beer is on me, Pat.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Adams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bryan Adams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 12:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick:

Long time reader.  I hear what you&#039;re saying, and I agree with your sentiment.  Reduced access is stupid -- this is entertainment!  How are you supposed to be entertaining when closing out your fans?  It is dumb.

However, I want to encourage you to stop reporting on the Browns for a while.  You&#039;re angry, and it&#039;s coming through in your writing.  Any time you&#039;re reduced to sarcasm (&quot;burning books&quot;) and veiled potshots (&quot;if I could tell you&quot;), that&#039;s beneath you as a writer.  Again, I agree with your points, and there&#039;s no question the Browns organization is a mess.  But you&#039;ve got to be far enough above the fray that your writing sounds compelling and not just frustrated.

Still a big fan,  --Bryan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick:</p>
<p>Long time reader.  I hear what you&#039;re saying, and I agree with your sentiment.  Reduced access is stupid &#8212; this is entertainment!  How are you supposed to be entertaining when closing out your fans?  It is dumb.</p>
<p>However, I want to encourage you to stop reporting on the Browns for a while.  You&#039;re angry, and it&#039;s coming through in your writing.  Any time you&#039;re reduced to sarcasm (&#034;burning books&#034;) and veiled potshots (&#034;if I could tell you&#034;), that&#039;s beneath you as a writer.  Again, I agree with your points, and there&#039;s no question the Browns organization is a mess.  But you&#039;ve got to be far enough above the fray that your writing sounds compelling and not just frustrated.</p>
<p>Still a big fan,  &#8211;Bryan</p>
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		<title>By: andy@ksu</title>
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		<dc:creator>andy@ksu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 01:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan t.- I understand where you are coming from, but i respectfully disagree. If a reporter like mcmanamon speaks in generalities about mangini that might lead to assumptions about the man that are less than true. I dont think that is fair to mangini especially after only three weeks on the job. 

I think he should have the guts to spill the details of what he&#039;s suggesting or don&#039;t bring it up at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan t.- I understand where you are coming from, but i respectfully disagree. If a reporter like mcmanamon speaks in generalities about mangini that might lead to assumptions about the man that are less than true. I dont think that is fair to mangini especially after only three weeks on the job. </p>
<p>I think he should have the guts to spill the details of what he&#039;s suggesting or don&#039;t bring it up at all.</p>
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