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	<title>Comments on: &#034;Rescue Me&#034;</title>
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	<description>Movies, TV and Popular Culture with Rich Heldenfels</description>
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		<title>By: Glaivester</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/heldenfiles/2006/07/19/rescue-me/#comment-418</link>
		<dc:creator>Glaivester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jul 2006 01:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead, there's an incredible self-congratulation on display, an insistence to the viewers that women find Gavin's endowment not only irresistible but all they require for sexual satisfaction.



How do you know that Sheila wasn't warming herself up while talking to Tommy at the table while he was losing consciousness?



Besides, that's not how I see it as all.  Sheila's rape of Tommy was a nearly exact parallel of his rape of Janet.  After their relationship earlier in the series, she feels that he is hers.  It is obvious that she has been trying to get back together with him (notice how she tried to come on to him when he was crying about his son).  She has been trying (unsuccessfully so far, as far as I can tell) to get him to make a sufficient deposit at a sperm bank so she can have his kid.  And now she finds out that he is having an affair of sorts with a women she considers a friend.  



She's reclaiming her "property" just as Tommy was with his wife.  And perhaps trying to get herself pregnant in the bargain.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead, there&#039;s an incredible self-congratulation on display, an insistence to the viewers that women find Gavin&#039;s endowment not only irresistible but all they require for sexual satisfaction.</p>
<p>How do you know that Sheila wasn&#039;t warming herself up while talking to Tommy at the table while he was losing consciousness?</p>
<p>Besides, that&#039;s not how I see it as all.  Sheila&#039;s rape of Tommy was a nearly exact parallel of his rape of Janet.  After their relationship earlier in the series, she feels that he is hers.  It is obvious that she has been trying to get back together with him (notice how she tried to come on to him when he was crying about his son).  She has been trying (unsuccessfully so far, as far as I can tell) to get him to make a sufficient deposit at a sperm bank so she can have his kid.  And now she finds out that he is having an affair of sorts with a women she considers a friend.  </p>
<p>She&#039;s reclaiming her &#034;property&#034; just as Tommy was with his wife.  And perhaps trying to get herself pregnant in the bargain.</p>
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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/heldenfiles/2006/07/19/rescue-me/#comment-417</link>
		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2006 10:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She not only raped him, she stalked him on his date with Marisa Tomei's character and acted as if she was living at his place when he returned home (as a spouse, with pot roast and everything). Of course it would be viewed as very creepy if the gender roles were reversed. 



There was another female, "marital" rape of sorts in the latest episode, too: Tommy's sister pretty much exchanges monogamous sex with a firefighter for the chance to see him get beaten up on the street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She not only raped him, she stalked him on his date with Marisa Tomei&#039;s character and acted as if she was living at his place when he returned home (as a spouse, with pot roast and everything). Of course it would be viewed as very creepy if the gender roles were reversed. </p>
<p>There was another female, &#034;marital&#034; rape of sorts in the latest episode, too: Tommy&#039;s sister pretty much exchanges monogamous sex with a firefighter for the chance to see him get beaten up on the street.</p>
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		<title>By: Trilby</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/heldenfiles/2006/07/19/rescue-me/#comment-416</link>
		<dc:creator>Trilby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 14:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops. Forgot- Tommy's wife is a character, not real. Still, who hasn't had sex with an ex, I ask you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. Forgot- Tommy&#039;s wife is a character, not real. Still, who hasn&#039;t had sex with an ex, I ask you!</p>
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		<title>By: Trilby</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/heldenfiles/2006/07/19/rescue-me/#comment-415</link>
		<dc:creator>Trilby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 14:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for noticing, Larry. Yes, I am still waiting for commentary on the fact that Tommy was RAPED this past week. Was it maybe a response to the outrage expressed about his "rape" of his ex-wife? 



You know, yes, I made light of it, but let's be clear, rape is a lot of things. The rape of an 8 year old girl is different from the rape of an experienced woman. The rape by a repulsive stanger at knifepoint is different from the "rape" by an ex-husband with you have had sex countless times. It just is!



I was once raped by two gorgeous men, one of whom I had been in love with. Too much information? Sorry, but I want to defend my comment (above). It is a "whole nubba leval" so to speak.



Rape enters some women's fantasies. Again, that does not mean you wish it to happen or, especially wish to be BRUTALLY raped by a stranger.



Tommy's wife was not all that offended. Should WE be more offended than she was?



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for noticing, Larry. Yes, I am still waiting for commentary on the fact that Tommy was RAPED this past week. Was it maybe a response to the outrage expressed about his &#034;rape&#034; of his ex-wife? </p>
<p>You know, yes, I made light of it, but let&#039;s be clear, rape is a lot of things. The rape of an 8 year old girl is different from the rape of an experienced woman. The rape by a repulsive stanger at knifepoint is different from the &#034;rape&#034; by an ex-husband with you have had sex countless times. It just is!</p>
<p>I was once raped by two gorgeous men, one of whom I had been in love with. Too much information? Sorry, but I want to defend my comment (above). It is a &#034;whole nubba leval&#034; so to speak.</p>
<p>Rape enters some women&#039;s fantasies. Again, that does not mean you wish it to happen or, especially wish to be BRUTALLY raped by a stranger.</p>
<p>Tommy&#039;s wife was not all that offended. Should WE be more offended than she was?</p>
<p>I&#039;m just saying&#039;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/heldenfiles/2006/07/19/rescue-me/#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Out of curiousity I went back and read past "Rescue Me" posts on this blog and it strikes me that men who comment on the rape scene seem much more offended than the women who comment. 



Trilby, in fact, makes light of the matter, only to be lightly scolded. She also asks about the rape of the male character, which is never acknowledged.



I'm not being critical, it's just interesting and might show how the myth of heroic manhood, gender identity and sex/violence/rape are intertwined in very complex ways.   



I guess I'm playing devil's advocate, but I suspect the show's writers may be aware of those complexities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of curiousity I went back and read past &#034;Rescue Me&#034; posts on this blog and it strikes me that men who comment on the rape scene seem much more offended than the women who comment. </p>
<p>Trilby, in fact, makes light of the matter, only to be lightly scolded. She also asks about the rape of the male character, which is never acknowledged.</p>
<p>I&#039;m not being critical, it&#039;s just interesting and might show how the myth of heroic manhood, gender identity and sex/violence/rape are intertwined in very complex ways.   </p>
<p>I guess I&#039;m playing devil&#039;s advocate, but I suspect the show&#039;s writers may be aware of those complexities.</p>
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		<title>By: veryoldperson</title>
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		<dc:creator>veryoldperson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 09:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're absolutely correct, Rich. Tolan and Leary tried to defend the indefensible. No matter how much silk fabric is used to explain away that rape scene, it is still a cow's ear.



What I find interesting is that a very good show was reduced to ashes with this storyline. What began with a premiere that transcended most dramas on the air today has become an ode to Tommy Gavin's nether regions. It is laughable and incomprehensible. Tommy 'ain't all that'.



The women on his show are caricatures and an insult to intelligent women everywhere. Supposedly another writer penned these objectionable episodes, but the buck still stops with Tolan and Leary, and they should both be ashamed of themselves.



I'm not impressed with Tolan's authorship, either on this show or his attempt at a defense on TWoP (where I've been banned, by the way, over this abomination), but I expected more of Leary. His past writing and acting were awe inspiring. With this storyline, he has descended to the level of television without conscience. Never mind the lack of morality or insult to females he has portrayed, it is just bad television.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#039;re absolutely correct, Rich. Tolan and Leary tried to defend the indefensible. No matter how much silk fabric is used to explain away that rape scene, it is still a cow&#039;s ear.</p>
<p>What I find interesting is that a very good show was reduced to ashes with this storyline. What began with a premiere that transcended most dramas on the air today has become an ode to Tommy Gavin&#039;s nether regions. It is laughable and incomprehensible. Tommy &#039;ain&#039;t all that&#039;.</p>
<p>The women on his show are caricatures and an insult to intelligent women everywhere. Supposedly another writer penned these objectionable episodes, but the buck still stops with Tolan and Leary, and they should both be ashamed of themselves.</p>
<p>I&#039;m not impressed with Tolan&#039;s authorship, either on this show or his attempt at a defense on TWoP (where I&#039;ve been banned, by the way, over this abomination), but I expected more of Leary. His past writing and acting were awe inspiring. With this storyline, he has descended to the level of television without conscience. Never mind the lack of morality or insult to females he has portrayed, it is just bad television.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Heldenfels</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/heldenfiles/2006/07/19/rescue-me/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Heldenfels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 03:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not funny, Trilby. And other critics are addressing the issue, among them my colleague Alan Sepinwall at www.sepinwall.blogspot.com. Maureen Ryan has also written a lot about what's happened to ''Rescue Me,'' at featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com (no www in front of that address), including the transcript of a conversation between reporters and a top FX executive at: 

&lt;a href="http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2006/07/rescue_me_and_t.html#more" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2006/07/rescue_me_and_t.html#more&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not funny, Trilby. And other critics are addressing the issue, among them my colleague Alan Sepinwall at <a href="http://www.sepinwall.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.sepinwall.blogspot.com</a>. Maureen Ryan has also written a lot about what&#039;s happened to &#034;Rescue Me,&#034; at featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com (no www in front of that address), including the transcript of a conversation between reporters and a top FX executive at: </p>
<p><a href="http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2006/07/rescue_me_and_t.html#more" rel="nofollow">http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2006/07/rescue_me_and_t.html#more</a></p>
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		<title>By: Trilby</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/heldenfiles/2006/07/19/rescue-me/#comment-411</link>
		<dc:creator>Trilby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have rape fantasies myself, a lot of women do, but that does not mean I want to be raped in reality, unless it is by two very handsome gentlemen....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have rape fantasies myself, a lot of women do, but that does not mean I want to be raped in reality, unless it is by two very handsome gentlemen&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/heldenfiles/2006/07/19/rescue-me/#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 15:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rape is a topic that can reveal a lot about gender power dynamics, even when a show, novel or film presents it in unsavory ways. I must say I haven't seen this show yet but will watch to find out what's going on. 



This ongoing discussion reminds me of the Dustin Hoffman film, "Straw Dogs." The wife was raped and seemed to enjoy it, at least at the beginning. Then she seemed to blame her husband, who wasn't aware the rape occurred.



I never completely figured out where the film was going with the rape scene, but suspect it was much more about gender roles and marriage than actual rape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rape is a topic that can reveal a lot about gender power dynamics, even when a show, novel or film presents it in unsavory ways. I must say I haven&#039;t seen this show yet but will watch to find out what&#039;s going on. </p>
<p>This ongoing discussion reminds me of the Dustin Hoffman film, &#034;Straw Dogs.&#034; The wife was raped and seemed to enjoy it, at least at the beginning. Then she seemed to blame her husband, who wasn&#039;t aware the rape occurred.</p>
<p>I never completely figured out where the film was going with the rape scene, but suspect it was much more about gender roles and marriage than actual rape.</p>
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		<title>By: Trilby</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/heldenfiles/2006/07/19/rescue-me/#comment-409</link>
		<dc:creator>Trilby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But what about the fact that, unless I imagined it, TOMMY himself was raped by means of a roofie and a viagra being mashed up in his drink. I think they jumped the shark with that bit of business. COuld someone please address this? I feel so alone...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what about the fact that, unless I imagined it, TOMMY himself was raped by means of a roofie and a viagra being mashed up in his drink. I think they jumped the shark with that bit of business. COuld someone please address this? I feel so alone&#8230;</p>
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