Comments on: Some thoughts on the Cavs trade http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2008/08/14/some-thoughts-on-the-cavs-trade/ Musings on the world of sports Tue, 02 Feb 2010 04:17:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Some thoughts on the Cavs trade · http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2008/08/14/some-thoughts-on-the-cavs-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-627 Some thoughts on the Cavs trade · Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:40:33 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=355#comment-627 [...] News » News Some thoughts on the Cavs trade2008-08-19 18:40:29Cavs are not seem right. —Clearly the Cavs are not afraid to spend money. [...] [...] News » News Some thoughts on the Cavs trade2008-08-19 18:40:29Cavs are not seem right. —Clearly the Cavs are not afraid to spend money. [...]

]]> By: Swig http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2008/08/14/some-thoughts-on-the-cavs-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-617 Swig Mon, 18 Aug 2008 00:05:54 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=355#comment-617 About this "shoot first" player thing. 1) His 6.x assists per game ranked 13th in the league last year. And that will be second best on our team. 2) 82games.com does some crazy stat crunching. Not sure exactly how they came up with this... http://www.82games.com/FGSORT7.HTM Mo Williams has the 2nd best jump shot % in the game. Why wouldn't you want him shooting a lot? ~Adam P.S. Glad 1st & 10 is back. Sucks "blog" is in the url because it gets blocked at work. About this "shoot first" player thing.

1) His 6.x assists per game ranked 13th in the league last year. And that will be second best on our team.
2) 82games.com does some crazy stat crunching. Not sure exactly how they came up with this…
http://www.82games.com/FGSORT7.HTM
Mo Williams has the 2nd best jump shot % in the game. Why wouldn't you want him shooting a lot?

~Adam

P.S. Glad 1st & 10 is back. Sucks "blog" is in the url because it gets blocked at work.

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]]> By: Year Three · http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2008/08/14/some-thoughts-on-the-cavs-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-606 Year Three · Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:50:39 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=355#comment-606 [...] News » News Some thoughts on the Cavs trade2008-08-14 16:50:36Cavs are not seem right. —Clearly the Cavs are not afraid to spend money. [...] [...] News » News Some thoughts on the Cavs trade2008-08-14 16:50:36Cavs are not seem right. —Clearly the Cavs are not afraid to spend money. [...]

]]> By: larry d. http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2008/08/14/some-thoughts-on-the-cavs-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-605 larry d. Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:31:57 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=355#comment-605 I can't see Coach Brown going with a backcourt rotation as small as Gibson, Williams and West would be. I wouldn't be surprised if Pavlovic still starts. They should trade Big Z for Nene and then West, Pavlovic and Snow's expiring contract for Jason Richardson. I can't see Coach Brown going with a backcourt rotation as small as Gibson, Williams and West would be. I wouldn't be surprised if Pavlovic still starts.

They should trade Big Z for Nene and then West, Pavlovic and Snow's expiring contract for Jason Richardson.

]]> By: alan t. http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2008/08/14/some-thoughts-on-the-cavs-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-604 alan t. Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:45:54 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=355#comment-604 I don't get it, Ed. Did you proofread that ultra-sweet $5 million tax abatement very quietly deposited in Gilbert's coffers in exchange for opening a Quicken Loans office in Cleveland? If you didn't, I wish you had. Precisely what does "a paid proofreader in the mortgage industry" do? Anyway, who cares about a few misspelled words? I worry far more about Pat's musical sensibility. Toby Keith??? I don't get it, Ed. Did you proofread that ultra-sweet $5 million tax abatement very quietly deposited in Gilbert's coffers in exchange for opening a Quicken Loans office in Cleveland? If you didn't, I wish you had. Precisely what does "a paid proofreader in the mortgage industry" do?

Anyway, who cares about a few misspelled words? I worry far more about Pat's musical sensibility. Toby Keith???

]]> By: TheOUTLAW http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2008/08/14/some-thoughts-on-the-cavs-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-603 TheOUTLAW Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:13:14 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=355#comment-603 It is sad to see Smith go and frankly I'll miss Damon as well. But it is the kind of move that needed to be done with Delonte asking for more that he actually deserves. I don't know why anyone thinks that Varejao is on his way out however. If anything the Cavs are short in the frontcourt and rapidly aging. It'd take another young big to pry Anderson away. Sure he wants more money than he's worth, but the fact is we can pay him more than anyone even as a free agent. It is sad to see Smith go and frankly I'll miss Damon as well. But it is the kind of move that needed to be done with Delonte asking for more that he actually deserves. I don't know why anyone thinks that Varejao is on his way out however. If anything the Cavs are short in the frontcourt and rapidly aging. It'd take another young big to pry Anderson away. Sure he wants more money than he's worth, but the fact is we can pay him more than anyone even as a free agent.

]]> By: Ed Haas http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2008/08/14/some-thoughts-on-the-cavs-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-602 Ed Haas Thu, 14 Aug 2008 18:10:22 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=355#comment-602 Love the trade, as long as Mike Brown can get him to have at least an average year defensively. Noticed that you spelled quiet, "quite". Does the Journal need a proof reader? I've noticed more and more spelling errors online than any other news source. I'm not saying that to be mean or anything, just my observation. I'd be willing to take that position by the way, I've been a paid proofreader in the mortgage industry for a while now. Love the trade, as long as Mike Brown can get him to have at least an average year defensively.

Noticed that you spelled quiet, "quite". Does the Journal need a proof reader? I've noticed more and more spelling errors online than any other news source. I'm not saying that to be mean or anything, just my observation. I'd be willing to take that position by the way, I've been a paid proofreader in the mortgage industry for a while now.

]]> By: alan t. http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2008/08/14/some-thoughts-on-the-cavs-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-600 alan t. Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:41:33 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=355#comment-600 You're not the first guy to write that purported "not afraid to spend money" line, but that's not necessarily true. Could you be putting the cart before the horse? First, so far they've actually saved themselves ballpark $2 million for this season alone, taking potential luxury tax into account. Nobody has mentioned that. And, it wouldn't be shocking if they ultimately get very close to the luxury tax threshold, and possibly even under the threshold by the time it's all said and done. Varejao and Szczerbiak are on borrowed time with the team, and may be traded for salaries that don't come close to matching. Who knows, they may even toss Gibson out there to eventually get a deal done. With respect to that future salary they're supposedly "spending," don't neglect the fact that Wallace's and Ilguaskas' nutty salaries will be gone. So, absent signing some other guys with equally crazy paychecks, are they really "spending" money? Particularly if they lose James, and then they dive into the lottery and add some rookie salaries to rebuild. They just might end up having a middle-of-the-road NBA payroll, and Williams just may be the highest-paid/overpaid player on it. You're not the first guy to write that purported "not afraid to spend money" line, but that's not necessarily true. Could you be putting the cart before the horse?

First, so far they've actually saved themselves ballpark $2 million for this season alone, taking potential luxury tax into account. Nobody has mentioned that. And, it wouldn't be shocking if they ultimately get very close to the luxury tax threshold, and possibly even under the threshold by the time it's all said and done. Varejao and Szczerbiak are on borrowed time with the team, and may be traded for salaries that don't come close to matching. Who knows, they may even toss Gibson out there to eventually get a deal done.

With respect to that future salary they're supposedly "spending," don't neglect the fact that Wallace's and Ilguaskas' nutty salaries will be gone. So, absent signing some other guys with equally crazy paychecks, are they really "spending" money? Particularly if they lose James, and then they dive into the lottery and add some rookie salaries to rebuild. They just might end up having a middle-of-the-road NBA payroll, and Williams just may be the highest-paid/overpaid player on it.

]]> By: Tommy http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/2008/08/14/some-thoughts-on-the-cavs-trade/comment-page-1/#comment-596 Tommy Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:59:33 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/mcmanamon/?p=355#comment-596 I like the trade. I too will miss Joe. He did the little things and was just consistent...something this team has needed. Maybe they cut Joe loose and we can pick him back up. I like the trade. I too will miss Joe. He did the little things and was just consistent…something this team has needed.

Maybe they cut Joe loose and we can pick him back up.

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