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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is clearly not all Romeo&#039;s fault. That being said - if you think he is a smart, dynamic football coach - you are really kidding yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is clearly not all Romeo&#039;s fault. That being said &#8211; if you think he is a smart, dynamic football coach &#8211; you are really kidding yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: ClayMatthewsSchoolforLaterals</title>
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		<dc:creator>ClayMatthewsSchoolforLaterals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone who has said how difficult it would be to &quot;start all over again&quot;, again, is correct. It&#039;s painful and it takes time.  But, with any employee, in any kind of workplace, there comes a time when their negative effect on the job and their co-workers far outweighs their contribution.  For that reason, Crennel/Savage should be fired as soon as possible, and the new management can then trade both Winslow &amp; Edwards for additional draft picks to fortify the defense &amp; the special teams.  The first thing Bill Parcells does is fix the special teams, then the defense, and last, the offense.  I&#039;ll take his method for the Browns, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone who has said how difficult it would be to &#034;start all over again&#034;, again, is correct. It&#039;s painful and it takes time.  But, with any employee, in any kind of workplace, there comes a time when their negative effect on the job and their co-workers far outweighs their contribution.  For that reason, Crennel/Savage should be fired as soon as possible, and the new management can then trade both Winslow &amp; Edwards for additional draft picks to fortify the defense &amp; the special teams.  The first thing Bill Parcells does is fix the special teams, then the defense, and last, the offense.  I&#039;ll take his method for the Browns, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding number 8 from your list Pat.

Would you say the Giants are better than the Eagles? This week’s Browns team is practically the same as the team that beat the Giants. Sure the QB was different but so what – we’ve been beat by 3rd string QB’s so why can’t we do the same to other teams. Its upto the coaches to get this team to be prepared to play. Why couldn’t the Browns bring the effort from the Giants game into every week? That’s what good teams like the Patriots and Steelers do. That’s on coaching in my opinion. The season was lost from the beginning when everyone fell for the hype surrounding this team but its upto the coaches to keep the players focused and mentally sharp. They did that for one week and one week only, against the Giants. Every other week this team has shown how badly prepared it is and its been obvious. With this personnel, we still might not have made the playoffs but we’re still nowhere as bad as the record shows. Because of coaching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding number 8 from your list Pat.</p>
<p>Would you say the Giants are better than the Eagles? This week’s Browns team is practically the same as the team that beat the Giants. Sure the QB was different but so what – we’ve been beat by 3rd string QB’s so why can’t we do the same to other teams. Its upto the coaches to get this team to be prepared to play. Why couldn’t the Browns bring the effort from the Giants game into every week? That’s what good teams like the Patriots and Steelers do. That’s on coaching in my opinion. The season was lost from the beginning when everyone fell for the hype surrounding this team but its upto the coaches to keep the players focused and mentally sharp. They did that for one week and one week only, against the Giants. Every other week this team has shown how badly prepared it is and its been obvious. With this personnel, we still might not have made the playoffs but we’re still nowhere as bad as the record shows. Because of coaching.</p>
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		<title>By: ProfPaul</title>
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		<dc:creator>ProfPaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea of skipping the last two games.  Then the Browns could begin the most exciting part of this season, which are the firings and hirings and trades and draftings.  Let the off-season begin!  I&#039;m pumped!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of skipping the last two games.  Then the Browns could begin the most exciting part of this season, which are the firings and hirings and trades and draftings.  Let the off-season begin!  I&#039;m pumped!</p>
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		<title>By: fred4bcowher</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred4bcowher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PRO BOWL VOTE PROVES TOMLIN’S VALUE TO STEELERS
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/12/16/pro-bowl-vote-proves-tomlins-value-to-steelers/

oldchuck, I guess your post RAC watched more film and knows more about football than Tomlin a little off base, 

Steeler Nation currently is up in arms regarding the fact that only three members of the team — James Harrison, James Farrior, and Troy Polamalu — won a spot on the the AFC Pro Bowl roster, with only two of them (Harrison and Polamalu) named as starters.

But let’s be objective.  Look at the full roster, and ask yourself if the Steelers’ starters at the other positions are better than the guys who made it.

Running back Willie Parker has been too banged up, and quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has spent too much time running for his life.  The offensive line has more holes than Andy Reid’s donut stash.  Receiver Hines Ward doesn’t have the numbers, and receiver Santonio Holmes hasn’t exactly put together a breakout year in that supposedly critical third season for a wideout.

On defense, the cornerbacks are good but not close to the three who made it (Asomugha, Finnegan, Revis), and the defensive line has no dominant presence that can overcome the stats-suppressing 3-4 system.

The only guy with a real beef is linebacker LaMarr Woodley, who should have made it over Suggs.  Even then, however, it’s a close call.

In our view, the entire exercise draws into clear focus the value of second-year coach Mike Tomlin to the Steelers.  With a lineup not stocked with the best players in the league, Tomlin has led his team capably through one of the toughest schedules in NFL history.

The fact that the Steelers stand on the brink of swiping the No. 1 seed in the AFC playoffs from the Titans underscores the brilliance of Tomlin’s work.

And so the real snub that should send Steelers fans en masse toward 280 Park Avenue with pitchforks and torches would be a Coach of the Year designation that goes to anyone other than Tomlin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PRO BOWL VOTE PROVES TOMLIN’S VALUE TO STEELERS<br />
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<p>oldchuck, I guess your post RAC watched more film and knows more about football than Tomlin a little off base, </p>
<p>Steeler Nation currently is up in arms regarding the fact that only three members of the team — James Harrison, James Farrior, and Troy Polamalu — won a spot on the the AFC Pro Bowl roster, with only two of them (Harrison and Polamalu) named as starters.</p>
<p>But let’s be objective.  Look at the full roster, and ask yourself if the Steelers’ starters at the other positions are better than the guys who made it.</p>
<p>Running back Willie Parker has been too banged up, and quarterback Ben Roethlisberger has spent too much time running for his life.  The offensive line has more holes than Andy Reid’s donut stash.  Receiver Hines Ward doesn’t have the numbers, and receiver Santonio Holmes hasn’t exactly put together a breakout year in that supposedly critical third season for a wideout.</p>
<p>On defense, the cornerbacks are good but not close to the three who made it (Asomugha, Finnegan, Revis), and the defensive line has no dominant presence that can overcome the stats-suppressing 3-4 system.</p>
<p>The only guy with a real beef is linebacker LaMarr Woodley, who should have made it over Suggs.  Even then, however, it’s a close call.</p>
<p>In our view, the entire exercise draws into clear focus the value of second-year coach Mike Tomlin to the Steelers.  With a lineup not stocked with the best players in the league, Tomlin has led his team capably through one of the toughest schedules in NFL history.</p>
<p>The fact that the Steelers stand on the brink of swiping the No. 1 seed in the AFC playoffs from the Titans underscores the brilliance of Tomlin’s work.</p>
<p>And so the real snub that should send Steelers fans en masse toward 280 Park Avenue with pitchforks and torches would be a Coach of the Year designation that goes to anyone other than Tomlin.</p>
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		<title>By: keith l. Leidel</title>
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		<dc:creator>keith l. Leidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the comments on the call that went for the Steelers and thats your right but make sure you mention the holding call not called against Jacksonville last year in the playoffs.  That cost the Steelers a possible great comeback win in the playoffs.  Yes the league sent the Steelers a letter of appology after the fact.  So the shoe fits both ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the comments on the call that went for the Steelers and thats your right but make sure you mention the holding call not called against Jacksonville last year in the playoffs.  That cost the Steelers a possible great comeback win in the playoffs.  Yes the league sent the Steelers a letter of appology after the fact.  So the shoe fits both ways.</p>
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		<title>By: truthsorter</title>
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		<dc:creator>truthsorter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks -fred,(posted where you are now posting) missing you on the other board oldchuck, where are you? Here I guess. Let&#039;s take atrip down memory lane, shall we.

Posted by oldchuck on 06/18/08 at 1:28PM
I don&#039;t understand the hand wringing about the O line. They&#039;re clearly looking toward the future and trying to find guys who can not only back up the back ups now, but also are coach-able enough to perhaps step up two or three years from now. The team which ought to be wringing their hands about their O line is the vaunted Steelers who, after losing two all pro O linemen over the past two years, have no clue as to who will replace them. Should be open season on &quot;Big&quot; Ben R. for the Smith brothers, Shaun Rogers and Corey Williams. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks -fred,(posted where you are now posting) missing you on the other board oldchuck, where are you? Here I guess. Let&#039;s take atrip down memory lane, shall we.</p>
<p>Posted by oldchuck on 06/18/08 at 1:28PM<br />
I don&#039;t understand the hand wringing about the O line. They&#039;re clearly looking toward the future and trying to find guys who can not only back up the back ups now, but also are coach-able enough to perhaps step up two or three years from now. The team which ought to be wringing their hands about their O line is the vaunted Steelers who, after losing two all pro O linemen over the past two years, have no clue as to who will replace them. Should be open season on &#034;Big&#034; Ben R. for the Smith brothers, Shaun Rogers and Corey Williams. <img src='http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: truthsorter</title>
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		<dc:creator>truthsorter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 01:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oldchuck, -this is a prior post from you

Posted by oldchuck on 04/15/08 at 3:05PM
ctownstinks,

Better save your money cCLOWN, because you don&#039;t have a clue as to how much better this defense is going to be this year. Name an AFC North team with a better O line and D line. And it AIN&#039;T the Pissburgh Squealers, partner!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oldchuck, -this is a prior post from you</p>
<p>Posted by oldchuck on 04/15/08 at 3:05PM<br />
ctownstinks,</p>
<p>Better save your money cCLOWN, because you don&#039;t have a clue as to how much better this defense is going to be this year. Name an AFC North team with a better O line and D line. And it AIN&#039;T the Pissburgh Squealers, partner!</p>
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		<title>By: fred4bcowher</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred4bcowher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 00:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oldchuck

Is wrong again. Robaire Smith, Corey Williams, Shaun Smith, Dqwell Jackson, Wimbley, Leon Williams, Pool, Wright are not good. Go do more than a cursory analysis. &quot;very good talent&quot; No wonder you ashamed to come back to the other board. Dqwell not quick enough from the inside, you want to move him outside? Leon Williams can not beat out MGinest or Davis, starting where? Peek was a stiff in Houston. Titans let Robaire go, Shaun Smith could not start for Bengals, Corey Williams was aprt time player in GB&gt;

Read - above Browns have NO talent. Remember your posts in the summer about RAC and Phil. &quot;remember&quot; &quot;I know football Pal and this team is good.&quot; You were told this was going to happen all last year. This team 3 years away with good drafting which Savage not capable of. A cursory review of your post tells us you know nothing about football.

Savage not any better than Davis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oldchuck</p>
<p>Is wrong again. Robaire Smith, Corey Williams, Shaun Smith, Dqwell Jackson, Wimbley, Leon Williams, Pool, Wright are not good. Go do more than a cursory analysis. &#034;very good talent&#034; No wonder you ashamed to come back to the other board. Dqwell not quick enough from the inside, you want to move him outside? Leon Williams can not beat out MGinest or Davis, starting where? Peek was a stiff in Houston. Titans let Robaire go, Shaun Smith could not start for Bengals, Corey Williams was aprt time player in GB&gt;</p>
<p>Read &#8211; above Browns have NO talent. Remember your posts in the summer about RAC and Phil. &#034;remember&#034; &#034;I know football Pal and this team is good.&#034; You were told this was going to happen all last year. This team 3 years away with good drafting which Savage not capable of. A cursory review of your post tells us you know nothing about football.</p>
<p>Savage not any better than Davis.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Somebody please explain to me how Joe Thomas made it into the next Pro Bowl.  Seriously.  Fans only account for a third of the selection process, so even if he had relatives stuffing all the ballot boxes, it just doesn&#039;t make any sense to me.  As pass protection goes, arsonists don&#039;t get burned as often as this guy.  All I can guess is this dude is doing something fishy during run blocking.  Maybe rubbing cups down in the piles, or something.  That would account for the player voting, but that still wouldn&#039;t account for the coach voting.  Seriously, I don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody please explain to me how Joe Thomas made it into the next Pro Bowl.  Seriously.  Fans only account for a third of the selection process, so even if he had relatives stuffing all the ballot boxes, it just doesn&#039;t make any sense to me.  As pass protection goes, arsonists don&#039;t get burned as often as this guy.  All I can guess is this dude is doing something fishy during run blocking.  Maybe rubbing cups down in the piles, or something.  That would account for the player voting, but that still wouldn&#039;t account for the coach voting.  Seriously, I don&#039;t get it.</p>
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