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	<title>Comments on: Long Night, Short Takes: &#034;The Office,&#034; &#034;Grey&#039;s Anatomy,&#034; &#034;Survivor&#034; (Some Spoilers) (Now With &#034;CSI&#034; Added)</title>
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		<title>By: Dan Kadar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Kadar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 19:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone else notice Michael mutter "I did it" after he kissed Oscar? I didn't, but producer Greg Daniels pointed it out during a live-blog/chat on NBC.com last night. 



For me, the best show on TV, easily.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone else notice Michael mutter &#034;I did it&#034; after he kissed Oscar? I didn&#039;t, but producer Greg Daniels pointed it out during a live-blog/chat on NBC.com last night. </p>
<p>For me, the best show on TV, easily.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 15:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's not forget the hilarious throwaway lines, like Michael's dissing of poor Phyllis (amazed she was engaged), Jim's co-worker girl mimicking his eye-expressions to the camera ("What IS that?"), Crede's priceless confession that he had lots of sex outside in the mud during the 60s and that "a man could've slid in there...there'd be no way of knowing"; oh man, I could go on and on.  The show lived up to its Best Comedy Emmy in every way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#039;s not forget the hilarious throwaway lines, like Michael&#039;s dissing of poor Phyllis (amazed she was engaged), Jim&#039;s co-worker girl mimicking his eye-expressions to the camera (&#034;What IS that?&#034;), Crede&#039;s priceless confession that he had lots of sex outside in the mud during the 60s and that &#034;a man could&#039;ve slid in there&#8230;there&#039;d be no way of knowing&#034;; oh man, I could go on and on.  The show lived up to its Best Comedy Emmy in every way.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Heldenfels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Heldenfels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We'll just disagree, Larry. And Gus, you're on the money. Both versions of ''The Office'' have deliberately made viewers uncomfortable by being merciless about the flaws and verbal excesses of their central characters. The U.S. version has occasionally let us recognize that Michael has some ability -- that he is a very good salesman, for instance, and that he can charm women -- but it has never let that hide the fact that he is a terrible office manager. And, as we saw again last night, terrible in so many ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#039;ll just disagree, Larry. And Gus, you&#039;re on the money. Both versions of &#034;The Office&#034; have deliberately made viewers uncomfortable by being merciless about the flaws and verbal excesses of their central characters. The U.S. version has occasionally let us recognize that Michael has some ability &#8212; that he is a very good salesman, for instance, and that he can charm women &#8212; but it has never let that hide the fact that he is a terrible office manager. And, as we saw again last night, terrible in so many ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Gus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 14:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve Carell was at his creepiest last night (I'm having to bite my cheek every time I think about him being sensitive because he watches "Queer as F***" on Showtime).  Michael was within inches of becoming David Brent, but as always he managed to pull back from the brink.  



Last night in particular got me thinking about all those great Internet battles of years gone by (Kirk vs. Picard, Joel Hodgson vs. Mike Nelson, etc.).  I'm sure last night's episode would be great ammunition in the David Brent vs. Michael Scott battle that no doubt is brewing out there somewhere.



My wife was telling me that on her message boards many people were complaining about how "uncomfortable" last night's show made them.  Frankly, I've always thought that was the point of The Office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve Carell was at his creepiest last night (I&#039;m having to bite my cheek every time I think about him being sensitive because he watches &#034;Queer as F***&#034; on Showtime).  Michael was within inches of becoming David Brent, but as always he managed to pull back from the brink.  </p>
<p>Last night in particular got me thinking about all those great Internet battles of years gone by (Kirk vs. Picard, Joel Hodgson vs. Mike Nelson, etc.).  I&#039;m sure last night&#039;s episode would be great ammunition in the David Brent vs. Michael Scott battle that no doubt is brewing out there somewhere.</p>
<p>My wife was telling me that on her message boards many people were complaining about how &#034;uncomfortable&#034; last night&#039;s show made them.  Frankly, I&#039;ve always thought that was the point of The Office.</p>
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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess seeing "Survivor" as solid entertainment is one of the hazards of watching so much TV, Rich. That show is a pox on our culture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess seeing &#034;Survivor&#034; as solid entertainment is one of the hazards of watching so much TV, Rich. That show is a pox on our culture.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Office was great.  I was laughing and cringing at how uncomfortable it was at the same time.  The fact that the Gaydar bit was simply tossed in at the end as an afterthought has to have you feeling really good about the writing on that show that they can have that bit as a simple throw-away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Office was great.  I was laughing and cringing at how uncomfortable it was at the same time.  The fact that the Gaydar bit was simply tossed in at the end as an afterthought has to have you feeling really good about the writing on that show that they can have that bit as a simple throw-away.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Heldenfels</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Heldenfels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those comments are about throwing the challenge, Larry, not about the show overall. Beyond that, I've watched ''Survivor'' from the beginning and it has often been solid entertainment, sometimes even more than that. (''Survivor: Palau,'' with Tom Westman winning and the saga of Stephenie LaGrossa, comes immediately to mind.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those comments are about throwing the challenge, Larry, not about the show overall. Beyond that, I&#039;ve watched &#034;Survivor&#034; from the beginning and it has often been solid entertainment, sometimes even more than that. (&#034;Survivor: Palau,&#034; with Tom Westman winning and the saga of Stephenie LaGrossa, comes immediately to mind.)</p>
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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"it felt really stupid tonight ... I resented the tasteful sham involved ... the smug comments that followed made it even more so ... That's about human decency"



Where have you been the last five years? "Survivor" has always been a tasteless, stupid sham and why anyone would watch and review the show is beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#034;it felt really stupid tonight &#8230; I resented the tasteful sham involved &#8230; the smug comments that followed made it even more so &#8230; That&#039;s about human decency&#034;</p>
<p>Where have you been the last five years? &#034;Survivor&#034; has always been a tasteless, stupid sham and why anyone would watch and review the show is beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Sep 2006 07:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's not a single show on TV that has me literally crying with laughter every week except The Office.  I agree, there's no other word for the premiere episode other than "genius."  I make sure to tape it each week, just so I can watch it again to catch the nuances I may have missed, and it's always just as funny the 2nd time.  Michael's comments, Dwight's faces (and trying to kiss Oscar)...everything was absolutely hilarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#039;s not a single show on TV that has me literally crying with laughter every week except The Office.  I agree, there&#039;s no other word for the premiere episode other than &#034;genius.&#034;  I make sure to tape it each week, just so I can watch it again to catch the nuances I may have missed, and it&#039;s always just as funny the 2nd time.  Michael&#039;s comments, Dwight&#039;s faces (and trying to kiss Oscar)&#8230;everything was absolutely hilarious.</p>
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