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Expectations

by Da King on September 7, 2010

in Democrats,Uncategorized,White House administration

With the latest Washington Post/ABC poll of likely voters showing the GOP leading by 13 points on the generic Congressional ballot, expect a veritable blizzard of bullspit to come from Obama, the Democrats, and the mainstream media over the next two months leading up to the election.

It should be interesting. It will also be mostly…insane. Here's some sample insanity:

Expect to hear that Obama's trillion+ deficits are really nothing to worry about, and at the same time, expect to hear that Bush's much smaller deficits were a horrible abdication of fiscal responsibility.

Expect to hear that Obama's gigantic increases in unfunded federal spending are a good thing, while Bush's smaller increases in unfunded federal spending were a horrible abdication of fiscal responsibility.

Expect to hear Obama blame everything on the Republicans, even though the Democrats have controllled Congress for nearly four years, and a Democrat has been President for nearly two years.

Expect to hear how Obama has created millions of jobs, even though we actually lost millions of jobs since Obama became President.

Expect to hear how the country is "heading in the right direction," as Obama has repeatedly claimed, even though economic growth has dropped markedly over the last two quarters and so-called Recovery Summer has been three straight months of job losses.

Expect to hear how Obama's stimulus package was a great success, even as Obama promotes more stimulus to kickstart the success..that..already…allegedly…happened.

Expect Obama to rail against the Bush tax cuts, even as he extends them and proposes his own tax cuts.

Expect Obama to take credit for ending the Iraq war, even though he opposed the surge that led to it's ending, and even as he ignores the fact that Bush was the one who setup the Iraq exit strategy.

Expect Obama to blame the financial crisis solely on the Republicans, even though most of the policy changes that led to it happened under Democratic administrations (mainly Clinton), and even though Democrats obstructed any attempts to reign in the irresponsible mortgage easy-lending and securitization policies (Fannie Mae) that Democrats favored for decades.

Expect liberals to continue to call anyone who disagrees with their policies a bigot.

Expect to see Democrats in Congress who voted for every last bit of Obama's Spend-A-Palooza suddenly transform into deeply concerned fiscal hawks.

Expect Democrats to run away from the unpopular ObamaCare bill they voted for and trumpeted as a great triumph.

Expect Keith Olbermann and company to be batsh*t-crazier than ever (if that's possible).

Expect radical leftists to call Republicans radical.

Expect more and more and more and more spending proposals from Obama, while at the same time he lauds his creation of a deficit commission.

Expect Obama to continue promoting the interests of illegals over American citizens.

Expect to hear Democrats try to get you to believe that Republicans are going to take away your Social Security and Medicare, even as Obama prepares to cut the hell out of Medicare.

And finally, expect the unexpected. That usually happens in october.

  • walter

    what Americans should really expect is the republican tea party propagandists like Dave to shift into high gear and scare the bejesus out of us with bullshit about $34,000,000 WINDOW makeovers

    just sayin'

  • Andrea

    All I am hearing is republicans solution to the mess is to keep the Bush tax cuts – which are still in effect and haven't done much for our economy and jobs except to fund some rich folks second homes overseas and their over seas investments. The economy is still bleak but the only people who are NOT qualified to criticize Obama handling of it is the Republicans. Because they have proved that they are the most economically incompetent in the last years . No ideas no solutions and they dont know how to balance a check book – tax cuts when you go into 2 wars – insane

  • sunklhammer

    King, isn't it hilarious how quickly the two main resident commies jump in to attack the Bush economy, which had a lower rate of unemployment and a deficit that was 25% smaller than the one their alinskyite leader has given us?

  • sunklhammer

    Uhhhh….make that 75% smaller.

  • B

    I'm glad to hear that you recognize that a year and a half into the Obama administration, and after a massive "stimulus" program, things are a mess.

  • Tory Bug

    Keeping in mind, dear, that Obama's so-called 'stimulus' spending managed, in 2 years, to out pace 8 years of war spending. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/08/30/cbo-years-iraq-war-cost-stimulus-act/ Admittedly, the war's contributions to the deficit seemed significant back before Barry took office, but his zealous overspending has totally dwarfed that amount. It's no longer the major factor in our deficit equation that it used to be.

  • Tory Bug

    I was gonna say…!

  • B

    And let's not forget the new proposal to spend $50 billion of we don't have in yet another attempt to articfially create jobs paid for by the government.

    And then there was "Recovery Summer." And unemployment is now up to 9.6%.

    Yes, Andrea, you hit the nail on the head. The economy is a mess.

  • Tbomb
  • sunklhammer

    You don't have a mind that can be reminded of anything worth thinking about, stinky.

  • Andrea

    Tory Bug Fox has a way of reporting things to side with their political views – republican under Rudolf Murdock .
    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/aug/25/mark-tapscott/did-stimulus-cost-more-war-iraq/
    So while the stimulus bill has cost quite a bit we also got JOBS from it and new roads bridges and helped save some companies from going under like the auto companies and they included bank bailouts in that number etc –
    what did we get out of the 2 wars ?
    Also the way they figured this out wasn't truly honest reporting .
    "Citing data from conservative writer Randall Hoven, Tapscott said, "Obama’s stimulus, passed in his first month in office, will cost more than the entire Iraq War — more than $100 billion more."

    Really? Could the nearly seven-year-long war cost less than the 2009 stimulus, which was designed to keep the U.S. economy from sliding into a depression?

    At first glance, the numbers look pretty close. The most recent figures from the Congressional Budget Office, released in August 2010, put the total cost for the stimulus — from February 2009 through 2019 — at $814 billion. Estimated funding for the war in Iraq totals $709 billion from 2003 to 2010, according to the same CBO report.

    But note the different time periods. The stimulus costs are projected through 2019. But the war spending is calculated only to the end of this year.

    We also should note that the $814 billion cost for the stimulus includes $70 billion to fix a problem with the Alternative Minimum Tax, which is designed to target the wealthiest taxpayers but is gradually affecting more people in the middle class."

    As for the war cost, we found a variety of opinions on the total. Some reports have higher estimates than the CBO’s for that same time period.

  • larry d.

    Politifact has a way of reporting things to side with their political views, Andrea. They only put "fact" in their name to fool the lemmings.

  • barackem

    I would love for the GOP to remain out of power for at least a few more election cycles. We gave them a good spanking but they really haven't had enough time sitting in their room for the punishment to really sink in. The problem is that the people who replaced them are melting this great nation down at warp speed.

    Our biggest problem isn't government that isn't solving our problems. It is government believing they are the ones who solve our problems. If we want to get America back to work we should leave it in the hands of those who literally make America work. Our current meltdown is what happens when politicians who have never run a pop stand decide they can do it better than the tens of millions of experts in their own fields. Those are the people who will figure out how to get customers in the door without costing tax payers a penny and will do the hiring that will get us back to full employment.

    The most that I am hoping for from the GOP is responsible spending on only necessary items at the government level. A repeal of most of the thousands of pages of regulations that the Dems instituted without reading. The repeal of the multi-thousand page health care bill that they voted for without reading. A government that goes back to the court system to adjudicate financial rules and a system that doesn't rewrite the rules as we go. A government that quits running private enterprise and only gets involved in private/public partnerships in their appropriate role dealing with infrastructure and other legitimate government responsibilities. A government that stops the back room dealing and corrupt paybacks, whether financial or political. A government that calls business in and tries to accomodate their needs rather than one that demonizes and bullies them. A government that begins to roll back some of the laws that hold up development for years or even decades with frivolous lawsuits and other predatory uses of the legal system to shake down legitimate business or others who's biggest crime is having money and therefore a target. A government that doesn't ignore reasonable regulations that are already on the books that would have kept the housing bubble from ever happening and would have bankrupted the insiders who received multi-billion dollar bailouts with taxpayer money so that other responsible, honest bankers and businesses would have instead risen to rightful prominence in their industries.

    I don't think the big issue will be stimulus for business. It isn't even about tax cuts. It is about a solid foundation so that an investor knows that they won't have their contracts rewritten or have their business taken over or have new rules that keep them in the office all day rather than out in the field actually doing their job. Business owners are just people. Make it too hard or complicated, add the badmouthing, the additional costs of doing business, the added risks, the added uncertainty, the greater taxation, the greater reporting requirements and the additional thousands of tax agents to scrutinize returns, etc. etc. etc.

    We're also pretty sick of the race and class warfare.

    Probably what we want most are people who recognize the greatness of America and don't feel a need to fundamentally change it. Just put government back on a stable, responsible course and we will do the rest like we always have done.

  • larry d.

    If we can get two good years out of an obstructionist Republican congress we'll be lucky and I'll be happy. Get a new president in there, then let Tea Party and minority activists chisel away at the status quo party system. I think Obama's disastrous reign has opened a lot of conservative eyes already, while his utter failure will open some eyes among groups who have been blindly voting Democrat these last 40 years.

  • Andrea

    Larry d. do you dispute what they are saying? If so – give why

  • Da King

    The PolitiFact piece didn't disprove the fact that Obama's stimulus package cost more than the Iraq War to date, so there's really nothing to dispute. The Iraq War, according to the CBO, cost a little over $700 billion, and the stimulus package cost over $800 billion. Them's the facts. All that stuff from PolitiLeft, er, PolitiFact, about time periods, cost projections, and various opinions on cost estimates was included only to muddy the picture. The Fox News story was accurate.

  • Da King

    It's beyond hilarious, sunkl. They complain about the bad things Bush did to the economy when Obama is doing all the same bad things ten times worse. Like I said in my post, it's insane. But I guess it's all they got.

  • Da King

    Thanks, Tbomb. That article was very uninteresting. I never heard of this Kessler guy.

  • Da King

    Mental breakdown.

  • Da King

    That's all I'm looking for from a Republican-led House – stop the Obama agenda until 2012, and then see if we can get him out of there and repeal his insane policies. I wish there was a better option than the Republican party, but alas, there isn't. Hopefully, the Tea Parties can improve it, and improve the Democrats as well.

  • The Reverend

    Not the Bush overspending Tory…..the Bush tax cuts. The Bush tax cuts are the "major factor" in our "deficit equation."

    But Tory doesn't do facts. Facts are soooo boring.

  • The Reverend

    larry sounds like Barry Goldwater…..a drunk Barry Goldwater.

  • The Reverend

    Aren't you forgetting the cost of some 4400 dead U.S. soldiers?

    Far as I know, Obama's stimulus isn't responsible for the deaths of 4400 U.S. soldiers and hundreds of thousands of Iraq civilians.

    Would those deaths not be considered a "cost?"

  • Tom B

    The bottom line is that the GOP base is shrinking. They depend on independents to be elected. This could be said to a lesser degree about the Dems too. Look at the demographics of this changing nation. The Hispanic population is growing fast. The GOP does everything they can to alienate these folks. Will they vote GOP? That would be a hard sell. Now look at age. Those under 30 are a very progressive group that lean heavily Dem. The GOP base is largely 50+. We know what will happen to them in the next 10-20 years as the under 30 sieze control. Given the other minorities that the GOP works hard to disenfranchise and you have an ever dwindling GOP base. I think what we will see this cycle is GOP candidates masking social conservatism to get votes. The Dems need to play up what the GOP candidate stands for across the board. My observation is that people want fiscal conservatism at this time. The majority of Americans do not support social conservatism. Let's make sure voters know the total candidate before they vote.

  • walter

    http://www.costofwar.com/

    rev…….if Fox had included Afganistan then it wouldn't have been proper republican tea party propaganda

    just sayin'

  • Da King

    Tom,
    The old saying is – if you aren't a Democrat when you're twenty, you have no heart. If you aren't a Republican by the time you're forty, you have no brain.

    Those youngsters grow up.

    But I'm not really a social conservative either. It's all about the fiscal side for me. I believe people should be free to live as they like, as long as they aren't harming others. Neither major political party really goes along with the idea.

  • walter

    speaking of expectations…."Take Your Handgun to Work"

    "The bill would force an employer to let an employee with a concealed-handgun permit store his or her handgun in a locked personal motor vehicle parked on the employer's property. The prime sponsor of this startling anti-business, anti-safety mandate is a suburban Cincinnati Republican, Rep. Joseph Uecker.

    Ohio employers can already do what this bill would force all of them to do. Antics such as these are why Columbus politicking nauseates more and more voters, and why employers — job creators in an Ohio desperate for jobs — must sometimes wonder whose side state lawmakers really are on. "

    SS/DD from the republican tea party

  • walter
  • Da King

    What wally conveniently left out, from his link:

    "Among the bill's co-sponsors are Reps. Stephen Dyer of suburban Akron and Matt Patten of Strongsville, both Democrats".

    Not to mention that those with concealed-carry permits actually WOULDN'T be able to take their guns to work if this law passed. They'd have to leave them locked in the car.

    If only we didn't have that stupid Constitution thingy….

  • walter

    like I said…expect the republican tea party to pull some wacky stunts……."The prime sponsor of this startling anti-business, anti-safety mandate is a suburban Cincinnati Republican, Rep. Joseph Uecker."

    so let me get this straight….when I park in the employee parking lot I'm NOT at work?

    I would think that some employers(you know like the postal service) wouldn't want their employees to have access to guns while at work

  • Da King

    No need to repeat yourself. I heard you the first time.

    You're not at work until you're IN the building, wally. They don't start paying you when you reach the parking lot.

    I'm also fairly certian that a disgruntled postal worker who wanted to shoot up the post office wouldn't say to himself, "oh, I WOULD kill all my fellow employees, but I can't bring a gun to the parking lot, darnit, so nevermind." If he's willing to commit mass murder, a concealed-carry rule won't stop him.

  • walter

    I would think most reasonable people would consider a person "at work" when that person is on the employer's property

    this is the last paragraph of the op-ed piece……"Ohio employers can already do what this bill would force all of them to do. Antics such as these are why Columbus politicking nauseates more and more voters, and why employers — job creators in an Ohio desperate for jobs — must sometimes wonder whose side state lawmakers really are on."

    let the employers decide…..good idea

  • Da King

    I basically support the notion of letting private businesses decide what they'll allow or not allow without government interference, so I see your point. But if a gun is locked outside in the trunk of someone's car while they're at work, I don't see a big problem with that either. It sounds like a compromise that protects everyone's rights.

  • walter

    that sounds like your typical republican tea party mentality……..it's a good thing that businesses can decide for themselves but, to help them make the right decision we'll just tack on another regulation

    does that sound about right?

  • Da King

    It actually sounds more like the typical liberal mentality to intrude on businesses, but in this case, there are Second Amendment rights, and there are private property rights, coming into conflict. I can live with the compromise position. Keep the guns out of the workplace, while still upholding the Constitution. What's the problem ?

  • The Reverend

    What if someone threatens me in my work environment? Shouldn't I be able to exercise my right to shoot that person who is threatening me at my job? I mean, what are rights good for if I can't exercise them?

    Private property rights trump the 2nd amendment? Where's that written?

  • walter

    it just might be the typical liberal mentality to intrude on businesses but in this case it's the republican tea party doing the intruding…and the sole reason is to get votes from ignorant tea partiers

    if you want to bring a gun to work and the company says no……….go find a new job

    that's an easy enough compromise…..no tea party needed

  • Da King

    How'd you get the Tea Party into this ? From what I read, the legislation is sponsored by three Republicans and two Democrats.

  • walter

    let's review……."The prime sponsor of this startling anti-business, anti-safety mandate is a suburban Cincinnati Republican, Rep. Joseph Uecker."

    so here we have a republican pandering to the gun lobby….that's got tea party written all over it

  • Da King

    When you say, "let's review," and then repeat yourself for the third time, I know you're going to start being dishonest. You know you're being dishonest, which I've already pointed out, but your mental condition prevents you from admitting it. Too bad. I'm done.

  • walter

    let's give this some thought…..a Cincinnati Republican, Rep. Joseph Uecker, is the prime sponsor of this anti-business, anti-safety mandate

    you spoke in defense of this nonsense and you are a tea party republican

    only makes sense that this republican goof is pandering to tea party republicans

    how is that being dishonest?

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