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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2008/09/23/first-and-10-expect-anderson-to-start/comment-page-1/#comment-833</link>
		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 15:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unless the injury is a star quarterback or a star running back, the injury excuses grow tired.  Everybody has injuries every season, and none of the Browns guys with boo-boos are future Hall of Fame material, let alone even current Pro Bowl material.  Stop the silliness about injuries, everybody has them.  Sure, it would be peachy if LeCharles Bentley (who names their kid &quot;LeCharles?) was playing, but he&#039;s not.  Please, cut the apologist crap about injuries being a &quot;contributing factor.&quot;  Call a spade a spade.    

Wasn&#039;t all the hype about Savage, when he came from Baltimore, that his strongest suit was talent evaluation?  I guess that 72-71-1 record while Savage was in Baltimore was actually a mirror of his underlying skills, and perhaps he&#039;s really not as savvy as he initially was made out to be.  There are many examples of questionable decisions, but one that seems fairly representative of his tenure is this blob Shaun Rogers.  Does anybody really think this big fat pig, a guy coming off a drug suspension and a sexual assault charge with a stripper, is going to last beyond next season?  But Savage pawned away a third-round choice and somebody who would come in handy in a putrid secondary in exchange for a bad news Oprah Winfrey look-alike on borrowed time?  Granted, NFL contracts aren&#039;t guaranteed, but still, that personnel move just reeked of desperation, ignorance, or both.  

I still think it&#039;s too soon to call this season over, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s too early to say this Savage guy seems too much like Danny Ferry.  A bonehead who screws the season-ticket holders and requires too many years of job experience under his belt before he finally begins to &quot;get it.&quot;  They may eventually get good under Savage&#039;s front office guidance, but perhaps hiring somebody with more experience in the first place wouldn&#039;t have been such a bad idea.  But then again, when you inherit as much filthy cash as Lerner did, I guess dancing around in his cute little English football/soccer club shorts is just as important to him as what&#039;s stumbling around in a gifted taxpayer-funded stadium next to a lake.  

By the way, don&#039;t billionaires have enough money to do something to stall an accelerated aging process?  What&#039;s going on with the mutant DNA in this guy?  Lerner is in his 40s, but his head looks like it belongs on Grandpa Simpson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unless the injury is a star quarterback or a star running back, the injury excuses grow tired.  Everybody has injuries every season, and none of the Browns guys with boo-boos are future Hall of Fame material, let alone even current Pro Bowl material.  Stop the silliness about injuries, everybody has them.  Sure, it would be peachy if LeCharles Bentley (who names their kid &#034;LeCharles?) was playing, but he&#039;s not.  Please, cut the apologist crap about injuries being a &#034;contributing factor.&#034;  Call a spade a spade.    </p>
<p>Wasn&#039;t all the hype about Savage, when he came from Baltimore, that his strongest suit was talent evaluation?  I guess that 72-71-1 record while Savage was in Baltimore was actually a mirror of his underlying skills, and perhaps he&#039;s really not as savvy as he initially was made out to be.  There are many examples of questionable decisions, but one that seems fairly representative of his tenure is this blob Shaun Rogers.  Does anybody really think this big fat pig, a guy coming off a drug suspension and a sexual assault charge with a stripper, is going to last beyond next season?  But Savage pawned away a third-round choice and somebody who would come in handy in a putrid secondary in exchange for a bad news Oprah Winfrey look-alike on borrowed time?  Granted, NFL contracts aren&#039;t guaranteed, but still, that personnel move just reeked of desperation, ignorance, or both.  </p>
<p>I still think it&#039;s too soon to call this season over, but I don&#039;t think it&#039;s too early to say this Savage guy seems too much like Danny Ferry.  A bonehead who screws the season-ticket holders and requires too many years of job experience under his belt before he finally begins to &#034;get it.&#034;  They may eventually get good under Savage&#039;s front office guidance, but perhaps hiring somebody with more experience in the first place wouldn&#039;t have been such a bad idea.  But then again, when you inherit as much filthy cash as Lerner did, I guess dancing around in his cute little English football/soccer club shorts is just as important to him as what&#039;s stumbling around in a gifted taxpayer-funded stadium next to a lake.  </p>
<p>By the way, don&#039;t billionaires have enough money to do something to stall an accelerated aging process?  What&#039;s going on with the mutant DNA in this guy?  Lerner is in his 40s, but his head looks like it belongs on Grandpa Simpson.</p>
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		<title>By: Salinian</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2008/09/23/first-and-10-expect-anderson-to-start/comment-page-1/#comment-832</link>
		<dc:creator>Salinian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 14:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent remarks, Bubba. What you might also have included are the remarks attributed to Tony Romo (or was it Aaron Rodgers, his Sunday night counterpart?) who opined that the patient manner in which he was brought along before being asked to assume the mantel of full-time NFL QB starter was the correct and proper way to do it. He attributed his successful transition to that mode of development. 

As for Savage, his draft work has not been good. Period. One should certainly expect a professional to make hay with the third-overall selection, which he did twice in the persons of Edwards and Thomas. But one should also expect a guy to cash in on high number-twos. Phil has blundered both Pool and D&#039;Qwell. Neither is an impact guy, though both their positions begged for one to step forward. Meanwhile, impact players---even impact defenders!---remained on the board at the time of their selections. 

Going any deeper into any of his draft classes---save perhaps the twin CBs Wright and McDonald---reveals a guy who might as well have employed darts and a board. 

Considering how needy was the roster he inherited and how highly he was picking in each round, his work has been horrendous! 

What is more, while he has protected his &quot;record&quot; by carrying his draft errors longer than deserving, who is to say he didn&#039;t miss out on several opportunities to enhance personnel with guys who could actually play the sport? To be clear, instead of offering roster spots to waiver-wire discards with genuine potential, he clung to his mistaken choices---not because they could play, but because releasing them would be acknowledging, announcing and moving forward from a personal mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent remarks, Bubba. What you might also have included are the remarks attributed to Tony Romo (or was it Aaron Rodgers, his Sunday night counterpart?) who opined that the patient manner in which he was brought along before being asked to assume the mantel of full-time NFL QB starter was the correct and proper way to do it. He attributed his successful transition to that mode of development. </p>
<p>As for Savage, his draft work has not been good. Period. One should certainly expect a professional to make hay with the third-overall selection, which he did twice in the persons of Edwards and Thomas. But one should also expect a guy to cash in on high number-twos. Phil has blundered both Pool and D&#039;Qwell. Neither is an impact guy, though both their positions begged for one to step forward. Meanwhile, impact players&#8212;even impact defenders!&#8212;remained on the board at the time of their selections. </p>
<p>Going any deeper into any of his draft classes&#8212;save perhaps the twin CBs Wright and McDonald&#8212;reveals a guy who might as well have employed darts and a board. </p>
<p>Considering how needy was the roster he inherited and how highly he was picking in each round, his work has been horrendous! </p>
<p>What is more, while he has protected his &#034;record&#034; by carrying his draft errors longer than deserving, who is to say he didn&#039;t miss out on several opportunities to enhance personnel with guys who could actually play the sport? To be clear, instead of offering roster spots to waiver-wire discards with genuine potential, he clung to his mistaken choices&#8212;not because they could play, but because releasing them would be acknowledging, announcing and moving forward from a personal mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Bubba</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2008/09/23/first-and-10-expect-anderson-to-start/comment-page-1/#comment-831</link>
		<dc:creator>Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And BTW the first sign of a know nothing fan is saying, make a change it could not be worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And BTW the first sign of a know nothing fan is saying, make a change it could not be worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Bubba</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2008/09/23/first-and-10-expect-anderson-to-start/comment-page-1/#comment-830</link>
		<dc:creator>Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Answer: They are not dead set against Brady Quinn starting, in fact Savage used up a first and second round pick in hopes that he would do just that. His reputation is on the line. If you get a backup QB off waivers like Anderson you have done a great job. If you waste a first and second on a QB that can not start you have done a bad job. So Savage has every reason to want Quinn to start. The problem is they see him every day in practice and watched him in preseason games. That is why he is not starting. Plus they got a glimpse of what the Browns could do with Anderson starting. I should not have to remind you of what a QB without time to throw and without wide receivers looks like no matter how good the QB. We have even seen the great and future HOF Peyton Manning look like crap when put in that situation throwing 6 interceptions last year and going 1-2 this year. With three of our four WR out injured and the only good one dropping passes left and right there is little chance of this offense moving no matter which HOF QB you could bring back and start.  People do not want to talk about injuries, excuses are not allowed. But to pretend this team is as good with waiver wire level WR instead of Donte and JJ is foolish. To think the blocking is as good without Tucker and Steinbach again is ignoring reality.

The huge failures in training camp to get this team ready complicated by injuries then insulted by head coaching decisions has put the team on life support. This team can still be very good after the bye week if players return and play as they should based on their talent. Of course that will be too late if the team is 0-4 and maybe too late if they are 1-3.

But the answer is of course Brady Quinn should not be the starter, he is not ready and probably not good enough or the first person that would insist he plays would be Savage. His reputation which has been hugely damaged, can not take another hit of Quinn being a waste of two high picks. If Quinn had shown any, and I do mean ANY ability to be a starter who can move a team he would be the starter even if Savage would have to trade Anderson to force Crennel&#039;s hand. We have seen he is willing to do that. But the fact is Quinn has been a flop, in preseason games, in camp and in practices since. That is the only reason he is not starting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Answer: They are not dead set against Brady Quinn starting, in fact Savage used up a first and second round pick in hopes that he would do just that. His reputation is on the line. If you get a backup QB off waivers like Anderson you have done a great job. If you waste a first and second on a QB that can not start you have done a bad job. So Savage has every reason to want Quinn to start. The problem is they see him every day in practice and watched him in preseason games. That is why he is not starting. Plus they got a glimpse of what the Browns could do with Anderson starting. I should not have to remind you of what a QB without time to throw and without wide receivers looks like no matter how good the QB. We have even seen the great and future HOF Peyton Manning look like crap when put in that situation throwing 6 interceptions last year and going 1-2 this year. With three of our four WR out injured and the only good one dropping passes left and right there is little chance of this offense moving no matter which HOF QB you could bring back and start.  People do not want to talk about injuries, excuses are not allowed. But to pretend this team is as good with waiver wire level WR instead of Donte and JJ is foolish. To think the blocking is as good without Tucker and Steinbach again is ignoring reality.</p>
<p>The huge failures in training camp to get this team ready complicated by injuries then insulted by head coaching decisions has put the team on life support. This team can still be very good after the bye week if players return and play as they should based on their talent. Of course that will be too late if the team is 0-4 and maybe too late if they are 1-3.</p>
<p>But the answer is of course Brady Quinn should not be the starter, he is not ready and probably not good enough or the first person that would insist he plays would be Savage. His reputation which has been hugely damaged, can not take another hit of Quinn being a waste of two high picks. If Quinn had shown any, and I do mean ANY ability to be a starter who can move a team he would be the starter even if Savage would have to trade Anderson to force Crennel&#039;s hand. We have seen he is willing to do that. But the fact is Quinn has been a flop, in preseason games, in camp and in practices since. That is the only reason he is not starting.</p>
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		<title>By: alan t.</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan t.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 05:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regular reader, yes.  Tormentor, no.  Indeed, Rick Redfern, my favorite Doonesbury character of all-time, has just been laid off by the Washington Post.  Honestly, everytime I read the strip over the course of the past few weeks, I thought &quot;Pat.&quot;  Really.  Not that the Beacon Journal will ever get remotely close to being the Washington Post, or even Post Grape Nuts.  But you get the idea.  

Browns-wise, why has Savage gotten the standard local media Danny Ferry kid gloves treatment, both from this scribe and from others?  Correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but didn&#039;t Savage construct this team?  Didn&#039;t Savage hire the head coach that everybody is ragging on?  When Savage won his power struggle with John Collins, everybody in the local media said this was a major victory for Browns football.  Why isn&#039;t anybody taking any shots at Savage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regular reader, yes.  Tormentor, no.  Indeed, Rick Redfern, my favorite Doonesbury character of all-time, has just been laid off by the Washington Post.  Honestly, everytime I read the strip over the course of the past few weeks, I thought &#034;Pat.&#034;  Really.  Not that the Beacon Journal will ever get remotely close to being the Washington Post, or even Post Grape Nuts.  But you get the idea.  </p>
<p>Browns-wise, why has Savage gotten the standard local media Danny Ferry kid gloves treatment, both from this scribe and from others?  Correct me if I&#039;m wrong, but didn&#039;t Savage construct this team?  Didn&#039;t Savage hire the head coach that everybody is ragging on?  When Savage won his power struggle with John Collins, everybody in the local media said this was a major victory for Browns football.  Why isn&#039;t anybody taking any shots at Savage?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are we starting Anderson yet another week?
It seems to be that he is either in some kind of funk or is just having a horrible start. How can we play him after three poor performances already?
Give Brady a shot. He can&#039;t be any worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are we starting Anderson yet another week?<br />
It seems to be that he is either in some kind of funk or is just having a horrible start. How can we play him after three poor performances already?<br />
Give Brady a shot. He can&#039;t be any worse.</p>
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		<title>By: terje</title>
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		<dc:creator>terje</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:56:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>james, a question mark ending a sentence starting with &quot;why&quot; is sufficient.  no need to preface a question with &quot;question:&quot;.

i&#039;ve been done with romeo since the end of year 2.  last year was a fluke.  and if romeo was a good coach they probably make the playoffs.  so what you are telling me pat is that we are probably stuck with this joke of a coach.  great!  cleveland browns football is an nfl joke.  a labor stoppage in a few years may be just what this team needs.  in cleveland, no football may be better than what this team puts on the field.


fire romeo now!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>james, a question mark ending a sentence starting with &#034;why&#034; is sufficient.  no need to preface a question with &#034;question:&#034;.</p>
<p>i&#039;ve been done with romeo since the end of year 2.  last year was a fluke.  and if romeo was a good coach they probably make the playoffs.  so what you are telling me pat is that we are probably stuck with this joke of a coach.  great!  cleveland browns football is an nfl joke.  a labor stoppage in a few years may be just what this team needs.  in cleveland, no football may be better than what this team puts on the field.</p>
<p>fire romeo now!</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 16:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Question:  Why is this team (Crennel and Savage) so dead-set against giving Brady Quinn ANY playing time whatsoever?  The fact that we are in his second full season and he has taken exactly 8 snaps is ludicrous.  Baltimore, in contrast, is 2-0 with a freakin ROOKIE from Delaware.  How did Derek Anderson suddenly emerge as the be-all, end-all quarterback?  Are the officials afraid that if Brady gets in a game, he will play so well that Derek will never be allowed back on the field?  I&#039;m sure that&#039;s Derek&#039;s fear.  Frankly, why Savage is so enamored with a guy so proned to interceptions and mistakes is befuddling, when we drafted a #1 guy who&#039;s just rotting away with a clipboard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question:  Why is this team (Crennel and Savage) so dead-set against giving Brady Quinn ANY playing time whatsoever?  The fact that we are in his second full season and he has taken exactly 8 snaps is ludicrous.  Baltimore, in contrast, is 2-0 with a freakin ROOKIE from Delaware.  How did Derek Anderson suddenly emerge as the be-all, end-all quarterback?  Are the officials afraid that if Brady gets in a game, he will play so well that Derek will never be allowed back on the field?  I&#039;m sure that&#039;s Derek&#039;s fear.  Frankly, why Savage is so enamored with a guy so proned to interceptions and mistakes is befuddling, when we drafted a #1 guy who&#039;s just rotting away with a clipboard.</p>
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