Comments on: Maybe not so bad http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/ledger/2007/11/12/maybe-not-so-bad/ RON LEDGARD, the Beacon Journal deputy sports editor, ON SPORTS ... AND OTHER STUFF Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:12:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Phillip http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/ledger/2007/11/12/maybe-not-so-bad/#comment-2471 Phillip Wed, 14 Nov 2007 03:52:04 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/ledger/2007/11/12/maybe-not-so-bad/#comment-2471 For once, I actually agree with Alan T. The Cavs are SOOOOO hard to watch. That plodding excuse for an offense, one brick after another clanging off the rim, while other teams simply set up...and SWISH! Any coach or front office that believes fans just want to watch "good defense" are kidding themselves. Defense is boring...and please don't hand me that crap about "defense winning championships." There has to be an OFFENSE to go with it! Just ask the Spurs!! Do you think I would ever, ever spend $95 for a ticket to watch a Cavs game, when they are subject to their Opening Night performance, when they (quote) "didn't play with energy, didn't play hard, etc."?? Shouldn't we paying customers get a refund for a jip like that? Last year's Browns were UNWATCHABLE, just as the Tribe was for much of this season! Why?? No offense!! Are these Cleveland teams just trying to bore the fans to death???? For once, I actually agree with Alan T. The Cavs are SOOOOO hard to watch. That plodding excuse for an offense, one brick after another clanging off the rim, while other teams simply set up…and SWISH! Any coach or front office that believes fans just want to watch "good defense" are kidding themselves. Defense is boring…and please don't hand me that crap about "defense winning championships." There has to be an OFFENSE to go with it! Just ask the Spurs!!

Do you think I would ever, ever spend $95 for a ticket to watch a Cavs game, when they are subject to their Opening Night performance, when they (quote) "didn't play with energy, didn't play hard, etc."?? Shouldn't we paying customers get a refund for a jip like that?

Last year's Browns were UNWATCHABLE, just as the Tribe was for much of this season! Why?? No offense!! Are these Cleveland teams just trying to bore the fans to death????

]]> By: alan t. http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/ledger/2007/11/12/maybe-not-so-bad/#comment-2434 alan t. Tue, 13 Nov 2007 21:36:53 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/ledger/2007/11/12/maybe-not-so-bad/#comment-2434 Ron, really, why even throw a reader a bone? I just re-read your response ... you clearly don't think the Cavs are worth watching, you think James is worth watching. So why not just say it? Take away James, and even Fratello's boring methodical approach had greater entertainment value for the masses. The Cavs aren't merely boring to watch, they're often downright ugly. Boring and ugly. And yet, Gilbert and his lackeys were able to con over 16,000 season-ticket holders to actually pay for it. It's like paying high ticket prices to see a great actor perform in a bad movie. Just say it. Who are you going to offend, Johnny? Ron, really, why even throw a reader a bone? I just re-read your response … you clearly don't think the Cavs are worth watching, you think James is worth watching. So why not just say it? Take away James, and even Fratello's boring methodical approach had greater entertainment value for the masses. The Cavs aren't merely boring to watch, they're often downright ugly. Boring and ugly. And yet, Gilbert and his lackeys were able to con over 16,000 season-ticket holders to actually pay for it. It's like paying high ticket prices to see a great actor perform in a bad movie. Just say it. Who are you going to offend, Johnny?

]]> By: alan t. http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/ledger/2007/11/12/maybe-not-so-bad/#comment-2417 alan t. Tue, 13 Nov 2007 18:45:31 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/ledger/2007/11/12/maybe-not-so-bad/#comment-2417 Yes, Johnny, you're absolutely right, if there's anything I want more of, it's more blind fawning over Cleveland sports front offices and the Buckeyes. There's just not enough of that in the Akron and Cleveland area newspapers and blogs. We need much more. Ron, return to your Pennsylvania Amish brethren. You anti-Ohio heathen. And Johnny, I have one extra Blue Jackets ticket for tomorrow night's game against Chicago. Wanna come with me? If you do, here's a brief hockey primer: the red line is red, the blue line is blue. Yes, Johnny, you're absolutely right, if there's anything I want more of, it's more blind fawning over Cleveland sports front offices and the Buckeyes. There's just not enough of that in the Akron and Cleveland area newspapers and blogs. We need much more.

Ron, return to your Pennsylvania Amish brethren. You anti-Ohio heathen.

And Johnny, I have one extra Blue Jackets ticket for tomorrow night's game against Chicago. Wanna come with me? If you do, here's a brief hockey primer: the red line is red, the blue line is blue.

]]> By: Ron http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/ledger/2007/11/12/maybe-not-so-bad/#comment-2406 Ron Tue, 13 Nov 2007 16:17:54 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/ledger/2007/11/12/maybe-not-so-bad/#comment-2406 Anti-Ohio? What is wrong with saying Ohio State is going to the Rose Bowl and the Browns are going to the playoffs. What I am not doing is getting caught up in the emotions. Ohio State has had trouble with spread offenses and Illinois exploited that. The Browns' defense is the worst in the NFL statistically and the Steelers exploited that. The Cavs lack weapons, but at the end of the day, if they play solid defense they are going to the playoffs. Are these championship teams? No. Are the worth watching? Yes. Anti-Ohio? What is wrong with saying Ohio State is going to the Rose Bowl and the Browns are going to the playoffs. What I am not doing is getting caught up in the emotions. Ohio State has had trouble with spread offenses and Illinois exploited that. The Browns' defense is the worst in the NFL statistically and the Steelers exploited that. The Cavs lack weapons, but at the end of the day, if they play solid defense they are going to the playoffs. Are these championship teams? No. Are the worth watching? Yes.

]]> By: Johnny http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/ledger/2007/11/12/maybe-not-so-bad/#comment-2380 Johnny Tue, 13 Nov 2007 09:02:03 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/ledger/2007/11/12/maybe-not-so-bad/#comment-2380 I agree. Ledgard is anti-Ohio. He should go back to PA and enjoy his hockey. This blog is almost a big of a joke as the beacon journal. I agree. Ledgard is anti-Ohio. He should go back to PA and enjoy his hockey. This blog is almost a big of a joke as the beacon journal.

]]> By: Americas Army Rise of a Soldier » Maybe not so bad http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/ledger/2007/11/12/maybe-not-so-bad/#comment-2328 Americas Army Rise of a Soldier » Maybe not so bad Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:48:26 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/ledger/2007/11/12/maybe-not-so-bad/#comment-2328 [...] Oliver Willis wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptOhio State did lose to Illinois but the Buckeyes still should win Saturday against Michigan and then go to the Rose Bowl. The Browns did lose to the Steelers on Sunday but their schedule sets up for a playoff run. … [...] [...] Oliver Willis wrote an interesting post today onHere's a quick excerptOhio State did lose to Illinois but the Buckeyes still should win Saturday against Michigan and then go to the Rose Bowl. The Browns did lose to the Steelers on Sunday but their schedule sets up for a playoff run. … [...]

]]> By: Common Sense1 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/ledger/2007/11/12/maybe-not-so-bad/#comment-2322 Common Sense1 Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:37:38 +0000 http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/ledger/2007/11/12/maybe-not-so-bad/#comment-2322 Shut up, man. Not that bad? We lost a National Championship, dude. For some teams, that's a once in a lifetime deal. How the Bucks could have such a letdown on Senior Day at home with so much riding on the outcome is mind-boggling. And the Browns losing to Pittsturd...not that bad?! How many times do we have to get our hopes up, only to have it all crash down? I think we all knew that a 21-9 halftime lead was n-o-t-h-i-n-g. Derek Anderson showed that he is Derek Anderson. Can we please temper the excitement over a guy who has excelled against winless Miami and St. Louis? Maybe all the "trade Brady" nonsense will end now. Not that bad...yeah, right. (And the Billick note is nothing compared to what he has to face everyday: his reflection.) Shut up, man. Not that bad? We lost a National Championship, dude. For some teams, that's a once in a lifetime deal. How the Bucks could have such a letdown on Senior Day at home with so much riding on the outcome is mind-boggling.

And the Browns losing to Pittsturd…not that bad?! How many times do we have to get our hopes up, only to have it all crash down? I think we all knew that a 21-9 halftime lead was n-o-t-h-i-n-g. Derek Anderson showed that he is Derek Anderson. Can we please temper the excitement over a guy who has excelled against winless Miami and St. Louis? Maybe all the "trade Brady" nonsense will end now. Not that bad…yeah, right. (And the Billick note is nothing compared to what he has to face everyday: his reflection.)

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