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Two thumbs up to interviewing Tom Heckert

by Pat McManamon on January 7, 2009

in Browns, George Kokinis, McManamon, NFL, Tom Heckert Jr.

The Browns have asked for and been granted permission to interview Tom Heckert Jr., the General Manager of the Philadelphia Eagles. This news should be welcomed by Browns fans, because Heckert is a very highly regarded young executive. He brings 18 years of experience, smarts and years of good decision-making to the table. (You hear a lot of the same things about Chris Polian, son of Colts president Bill Polian, by the way.)

I knew Heckert's father when he worked in Miami for Don Shula and I covered the Dolphins. Heckert Sr. did an outstanding job there. He was very polite and friendly, but he also was extremely loyal. He knew his role and never tried to usurp authority from or upstage Shula. Not that he could have had he tried.

But Heckert Sr. grew to the point in Miami that Shula went along with all his personnel decisions, and when someone has that kind of respect from Don Shula he's accomplished something. Heckert Sr. also worked for the Browns as a scout more than 20 years ago. Every time I saw him after I left Miami, he'd ask how things were going in Cleveland. Clearly, he still cared about the team and city.

One would imagine many of those same traits have been passed down from father to son. Heckert Jr. (who henceforth in this crog shall merely be "Heckert") started his career working for the Dolphins as a scout, and eventually worked for both Shula and Jimmy Johnson. He was hired in Philadelphia with a strong recommendation from Johnson.

The main question about Heckert is whether he'll leave a good situation in Philadelphia. He and Andy Reid work extremely well together. They've got a good rapport, and the team has a good thing going. He's turned down the opportunity to leave before, and I'm not convinced, personally, that he will leave this time. To get him, the Browns would have to give him control of personnel or a promotion that would include a Vice President's title. But even if he had that title, he does not seem to have the ego that would force decisions on any coach.

He certainly seems ready. Heckert manages the Eagles player personnel department, and he has been responsible for all college and pro scouting. He's only 41, but he seems to have a resume that's extremely well-rounded. He joined the Eagles as Player Personnel Director in 2001, was promoted to Vice President of Player Personnel in 2003 and named GM in 2006. He's served on influential NFL committees and has been around winning teams. Last May, the team extended his contract through 2011.

When it was announced the Browns would interview Scott Pioli of New England and try to interview Rich McKay of Atlanta (and formerly Tampa Bay), the thought immediately popped into my head: Wonder why not Heckert? From that point, I've thought that Heckert would be a good alternative if the two main choices could not be landed. Interviewing Heckert seems like a winning proposition. Getting him out of Philadelphia might be challenging, though, perhaps impossible.

This does seem to indicate that Pioli is not coming to Cleveland, and the Browns and owner Randy Lerner have cooled on McKay. The team seems to be moving to new options, and probably would not do so if Pioli's hiring were still a real possibility. Nobody has told me that, but that's what the tea leaves say.

Now … I don't know the relationship between Heckert and Eric Mangini, and I don't know what this means to Mangini's candidacy to be the head coach. But I do think a team of Heckert and Mangini would bring more credibility and belief to the table than George Kokinis and Mangini. It may not be fair to Kokinis, and may simply be perception, but Heckert's resume is strong enough that it would seem fans would have great trust and belief in that pairing. And … I believe that if Heckert were hired as VP of Football Operations (or some other inane title like that) and he chose the coach, people would be more accepting of the decision – even if it again led to Eric Mangini. Not sure that's going to happen, but that's my opinion.

I will say that every time I start to feel comfortable about Mangini, I hear or read something that makes me wonder. The latest is the word that many in the Jets organization were relieved that he left, that the work environment he created was so unpleasant it was difficult to do the job there. This was not just assistant coaches, on whom Mangini was very tough. This was many in the building.

Does this mean a guy can't win? No. Does it mean that he can't change? No. But it does mean the odds are things would be the same in Cleveland. Again, few question Mangini's football acumen; they do question the way he goes about his job.

Here is an analysis on Mangini from Rich Cimini, one of the better football writers in the country, a guy who does not overstate things and who is a quiet professional. This package also includes a timeline of Mangini's days with the Jets.

With all that is happening, I really wonder if the hiring of Mangini would be more acceptable if a strong, experienced GM were hired as well. For some reason, Heckert-Mangini sounds palatable. Perhaps because it indicates Mangini is not calling all shots, including the hiring of the GM. That's the perception that was present with Kokinis.

Again, this all may not be fair to Kokinis. A guy can never be a successful GM if he's not given a chance, and Kokinis has been helpful and honest the couple times I've dealt with him. It's just that Heckert's resume is pretty strong.

But … I also think the Browns should continue to look, and interview. Interviewing Heckert is wise. I'd still see about interviewing Rich McKay. I'd consider Lionel Vital of Atlanta as well. If he's willing to interview, I'd wait for Mike Shanahan – it might be worth it. I'd interview Raheem Morris of Tampa Bay to be the coach (even though, yes, the Browns prefer not to hire an assistant) and Mike Mularkey of Atlanta. Nobody else seems to be clamoring to hire Mangini, so why not take more time. The road still may lead back to Mangini, and if it does that's fine. But taking more time would not hurt anyone.

{ 15 comments… read them below or add one }

Gordo January 7, 2009 at 8:56 am

Good article Pat, although Rich Mckay was been in Atlanta for years now, not Tampa Bay.

larry d. January 7, 2009 at 9:46 am

McKay has also been put on the back burner in Atlanta due to chronic boneheadedness. He buddies up to the press, which is why writers still hold him in high regard.

terje January 7, 2009 at 9:50 am

i'm liking the heckert interview too. it's good to see that regardless of the reports that lerner seems to be covering all the options.

Lou January 7, 2009 at 10:00 am

This is great news. I think getting Heckert on board would go a long way in selling Mangini if that is what Lerner wants (and if Heckert and Mangini can get along). Heckert has been linked to Spagnuolo and this is a pairing I think Browns fans would get excited about.

I'm not interested at all in a Kokinis/Mangini pairing. Kokinis does not have half the resume that the other main candidates have. I'm not sold on Mangini as coach and in guild by association I'm not sold on Kokinis as the best candidate for the job.

Wayne January 7, 2009 at 10:11 am

Pat,
Good viewpoint. I think Randy Lerner has finally realized that he can't afford to screw this one up. The Browns have been floundering aimlessly since coming back into the league. The fan base expects more from the franchise given the amount of time that they have been back in the NFL. What message is being sent when established NFL people want no part of one of the most storied franchises in the NFL? I don't think the fans would or should tolerate anymore NFL wannabes.

Gary January 7, 2009 at 10:17 am

I have no idea whether or not Manigi is the answer, certainly Favre was wished upon him to generate interest in the new stadium. As to the rest of his negatives, you might very well be describing Bellichik. So whether or not those traits are good or bad depends upon his W-L record it seems to me. Make no mistake, the fans would gladly accept a BB like demeanor for a BB like result. I do understand the the media doesn't like it though.

Is Heckert a better choice than Kokinis? While you make a wonderful case fot Heckert Sr., Heckert jr.'s draft record doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. Perhaps it does serve Lerner's best interests to interview as many people as possible for both posts, but make no mistake if he interviews a few he's not being thorough enough, if he interviews many, he's being indecisive and someone will write a column or blog on that too.

Ryan January 7, 2009 at 10:31 am

While I love the idea of interviewing Heckert, it sounds to me like it's only something for Randy to do while he waits for the Kokinis interview on Sunday. Seems to me that he knows he would be lambasted if he didn't seek "alternatives" especially since he now has the time, hence the Heckert inquisition. However, at the end of the day, I'd be very surprised if Heckert comes to Cleveland.

Ryan M January 7, 2009 at 12:46 pm

Heckert could come to Cleveland because he doesn't have total control of the 53 MR at Philly. Andy Reid has that control, so Heckert might jump at the chance of running his own show in a different town.

Ryan January 7, 2009 at 1:04 pm

From what I've read, Heckert doesn't really mind his role in Philly and not having all the control. But he could just have said that in order to not ruffle any feathers. Who knows? Just seems odd since Mangini-Kokonis looks more and more like a foregone conclusion.

brownielf January 7, 2009 at 2:48 pm

Gordo McKay won a SB in Tampa with Gruden before moving on to Atlanta

alan t. January 7, 2009 at 3:17 pm

I don't know what a family bloodline has to do with competence, Pat. I suppose some positive traits might follow a Junior from a Senior, but Mike Brown ain't exactly Paul Brown, as one example of countless others out there.

If you're going to analyze the qualifications of a guy, disregard the sperm pedigree. More often than not, what you end up getting is a guy chasing his father's shadows. A dude who would best be served by spending half of his week in the office of a shrink.

s. t. January 7, 2009 at 3:30 pm

alan t., my spidey sense tells me you’re the same alan t. who once lost his retainer on the bus. Seems only fitting that locating you would come to this. How about picking up the phone sometime to let people know you’re still breathing rather than discovering it through the sports page, you a-wipe?

You have my number—it hasn’t changed in 8 years. Of course you’ll claim you lost it, so take 1957 T___ and make the necessary adjustments:
+3 +5 -5 0 -3 +6 +2 +3 +2 +1

terje January 7, 2009 at 4:25 pm

ok, if mangini is going to coach as everyone says…if he does not make the playoffs and win at least one post-season game i would can him in a heartbeat if cowher decides he will coach in cleveland in 2010. call my demands unrealistic but this move will essentially be crennel mark 2 (mark 1.5 if romeo sticks around to coach the defense). crennel mark 2 gets one year.

alan t. January 7, 2009 at 5:03 pm

There should be some kind of law, punishable by death by chocolate, that makes it illegal to have an 85-inch waistline if you're a professional football head coach.

larry d. January 7, 2009 at 8:23 pm

Did you get your retainer back, alan?

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