Comments on: First and 10: We expected different in Tennessee? http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2008/12/09/first-and-10-we-expected-different-in-tennessee/ Musings on the world of sports Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:17:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: terje http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2008/12/09/first-and-10-we-expected-different-in-tennessee/comment-page-1/#comment-1274 terje Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:47:20 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=838#comment-1274 hey pat, inspired by alan i decided to do a little digging. i found this gem from you from back in july.... "Let’s see, the Cleveland Browns are a playoff-caliber team in need of an improved pass rush." from playoff-caliber to a team lacking the talent to compete. wow! so, if the talent was there at the beginning of the season what happened to it in december? aside from qb and d-line the team is relatively healthy. and when quinn or anderson played the team didn't perform any better so that really only leaves the d-line as the depleted unit. something does not compute. where did the talent go? let's assume that the talent level was misjudged by all. the losses mount yet the same talentless players suit up and play every game. supposedly, the talentless players are playing hard and trying to win for the coach yet there is very little evidence to support this. brandon mcdonald continues to make a mockery of the cornerback position and braylon edwards shows very little sign of caring. the few guys on offense who seem to care (cribbs, harrison) are given very little opportunity to show it and the one guy on defense who seems to care can only do so much from the middle of the line. meanwhile, the other talentless players are given no incentive to at least try harder because they are never benched or disciplined in any way. i'm sure you see where i am going with this. look on the bright side. when romeo is deservedly fired you won't have to read my complaining about that aspect of the team anymore. hey pat, inspired by alan i decided to do a little digging. i found this gem from you from back in july….

"Let’s see, the Cleveland Browns are a playoff-caliber team in need of an improved pass rush."

from playoff-caliber to a team lacking the talent to compete. wow! so, if the talent was there at the beginning of the season what happened to it in december? aside from qb and d-line the team is relatively healthy. and when quinn or anderson played the team didn't perform any better so that really only leaves the d-line as the depleted unit. something does not compute. where did the talent go?

let's assume that the talent level was misjudged by all. the losses mount yet the same talentless players suit up and play every game. supposedly, the talentless players are playing hard and trying to win for the coach yet there is very little evidence to support this. brandon mcdonald continues to make a mockery of the cornerback position and braylon edwards shows very little sign of caring. the few guys on offense who seem to care (cribbs, harrison) are given very little opportunity to show it and the one guy on defense who seems to care can only do so much from the middle of the line. meanwhile, the other talentless players are given no incentive to at least try harder because they are never benched or disciplined in any way.

i'm sure you see where i am going with this. look on the bright side. when romeo is deservedly fired you won't have to read my complaining about that aspect of the team anymore.

]]> By: Alex http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2008/12/09/first-and-10-we-expected-different-in-tennessee/comment-page-1/#comment-1273 Alex Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:44:38 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=838#comment-1273 It is a shame that Edwards couldn't get his feet in on that pass, but I must say Cribbs has a really nice arm. He seems to be the only one on the team with any heart left at this point, so I hope on Monday night, maybe he can save one good thing about this season and at least help us go 3-0 on Monday Night Football. May be an overall disappointing season, but that MNF record might help us get back there again. As for the coaching situation... Would you rather be a game away from the Superbowl several times and never get there or be the laughingstock of the league for a decade? Yeah, it's painful remembering The Drive and the Fumble, and Red Right 88, but would you rather not have that kind of disappointment than say, this year's? I'd like to see Marty or Cowher, someone who can take some of these immature players and light a fire under them. Get them motivated, do something! It is a shame that Edwards couldn't get his feet in on that pass, but I must say Cribbs has a really nice arm. He seems to be the only one on the team with any heart left at this point, so I hope on Monday night, maybe he can save one good thing about this season and at least help us go 3-0 on Monday Night Football. May be an overall disappointing season, but that MNF record might help us get back there again.

As for the coaching situation… Would you rather be a game away from the Superbowl several times and never get there or be the laughingstock of the league for a decade? Yeah, it's painful remembering The Drive and the Fumble, and Red Right 88, but would you rather not have that kind of disappointment than say, this year's?

I'd like to see Marty or Cowher, someone who can take some of these immature players and light a fire under them. Get them motivated, do something!

]]> By: Joe http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2008/12/09/first-and-10-we-expected-different-in-tennessee/comment-page-1/#comment-1272 Joe Tue, 09 Dec 2008 19:32:28 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=838#comment-1272 I don't know why everyone is up an arms about the lack of a challenge on cribb's pass. In order for the call to be overturned, the replay would of had to have clearly shown, with little doubt, that edwards did indeed have both feet in bounds. Now I don't have an hd signal like in the sony commercials, but I thought it was plain as day that edwards stepped his right foot down within the white paint. It was close, maybe only a few toes, but it was plain as day. I guess though, considering how desperate the situation was that I wouldn't have minded a challenge, but I don't fault the browns for not doing it. I don't know why everyone is up an arms about the lack of a challenge on cribb's pass. In order for the call to be overturned, the replay would of had to have clearly shown, with little doubt, that edwards did indeed have both feet in bounds. Now I don't have an hd signal like in the sony commercials, but I thought it was plain as day that edwards stepped his right foot down within the white paint. It was close, maybe only a few toes, but it was plain as day.

I guess though, considering how desperate the situation was that I wouldn't have minded a challenge, but I don't fault the browns for not doing it.

]]> By: terje http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2008/12/09/first-and-10-we-expected-different-in-tennessee/comment-page-1/#comment-1271 terje Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:51:05 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=838#comment-1271 pat, you sure know how to soften a guy up! i know the browns aren't that good. i gave up on the hope of playoffs well before you did. i just think your assessment that the browns are lacking talent is off. not of the d of course. but on offense. even with dorsey at quarterback they should still play to win. pat, next time you make it to montana your steak will be on me. we can take our kids out to eat and talk about the weather, the cavs, yellowstone.....anything except the browns. we well just forget they exist and life will be much simpler and sweeter that way. pat, you sure know how to soften a guy up!

i know the browns aren't that good. i gave up on the hope of playoffs well before you did. i just think your assessment that the browns are lacking talent is off. not of the d of course. but on offense. even with dorsey at quarterback they should still play to win.

pat, next time you make it to montana your steak will be on me. we can take our kids out to eat and talk about the weather, the cavs, yellowstone…..anything except the browns. we well just forget they exist and life will be much simpler and sweeter that way.

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