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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 21:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok let me see if i got this 1 right obama is raising taxes and making it mandtory that everyone and i meen everyone pays for health care or you get fined by the same arces we put in office but while our rights get stompped into the ground  we still have to obyde by the letter of there rules while the rich still get richer and the man that makes a meger living by working 2 jobs  that are min. wage and cant pay bills or cant eat  it&quot;s your choice which 1 u do  they still want this MAN YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME this makes absoulty no sence to me what so ever and i dont c how taxing the he l outta everything is going to help the ones that need it but the ones that got it dont get hurt just the lil guy does if we want to make things right  cut the monies that congress state reps. and yes even oboma makes and give it back to the people think about this when a U.S. senator retires form office he still makes roughly 87,ooo$ a year aqnd has the secret service at his beckon call to baby sit him or his family anytime it is needed my opion were going to get to the point to where the sick can only die cause they dont have ins. now thats just WRONG but maybe i&#039;m wrong if so please inlighten me as to how to feel about all this B S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok let me see if i got this 1 right obama is raising taxes and making it mandtory that everyone and i meen everyone pays for health care or you get fined by the same arces we put in office but while our rights get stompped into the ground  we still have to obyde by the letter of there rules while the rich still get richer and the man that makes a meger living by working 2 jobs  that are min. wage and cant pay bills or cant eat  it&#034;s your choice which 1 u do  they still want this MAN YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME this makes absoulty no sence to me what so ever and i dont c how taxing the he l outta everything is going to help the ones that need it but the ones that got it dont get hurt just the lil guy does if we want to make things right  cut the monies that congress state reps. and yes even oboma makes and give it back to the people think about this when a U.S. senator retires form office he still makes roughly 87,ooo$ a year aqnd has the secret service at his beckon call to baby sit him or his family anytime it is needed my opion were going to get to the point to where the sick can only die cause they dont have ins. now thats just WRONG but maybe i&#039;m wrong if so please inlighten me as to how to feel about all this B S</p>
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		<title>By: Da King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Da King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The more the libs call a conservative names, the more afraid of that conservative they are.  The libs call Bachman lots of names.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more the libs call a conservative names, the more afraid of that conservative they are.  The libs call Bachman lots of names.</p>
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		<title>By: roysoldboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>roysoldboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of libs, aren&#039;t they just progressives?  And while we are there haven&#039;t progressives been socialists from the very beginning?  Somehow I just can&#039;t understand how they function without eventually admitting that they are socialists.  

Speaking of Bachman, I wonder just how afraid of her the lib bunch is.  She makes so much sense to me and they just keep swinging away at her as if she were the enemy of the nation.  I think most of them would rather follow Debbie Wasserman-Schultz than Bachman and WS makes me literally  scream every time she comes on TV to make her left handed comments about anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of libs, aren&#039;t they just progressives?  And while we are there haven&#039;t progressives been socialists from the very beginning?  Somehow I just can&#039;t understand how they function without eventually admitting that they are socialists.  </p>
<p>Speaking of Bachman, I wonder just how afraid of her the lib bunch is.  She makes so much sense to me and they just keep swinging away at her as if she were the enemy of the nation.  I think most of them would rather follow Debbie Wasserman-Schultz than Bachman and WS makes me literally  scream every time she comes on TV to make her left handed comments about anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Da King</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/da_kings_men/2009/11/02/a-taxing-health-care-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-10527</link>
		<dc:creator>Da King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy, 
Getting over half the population to not pay for ObamaCare is the whole idea behind the shell game. Once the libs get the majority of Americans dependent on the government for their survival, the game is over. The libs win, and socialism reigns. Maybe the socialists will even come out of the closet at that point. I think it was Bachman who said this is the Super Bowl for freedom. She is right. This is a crossroads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy,<br />
Getting over half the population to not pay for ObamaCare is the whole idea behind the shell game. Once the libs get the majority of Americans dependent on the government for their survival, the game is over. The libs win, and socialism reigns. Maybe the socialists will even come out of the closet at that point. I think it was Bachman who said this is the Super Bowl for freedom. She is right. This is a crossroads.</p>
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		<title>By: walter</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/da_kings_men/2009/11/02/a-taxing-health-care-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-10525</link>
		<dc:creator>walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:13:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not reverend.......what, you don&#039;t think  military spending is just another way of stimulating the economy?

some say the real defense spending is around $1,000,000,000,000 a year. I would have no problem with reducing that amount.

Interesting comment about Bush and mission accomplished.......what a stupid thing that was</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not reverend&#8230;&#8230;.what, you don&#039;t think  military spending is just another way of stimulating the economy?</p>
<p>some say the real defense spending is around $1,000,000,000,000 a year. I would have no problem with reducing that amount.</p>
<p>Interesting comment about Bush and mission accomplished&#8230;&#8230;.what a stupid thing that was</p>
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		<title>By: The Irreverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Irreverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Wally, are you advocating the abolition of the Department of Defense? What exactly are you trying to contribute here? If you just want to appear stupid, in the words of George Bush, &quot;Mission Accomplished&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Wally, are you advocating the abolition of the Department of Defense? What exactly are you trying to contribute here? If you just want to appear stupid, in the words of George Bush, &#034;Mission Accomplished&#034;.</p>
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		<title>By: walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this from CounterPunch

Wild Tales From the Reactionary Right 
Conspiracy, Inc. 
By ANTHONY DiMAGGIO 


Obama the Socialist

Probably the most popular conspiracy theory is the claim that Obama is a closet socialist.  This claim is clearly the most insulting and absurd charge against a president who has led the charge to rescue American capitalism from itself.  Obama has promised to rejuvenate American banks, investment firms, and housing industry from their own destructive investments and speculation.  Obama has granted hundreds of billions in bailout money and promised another $1 trillion for investment firms and banks to wipe out their toxic investment derivative assets.  None of this is enough for conservatives, who cling to Obama’s half-hearted support for a “public option” in health care as evidence of his secret socialism.

For the record, the public option has nothing to do with socialism, considering that it is merely covering those individuals who have fallen through the massive cracks of the private health insurance industry.  The public option is about as socialist as any other non-profit public service, including public education, public roads, police forces, fire fighters, and public libraries.  All of these public services co-exist with private education, roads, security, etc. without threatening the foundation of capitalism.  Then again, these “socialist” services have long been a target of conservatives who would prefer to deny the poor access to such services in the name of the “right” to private profit.  It will not be surprising then, when we hear more about the devious “socialist” threats to children’s minds from public libraries, as well as attacks on the “tyranny” of organizations providing public education to the disadvantaged.&quot;

http://www.counterpunch.org/dimaggio10302009.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this from CounterPunch</p>
<p>Wild Tales From the Reactionary Right<br />
Conspiracy, Inc.<br />
By ANTHONY DiMAGGIO </p>
<p>Obama the Socialist</p>
<p>Probably the most popular conspiracy theory is the claim that Obama is a closet socialist.  This claim is clearly the most insulting and absurd charge against a president who has led the charge to rescue American capitalism from itself.  Obama has promised to rejuvenate American banks, investment firms, and housing industry from their own destructive investments and speculation.  Obama has granted hundreds of billions in bailout money and promised another $1 trillion for investment firms and banks to wipe out their toxic investment derivative assets.  None of this is enough for conservatives, who cling to Obama’s half-hearted support for a “public option” in health care as evidence of his secret socialism.</p>
<p>For the record, the public option has nothing to do with socialism, considering that it is merely covering those individuals who have fallen through the massive cracks of the private health insurance industry.  The public option is about as socialist as any other non-profit public service, including public education, public roads, police forces, fire fighters, and public libraries.  All of these public services co-exist with private education, roads, security, etc. without threatening the foundation of capitalism.  Then again, these “socialist” services have long been a target of conservatives who would prefer to deny the poor access to such services in the name of the “right” to private profit.  It will not be surprising then, when we hear more about the devious “socialist” threats to children’s minds from public libraries, as well as attacks on the “tyranny” of organizations providing public education to the disadvantaged.&#034;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.counterpunch.org/dimaggio10302009.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.counterpunch.org/dimaggio10302009.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alexander D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy, 
Why is it so hard for socialists, marxists, commies, etc. to come clean and firmly stand behind their beliefs in the open?? Might it be this stuff doesn&#039;t fly too well with mainstream Americans, unless &quot;sugar-coated&quot; to dupe one&#039;s palette?

I like being referred to as a wingnut, right-wing extremist, angry mobster, and whatever else our state-run media conjures up. These terms of endearment reassure me that I&#039;m on the right track. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy,<br />
Why is it so hard for socialists, marxists, commies, etc. to come clean and firmly stand behind their beliefs in the open?? Might it be this stuff doesn&#039;t fly too well with mainstream Americans, unless &#034;sugar-coated&#034; to dupe one&#039;s palette?</p>
<p>I like being referred to as a wingnut, right-wing extremist, angry mobster, and whatever else our state-run media conjures up. These terms of endearment reassure me that I&#039;m on the right track. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: roysoldboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>roysoldboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev and Walter just identified themselves as downright socialists with their last two posts.  Hard to believe that they will now deny saying what they said as being calls for absolute socialism, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev and Walter just identified themselves as downright socialists with their last two posts.  Hard to believe that they will now deny saying what they said as being calls for absolute socialism, though.</p>
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		<title>By: walter</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/da_kings_men/2009/11/02/a-taxing-health-care-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-10520</link>
		<dc:creator>walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 15:07:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>King sez.....&quot;Hey, I know. We can just keep passing $800 billion stimulus packages every single year, basically forever. That will &quot;create or save&quot; lots of jobs. Then everything will be just fine.&quot;

we do that already.....it&#039;s called the Department of Defense. Some people say a more realistic figure is $1,000,000,000,000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>King sez&#8230;..&#034;Hey, I know. We can just keep passing $800 billion stimulus packages every single year, basically forever. That will &#034;create or save&#034; lots of jobs. Then everything will be just fine.&#034;</p>
<p>we do that already&#8230;..it&#039;s called the Department of Defense. Some people say a more realistic figure is $1,000,000,000,000.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should have pulled the trigger a while back, instead of searching for &quot;bipartisan&quot; cover and 60 votes to cutoff debate. This was never about reforming costs, or even insuring the uninsured......................it was about an opportunity to expand government control, increase the ranks of those dependent upon the government, and a chance to become elitists.  Lowering taxes, stimulating the economy, and increasing jobs would have somehow &quot;lessened&quot; the emergency for ObamaCare...........and even cap and trade which are being fast-tracked. Depending on the way tonight goes, blue dogs may want to reconsider their sacrificial lamb roles for Queen Pelosi. 

Wasn&#039;t this supposed to be a fix for 10% of the population? How did the other 90% get jacked up into this mess? I&#039;ll quote those who are responsible.................&quot;Chaos brings opportunity&quot;. 

With the exception of a handful of politicians, caught up in a sea of corruption, an anti-incumbent mindset needs to take hold of America. In the meantime, we must fight these radical changes tooth and nail................and become the &quot;angry mobs&quot; we&#039;ve been labeled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should have pulled the trigger a while back, instead of searching for &#034;bipartisan&#034; cover and 60 votes to cutoff debate. This was never about reforming costs, or even insuring the uninsured&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.it was about an opportunity to expand government control, increase the ranks of those dependent upon the government, and a chance to become elitists.  Lowering taxes, stimulating the economy, and increasing jobs would have somehow &#034;lessened&#034; the emergency for ObamaCare&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..and even cap and trade which are being fast-tracked. Depending on the way tonight goes, blue dogs may want to reconsider their sacrificial lamb roles for Queen Pelosi. </p>
<p>Wasn&#039;t this supposed to be a fix for 10% of the population? How did the other 90% get jacked up into this mess? I&#039;ll quote those who are responsible&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..&#034;Chaos brings opportunity&#034;. </p>
<p>With the exception of a handful of politicians, caught up in a sea of corruption, an anti-incumbent mindset needs to take hold of America. In the meantime, we must fight these radical changes tooth and nail&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.and become the &#034;angry mobs&#034; we&#039;ve been labeled.</p>
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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/da_kings_men/2009/11/02/a-taxing-health-care-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-10518</link>
		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What frank said.......single payer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What frank said&#8230;&#8230;.single payer.</p>
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		<title>By: angry conserv</title>
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		<dc:creator>angry conserv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.The medicare program is rapidly heading towards unreversible bankruptcy that can only be saved by implementing huge tax increases or asking the people to accept drastic reductions in coverage.    So the solution is to expand the problem?
2. For those of you that actually believe Obama&#039;s pledge that he will only increase tax on the rich I refer to  Hillary&#039;s statement when she was insulting the Pakistanis &quot;We tax (the US) everything that moves and doesnt move&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1.The medicare program is rapidly heading towards unreversible bankruptcy that can only be saved by implementing huge tax increases or asking the people to accept drastic reductions in coverage.    So the solution is to expand the problem?<br />
2. For those of you that actually believe Obama&#039;s pledge that he will only increase tax on the rich I refer to  Hillary&#039;s statement when she was insulting the Pakistanis &#034;We tax (the US) everything that moves and doesnt move&#034;</p>
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		<title>By: frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. King,
Some of us predicted that anything passed would be a clusterf**k that would do more to protect the insurance companies than help people.  The reason--campaign contributions.  The simplest, least costly, and most effective reform would be HR676, an expansion of the Medicare program.  But neither wing of the Money Party cares enough about the will of the people to jeopardize their funding.  Follow the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. King,<br />
Some of us predicted that anything passed would be a clusterf**k that would do more to protect the insurance companies than help people.  The reason&#8211;campaign contributions.  The simplest, least costly, and most effective reform would be HR676, an expansion of the Medicare program.  But neither wing of the Money Party cares enough about the will of the people to jeopardize their funding.  Follow the money.</p>
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		<title>By: roysoldboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>roysoldboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Obama sure is a good public speaker, as long as his teleprompter is working.

I wonder how many of the half of the non-income tax payers will pay any of those taxes.  They are the ones all this is for in that they will support anything Obama comes in with as long as they don&#039;t have to pay for it.

I was a bit taken aback when The One promised that there would be no increases on payroll taxes (whithholding taxes for income) or income taxes.  These amount to the same thing for most workers since all their income comes from the job.  That one took in way too many people which puts that 5th grader reference of yours back on them for being taken in by his speech writers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Obama sure is a good public speaker, as long as his teleprompter is working.</p>
<p>I wonder how many of the half of the non-income tax payers will pay any of those taxes.  They are the ones all this is for in that they will support anything Obama comes in with as long as they don&#039;t have to pay for it.</p>
<p>I was a bit taken aback when The One promised that there would be no increases on payroll taxes (whithholding taxes for income) or income taxes.  These amount to the same thing for most workers since all their income comes from the job.  That one took in way too many people which puts that 5th grader reference of yours back on them for being taken in by his speech writers.</p>
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