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		<title>By: Drew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh.  To quote my teenage stepdaughters, &quot;Whatever&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh.  To quote my teenage stepdaughters, &#034;Whatever&#034;.</p>
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		<title>By: RandyOSU</title>
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		<dc:creator>RandyOSU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 13:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simply absurd, not a single mention of Crennel&#039;s DEFENSE.  

Enough of this Anderson crap, the guy has zero presence and zero touch.  Those are prerequisites at that position.  Enough please.  Brady was picked #1 for a reason my friend, give it up.

What about the DEFENSE my man?  What about Savage and his construction of the DEFENSE and selection of Crennel as HC?

What about the DEFENSE?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply absurd, not a single mention of Crennel&#039;s DEFENSE.  </p>
<p>Enough of this Anderson crap, the guy has zero presence and zero touch.  Those are prerequisites at that position.  Enough please.  Brady was picked #1 for a reason my friend, give it up.</p>
<p>What about the DEFENSE my man?  What about Savage and his construction of the DEFENSE and selection of Crennel as HC?</p>
<p>What about the DEFENSE?</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Kaser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Kaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nate what is wrong with being a hillbilly from Oregon? I think a remark like that has nothing to do with football. You are just an ignorant person about football. When you don&#039;t have something constructive to say -then you become totally out of it. I hope noone actually finds you because I know some people who are looking for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate what is wrong with being a hillbilly from Oregon? I think a remark like that has nothing to do with football. You are just an ignorant person about football. When you don&#039;t have something constructive to say -then you become totally out of it. I hope noone actually finds you because I know some people who are looking for you.</p>
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		<title>By: terje</title>
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		<dc:creator>terje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>something about blue eyes and brown hair.  i just never liked it.  sorry adriana.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>something about blue eyes and brown hair.  i just never liked it.  sorry adriana.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To think that all this time, until I had the luxury to read these comments, I had been totally unaware that Anderson plays 22 positions.  Thanks for the knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To think that all this time, until I had the luxury to read these comments, I had been totally unaware that Anderson plays 22 positions.  Thanks for the knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 04:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Eric Loughry:  Surely you&#039;re not so dense that you do not understand...D.A. is a .500 QB who received 24 chances to pad his stats.  Uh, duh, no, Brady has not *yet* won 10 games or thrown 29 TDs, only because the morons in charge gave him ONE--count it--ONE freakin series last season.  Talk to us after he&#039;s had 24 games to prove himself, as the hillbilly from Oregon got, and you&#039;ll change your sarcastic tune.

It&#039;s just shocking how many lovers of mediocrity post here.  A guy goes 13-11, and there are people (a minority, thank heavens) who are ready to enshrine him in Canton.  THAT&#039;s truly mind-boggling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Eric Loughry:  Surely you&#039;re not so dense that you do not understand&#8230;D.A. is a .500 QB who received 24 chances to pad his stats.  Uh, duh, no, Brady has not *yet* won 10 games or thrown 29 TDs, only because the morons in charge gave him ONE&#8211;count it&#8211;ONE freakin series last season.  Talk to us after he&#039;s had 24 games to prove himself, as the hillbilly from Oregon got, and you&#039;ll change your sarcastic tune.</p>
<p>It&#039;s just shocking how many lovers of mediocrity post here.  A guy goes 13-11, and there are people (a minority, thank heavens) who are ready to enshrine him in Canton.  THAT&#039;s truly mind-boggling.</p>
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		<title>By: Bubba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and lets not forget, the players that were hurt much of the year like Donte and KW2 are back and playing now so Quinn has no excuses. Maybe he can dink and dump his way to wins and we can all celebrate his greatness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and lets not forget, the players that were hurt much of the year like Donte and KW2 are back and playing now so Quinn has no excuses. Maybe he can dink and dump his way to wins and we can all celebrate his greatness.</p>
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		<title>By: Bubba</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fans are too stupid to understand what a QB is supposed to do. Quinn is cute and has only failed once so far, and they plenty of excuses for that.

Of course Anderson was not the problem. Anyone that understands the NFL knows that. You have Braylon dropping record numbers of passes and Kellen running whatever route he feels like and DA was supposed to what find them in a mass of players looking threw 9 men weighing 300 lbs each as 4 or more of them tried to remove his head?

Now the know nothing Notre Dame fans have their golden boy playing, he better start winning. He was unremarkable in a loss to one of the worst pass defenses in NFL history last week. Lets see what Monday night brings. If he can win games DA will be a forgotten backup until he is on another team and coming to Cleveland as a Pro Bowler and beating us for 300 yards and 4 TD passes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fans are too stupid to understand what a QB is supposed to do. Quinn is cute and has only failed once so far, and they plenty of excuses for that.</p>
<p>Of course Anderson was not the problem. Anyone that understands the NFL knows that. You have Braylon dropping record numbers of passes and Kellen running whatever route he feels like and DA was supposed to what find them in a mass of players looking threw 9 men weighing 300 lbs each as 4 or more of them tried to remove his head?</p>
<p>Now the know nothing Notre Dame fans have their golden boy playing, he better start winning. He was unremarkable in a loss to one of the worst pass defenses in NFL history last week. Lets see what Monday night brings. If he can win games DA will be a forgotten backup until he is on another team and coming to Cleveland as a Pro Bowler and beating us for 300 yards and 4 TD passes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 10:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This piece is spot on, Pat.  Anderson will a good QB somewhere for a long time.  He might not be great, but he will certainly be good.  

But the important point here is about Phil Savage.  Phil is even more to blame for this season than is Romeo.  Not dealing with the secondary was a huge mistake, and not addressing the wide out position was also big.  These two areas were well known problems even before training camp.  JJ wasn&#039;t going to play, the corners were two kids who were small and no sure thing, and we had no one of quality backing them up.  Plus, Sean Jones went down in training camp, and then Stallworth went down with a strained fingernail or something.  

It was a recipe for disaster.  Only blind luck would have had all of that working out for us.  

So what are our two biggest problems 10 weeks in?  Terrible secondary play and more drops than any team in the league, along with poor route running and lots of offensive pass interference calls. Blaming Derek Anderson for all of that is crazy.  It is time for Brady to play now that the season is lost, but anyone who thinks Anderson isn&#039;t a good QB is dreaming.

The worst thing that happened was the funky weather in the Pittsburgh game, getting to play Cincy and their high school quarterback, and the flukey picks in the Giants game made everyone think this defense was really good, when in reality they weren&#039;t even close to being adequate.  

Now, however, the defense is ranked 27th, which is where we have been for 4 years, and really still were even when it appeared through 4 games that we were going to be ok there.  Romeo deserves a lot of blame for this, but Phil has just not made any impact with his defensive roster, save for getting Roger, for whom he had to gut the secondary AND give up a pick.

Also, the HUGE money pickup of Stallworth (the reason Phil cried money problems when he refused to add to the secondary) looks like a HUGE bust right now.  That was an iffy signing to begin with, and it has gone as poorly as it possibly could so far.   Big money and/or big draft picks on wideouts rarely turn out to be worth it.

Fire everybody and hire Cower.  End of story.  

The sad thing is, I really think they are going to win enough games to stay with Phil and Romeo.  Lerner appears inert.  He doesn&#039;t want to have to get out of bed long enough to have to deal with builiding a new organization.  That&#039;s a lot of work for a guy who couldn&#039;t even find the time to issue a statement or make an appearence as the season was circling the drain in the wake of the Winslow fiasco and the terrible start. 

I&#039;m betting 6-10 is enough for Lerner to spend five seconds talking himself into keeping everyone and chalking this season up to bad luck. 

Yeah, four straight years of a last ranked defense.  That&#039;s just bad luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This piece is spot on, Pat.  Anderson will a good QB somewhere for a long time.  He might not be great, but he will certainly be good.  </p>
<p>But the important point here is about Phil Savage.  Phil is even more to blame for this season than is Romeo.  Not dealing with the secondary was a huge mistake, and not addressing the wide out position was also big.  These two areas were well known problems even before training camp.  JJ wasn&#039;t going to play, the corners were two kids who were small and no sure thing, and we had no one of quality backing them up.  Plus, Sean Jones went down in training camp, and then Stallworth went down with a strained fingernail or something.  </p>
<p>It was a recipe for disaster.  Only blind luck would have had all of that working out for us.  </p>
<p>So what are our two biggest problems 10 weeks in?  Terrible secondary play and more drops than any team in the league, along with poor route running and lots of offensive pass interference calls. Blaming Derek Anderson for all of that is crazy.  It is time for Brady to play now that the season is lost, but anyone who thinks Anderson isn&#039;t a good QB is dreaming.</p>
<p>The worst thing that happened was the funky weather in the Pittsburgh game, getting to play Cincy and their high school quarterback, and the flukey picks in the Giants game made everyone think this defense was really good, when in reality they weren&#039;t even close to being adequate.  </p>
<p>Now, however, the defense is ranked 27th, which is where we have been for 4 years, and really still were even when it appeared through 4 games that we were going to be ok there.  Romeo deserves a lot of blame for this, but Phil has just not made any impact with his defensive roster, save for getting Roger, for whom he had to gut the secondary AND give up a pick.</p>
<p>Also, the HUGE money pickup of Stallworth (the reason Phil cried money problems when he refused to add to the secondary) looks like a HUGE bust right now.  That was an iffy signing to begin with, and it has gone as poorly as it possibly could so far.   Big money and/or big draft picks on wideouts rarely turn out to be worth it.</p>
<p>Fire everybody and hire Cower.  End of story.  </p>
<p>The sad thing is, I really think they are going to win enough games to stay with Phil and Romeo.  Lerner appears inert.  He doesn&#039;t want to have to get out of bed long enough to have to deal with builiding a new organization.  That&#039;s a lot of work for a guy who couldn&#039;t even find the time to issue a statement or make an appearence as the season was circling the drain in the wake of the Winslow fiasco and the terrible start. </p>
<p>I&#039;m betting 6-10 is enough for Lerner to spend five seconds talking himself into keeping everyone and chalking this season up to bad luck. </p>
<p>Yeah, four straight years of a last ranked defense.  That&#039;s just bad luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim in Plantation FL</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim in Plantation FL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pat, what you forget to mention about the Washington game was how HORRIBLE Anderson was in the ENTIRE FIRST HALF and early third quarter.  I think he was something like 3 for 14 for 14 yards in the first half.  Didn&#039;t we have like 6 3-and-outs in a row?  There was a drop or two, but he was consistently throwing balls in the grass, over peoples head, couldn&#039;t even throw a screen pass, etc...  Sure, he started looking better late 3rd quarter and the 4th quarter, but it was too late.  We should have had 14-20 points on the board by then.

The thing that puzzled me watching that Washington game was how could he look so good against the Giants and then just fall apart 6 days later?  That Giants game had to be one of the best performances I&#039;ve EVER seen by a QB.  It wasn&#039;t like he was getting tons of pressure constantly from Washington - he had plenty of time most of the time and he couldn&#039;t hit the broad side of a barn if his life depended on it.  In the Giants game, he was making one great throw after another, threading the needle between 2 or 3 defenders, and he was just unstoppable.  I do believe that Anderson has a lot of talent and may still be a great QB some day (he&#039;s still young), but I think his problem is all mental.  He reminds me of a young pitcher that comes up to the big leagues throwing 95-98 mph and is so erratic that he eventually is out of baseball in a few years.  We&#039;ve all seen occasional pitchers like this - they&#039;ll be unhittable for a few innings or even a game here and there, but most of the time they just have no command and keep walking people and grooving the ball down the middle and get hammered.  

I wish him the best next year wherever he gets traded to since I really do like the guy.  I wouldn&#039;t mind him staying and being the backup (or even the starter again if Quinn doesn&#039;t work out), but I doubt that would happen.  I think Quinn has the brains and instincts to be a great QB, but I guess we won&#039;t know one way or the other until he shows us what he can do.  To all of those who think he can&#039;t throw deep just didn&#039;t watch the Denver game I guess.  His arm is plenty strong enough, he just has to work into the offense and I think gradually he&#039;ll work in some deep throws into his arsenal.  But you know, if the short passing game is working and we move down the field and score plenty of points, I don&#039;t see a need to change until the defense shows that it can stop it.  If they do, then hit them deep to keep them honest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pat, what you forget to mention about the Washington game was how HORRIBLE Anderson was in the ENTIRE FIRST HALF and early third quarter.  I think he was something like 3 for 14 for 14 yards in the first half.  Didn&#039;t we have like 6 3-and-outs in a row?  There was a drop or two, but he was consistently throwing balls in the grass, over peoples head, couldn&#039;t even throw a screen pass, etc&#8230;  Sure, he started looking better late 3rd quarter and the 4th quarter, but it was too late.  We should have had 14-20 points on the board by then.</p>
<p>The thing that puzzled me watching that Washington game was how could he look so good against the Giants and then just fall apart 6 days later?  That Giants game had to be one of the best performances I&#039;ve EVER seen by a QB.  It wasn&#039;t like he was getting tons of pressure constantly from Washington &#8211; he had plenty of time most of the time and he couldn&#039;t hit the broad side of a barn if his life depended on it.  In the Giants game, he was making one great throw after another, threading the needle between 2 or 3 defenders, and he was just unstoppable.  I do believe that Anderson has a lot of talent and may still be a great QB some day (he&#039;s still young), but I think his problem is all mental.  He reminds me of a young pitcher that comes up to the big leagues throwing 95-98 mph and is so erratic that he eventually is out of baseball in a few years.  We&#039;ve all seen occasional pitchers like this &#8211; they&#039;ll be unhittable for a few innings or even a game here and there, but most of the time they just have no command and keep walking people and grooving the ball down the middle and get hammered.  </p>
<p>I wish him the best next year wherever he gets traded to since I really do like the guy.  I wouldn&#039;t mind him staying and being the backup (or even the starter again if Quinn doesn&#039;t work out), but I doubt that would happen.  I think Quinn has the brains and instincts to be a great QB, but I guess we won&#039;t know one way or the other until he shows us what he can do.  To all of those who think he can&#039;t throw deep just didn&#039;t watch the Denver game I guess.  His arm is plenty strong enough, he just has to work into the offense and I think gradually he&#039;ll work in some deep throws into his arsenal.  But you know, if the short passing game is working and we move down the field and score plenty of points, I don&#039;t see a need to change until the defense shows that it can stop it.  If they do, then hit them deep to keep them honest.</p>
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