the difference between republicans and libertarians……that would be a good question for Ron Paul

as far as ped0phile protector republican John Boehner……hey, he's the face of the republican/libertarian/conservative party. The people who follow such a dispicable creep like Boehner are the true lemmings

" The Reverend dude comes off as a total liberal lemming, .."

What is a total liberal lemming? This Reverend dude doesn't want to take away your guns….is that being, like, a total liberal lemming? Is wanting the government to stay out of our personal lives a liberal lemming position?….cause I agree with that too. How about wanting to kill Bin Laden….is that what liberal lemmings want to do?

I don't lemming-up to anyone. I've written several posts criticizing Obama…and there will be many more, from the looks of it. The left actually criticizes their own Democratic presidents….glaringly unlike the conservative right.

He has a good start here…

"Those nitwits initially attributed Hasan's mass murders to post-traumatic stress disorder. Pretty hard to have PTSD when you haven't been in combat. Maybe the Lames are inventing a new disorder, PRE-traumatic stress. The Lames are also attempting to spin the story away from terrorism, in spite of the known facts pointing directly to terrorism, complete with 'alahu akhbars'."

The "known facts pointing directly to terrorism." Like I said, objective.

joe, I might put something together about Ft. Hood, but I want to wait for the facts to come out first. That takes awhile with our Lame Stream Media. Those nitwits initially attributed Hasan's mass murders to post-traumatic stress disorder. Pretty hard to have PTSD when you haven't been in combat. Maybe the Lames are inventing a new disorder, PRE-traumatic stress. The Lames are also attempting to spin the story away from terrorism, in spite of the known facts pointing directly to terrorism, complete with 'alahu akhbars'.

As for the length of the bill, I haven't seen anyone (including King here) criticize it just for being long, the criticism is that it's going to be passed before it is completely read by the people who are voting on it. If you have a 1,900 page bill that's going to cost a lot of money and affect a lot of people, please take the time to read and understand it completely before voting.

To King's post: Conservatives often criticize the length of the bill, 1900+ pages,….and then they go on to criticize the representatives who haven't read the bill….apparently because, the bill is too long.

I don't get that criticism. We're dealing with $1 trillion here, $100 billion per year for 10 years. Think we should write the bill on a cocktail napkin? If you haven't noticed, the U.S. is the richest, most complex and powerful society man has ever known…..the only logical question to the fact that the $1 trillion congressional bill is some 1900 pages, is……is that all the longer it is?

To the Obama criticism. This guy is the most actively engaged president since Clinton….and Obama is a better organizer and speaker. Obama is the smartest president in a long while, and despite what all King says in his post….Obama already is responsible for changing, even if ever so slightly, the country for the better. Give him 3 more years and a re-election and he'll help to transform America into a respectable place again. Change comes slowly, democratic change.

I am thinking that Nancy set the date for her vote and has over 24 hours left to move it to a new date. I think the elections Tuesday and the success of Representatives Bachmann and King yesterday may force her to do some retwisting of arms, especially all those Blue Dogs.

I wonder if Obama could possibly manage to have to accept defeat on this part of his determined increase of our indebtedness. I am thinking he and Rahm may have to go into seclusion for a time to recover.

You mentioned what this bill will do to Medicare and I can't see anything other than doing away with the purported fraud in the program being necessary. THEY want to take away up to $50 billion each year, even for the 4 years that no money is spent. What would those Dems do with that $200 billion taken before anyone realizes anything from the bill/law? They couldn't stand to have it just lie there so they would have to spend it for something else and then apologize later. The CEO of AARP may have approved this abortion but the thousands of members who have failed to renew don't. I feel very free although membership dues aren't enough to hurt anybody. He will no longer spend any of my money advertising his insurance programs.

King I hope you will address the terrorist attack at Fort Hood in the coming days. This isn't the only muslim extremist attack or conspiracy that has taken plae from within our military.

I wouldn't be against a tax increase on the super rich (earners above, say, $2 million annually, excluding small businesses) considering the circumstances, but the Reverend is missing the boat. In 10 short years, the size of the federal government has DOUBLED, and the Reverend thinks this is a revenue problem ? Typical upside-down liberal thinking. It's a spending problem. We can't just keep increasing taxes over and over to fund the ever-growing appetite of government bureaucrats. We just can't. THAT will be the avenue to depression-like conditions.

If this is the quality of the average voter (clueless, lemming, and sensationalist) out there, no wonder the quality of those we elect is so poor.

"In the run-up to Tuesday’s special election in New York’s 23rd congressional district, Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman met with the editorial board of the Watertown Daily Times, the largest paper in the district. After Hoffman “showed no grasp of the bread-and-butter issues pertinent to district residents,” his companion in the meeting, former House Majority Leader Dick Armey, rose to his defense by dismissing regional concerns as “parochial” issues that would not determine the outcome of the election."

then teabag leader Armey sez out of the other side of his face………“The fact of the matter is, he didn’t pay enough attention to the local concerns, and they were able to tag him as being unaware of the local needs and concerns,” Armey said.

the republicans are back…..just like ped0phile protector John Boehner threw Dennis Hastert under the bus here is his fellow traveler Dick Armey throwing Hoffman under the bus

SS/DD

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/11/05/armey-hoffman-bus/

The reason the income and wealth gap is so large now, huge amounts of wealth shifting into the hands of just a few, …..is because of the continuous breaks given to the most affluent over a 50 year span.

Yes, government always needs trimming…..but taxes on the richest need raising. We need revenue.

You and I both know that the problem with California is not "rich" people getting richer. High taxation, excessive regulation, and anti-industry sentiments is causing the revenue base to migrate elsewhere. Very soon they'll be left with a state that only has government jobs to offer, yet no more means to subsidize this sham. Then the working class gets taxed even heavier to make up the shortfall, instead of slashing the hell out of excess government. California is destined to become a welfare state, from head to toe, unless someone stumbles upon common-sense. If someone is already paying 40-50% of their income, is this not enough? Or do we just adjust the tax rates to balance the shortfalls attributed to out of control spending? Why are taxes always the answer and not restraint?

Since half of the population isn't paying anything in taxes, why not ask them to be "patriotic" as well and step up to plate? I would guess that a lot of people who pay little or no tax aren't fully declaring all income (working in the cash economy) and gaming the system to their best advantage. It's the American way. I know a few people doing this and it is extremely unfair.

IMO, a flat tax or national sales tax is the only way to keep things fair for all. The rich would still pay more, as they consume higher value products. I think something like this would immediately heal the economy, instead of more punitive taxes on success.