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A Taxing Health Care Plan

by Da King on November 2, 2009

in Democrats, Uncategorized, White House administration, health care, taxes

There's an old political truism that says you don't raise taxes during a recession. The reason is, raising taxes during a recession tends to make the recession worse. They used to call that – economics.

But that was before the Age Of Obama and Pelosi, where economic rules no longer apply. Obama and Pelosi just love to raise them some taxes, recession or not. It's full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes with those two. The enormous 1990-page House health care bill is no exception. Following are the taxes contained in that bill, courtesy of Americans For Tax Reform:

Employer Mandate Excise Tax (Page 275): If an employer does not pay 72.5 percent of a single employee’s health premium (65 percent of a family employee), the employer must pay an excise tax equal to 8 percent of average wages. Small employers (measured by payroll size) have smaller payroll tax rates of 0 percent (<$500,000), 2 percent ($500,000-$585,000), 4 percent ($585,000-$670,000), and 6 percent ($670,000-$750,000).

Individual Mandate Surtax (Page 296): If an individual fails to obtain qualifying coverage, he must pay an income surtax equal to the lesser of 2.5 percent of modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) or the average premium. MAGI adds back in the foreign earned income exclusion and municipal bond interest.

Medicine Cabinet Tax (Page 324): Non-prescription medications would no longer be able to be purchased from health savings accounts (HSAs), flexible spending accounts (FSAs), or health reimbursement arrangements (HRAs). Insulin excepted.

Cap on FSAs (Page 325): FSAs [Flexible Spending Accounts] would face an annual cap of $2500 (currently uncapped).

Increased Additional Tax on Non-Qualified HSA [Health Savings Accounts] Distributions (Page 326): Non-qualified distributions from HSAs would face an additional tax of 20 percent (current law is 10 percent). This disadvantages HSAs relative to other tax-free accounts (e.g. IRAs, 401(k)s, 529 plans, etc.)

Denial of Tax Deduction for Employer Health Plans Coordinating with Medicare Part D (Page 327): This would further erode private sector participation in delivery of Medicare services.

Surtax on Individuals and Small Businesses (Page 336): Imposes an income surtax of 5.4 percent on MAGI over $500,000 ($1 million married filing jointly). MAGI adds back in the itemized deduction for margin loan interest. This would raise the top marginal tax rate in 2011 from 39.6 percent under current law to 45 percent—a new effective top rate.

Excise Tax on Medical Devices (Page 339): Imposes a new excise tax on medical device manufacturers equal to 2.5 percent of the wholesale price. It excludes retail sales and unspecified medical devices sold to the general public.

Corporate 1099-MISC Information Reporting (Page 344): Requires that 1099-MISC forms be issued to corporations as well as persons for trade or business payments. Current law limits to just persons for small business compliance complexity reasons. Also expands reporting to exchanges of property.

Delay in Worldwide Allocation of Interest (Page 345): Delays for nine years the worldwide allocation of interest, a corporate tax relief provision from the American Jobs Creation Act

Limitation on Tax Treaty Benefits for Certain Payments (Page 346): Increases taxes on U.S. employers with overseas operations looking to avoid double taxation of earnings.

Codification of the “Economic Substance Doctrine” (Page 349): Empowers the IRS to disallow a perfectly legal tax deduction or other tax relief merely because the IRS deems that the motive of the taxpayer was not primarily business-related.

Application of “More Likely Than Not” Rule (Page 357): Publicly-traded partnerships and corporations with annual gross receipts in excess of $100 million have raised standards on penalties. If there is a tax underpayment by these taxpayers, they must be able to prove that the estimated tax paid would have more likely than not been sufficient to cover final tax liability.

That's thirteen new taxes in all, which are supposed to generate $540 billion in new revenue over 10 years to pay for health care reform (though it seems little is actually being reformed with this health care "reform." Mostly, we're just creating a big new welfare program combined with a government mandate for all to purchase health insurance). There is a public option in the House bill, but it is not one which ties reimbursement rates to Medicare rates. It allows for providers to negotiate reimbursement rates. The other interesting thing about ObamaCare is that the health care taxes begin immediately, but the benefits don't kick in for four years or so. That's how ObamaCare "doesn't add one dime to the federal deficit." Ten years of taxes pay for six years of benefits. You aren't supposed to notice that, just as you aren't supposed to notice that ObamaCare cuts over $400 billion from Medicare to pay for itself, something that has never been accomplished before in the history of Medicare. Historically, it's been the Democrats who said Republicans were trying to kill grandma by proposing much smaller Medicare cuts than ObamaCare proposes. Now it's the Democrats proposing the cuts, and the Republicans are the ones saying the Democrats are trying to kill grandma. Things have come full circle. Go figure.

Many of these new taxes will be either implemented against the middle class or passed down to them (non-insurance penalty, tax on medical devices, employer taxes, limits on FSA's and HSA's). This reminds me of something President Obama said on the campaign trail last year:

I can make a firm pledge, under my plan, no family making less than $250,000 a year will see any form of tax increase. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your capital gains taxes, not any of your taxes.

Sure Barry, whatever you say. The One broke that pledge a couple weeks after being inaugurated by raising the tax on cigarettes, and now he wants to break it again with health care reform. Then he wants to break his pledge again with cap and trade, which would be a huge tax increase that filters down to every American household. Various other Democrats want to tax sodas, gasoline, fast foods, heating oil, cigarettes some more, expensive health care plans (Senate health care plan), and anything else they can dream up. Democrats are engaged in the game of 1,001 ways to raise your taxes without you knowing they've raised your taxes.

And all this during what Democrats themselves term as the worst recession since the Great Depression.

Gee, what could possibly go wrong ?

Hey, I know. We can just keep passing $800 billion stimulus packages every single year, basically forever. That will "create or save" lots of jobs. Then everything will be just fine.

Just kidding. That would be a recipe for destruction, as any fifth grader could figure out. The problem is, that seems to BE the actual economic plan of the Democrats, at least until those millions of green jobs kick in sometime in the next couple decades.

That Obama sure is a good public speaker though. There's that.

{ 15 comments… read them below or add one }

roysoldboy November 2, 2009 at 12:36 pm

That Obama sure is a good public speaker, as long as his teleprompter is working.

I wonder how many of the half of the non-income tax payers will pay any of those taxes. They are the ones all this is for in that they will support anything Obama comes in with as long as they don't have to pay for it.

I was a bit taken aback when The One promised that there would be no increases on payroll taxes (whithholding taxes for income) or income taxes. These amount to the same thing for most workers since all their income comes from the job. That one took in way too many people which puts that 5th grader reference of yours back on them for being taken in by his speech writers.

frank November 2, 2009 at 2:42 pm

Mr. King,
Some of us predicted that anything passed would be a clusterf**k that would do more to protect the insurance companies than help people. The reason–campaign contributions. The simplest, least costly, and most effective reform would be HR676, an expansion of the Medicare program. But neither wing of the Money Party cares enough about the will of the people to jeopardize their funding. Follow the money.

angry conserv November 2, 2009 at 4:14 pm

1.The medicare program is rapidly heading towards unreversible bankruptcy that can only be saved by implementing huge tax increases or asking the people to accept drastic reductions in coverage. So the solution is to expand the problem?
2. For those of you that actually believe Obama's pledge that he will only increase tax on the rich I refer to Hillary's statement when she was insulting the Pakistanis "We tax (the US) everything that moves and doesnt move"

The Reverend November 3, 2009 at 8:50 am

What frank said…….single payer.

Alexander D. November 3, 2009 at 9:52 am

They should have pulled the trigger a while back, instead of searching for "bipartisan" cover and 60 votes to cutoff debate. This was never about reforming costs, or even insuring the uninsured………………….it was about an opportunity to expand government control, increase the ranks of those dependent upon the government, and a chance to become elitists. Lowering taxes, stimulating the economy, and increasing jobs would have somehow "lessened" the emergency for ObamaCare………..and even cap and trade which are being fast-tracked. Depending on the way tonight goes, blue dogs may want to reconsider their sacrificial lamb roles for Queen Pelosi.

Wasn't this supposed to be a fix for 10% of the population? How did the other 90% get jacked up into this mess? I'll quote those who are responsible…………….."Chaos brings opportunity".

With the exception of a handful of politicians, caught up in a sea of corruption, an anti-incumbent mindset needs to take hold of America. In the meantime, we must fight these radical changes tooth and nail…………….and become the "angry mobs" we've been labeled.

walter November 3, 2009 at 11:07 am

King sez….."Hey, I know. We can just keep passing $800 billion stimulus packages every single year, basically forever. That will "create or save" lots of jobs. Then everything will be just fine."

we do that already…..it's called the Department of Defense. Some people say a more realistic figure is $1,000,000,000,000.

roysoldboy November 3, 2009 at 11:44 am

Rev and Walter just identified themselves as downright socialists with their last two posts. Hard to believe that they will now deny saying what they said as being calls for absolute socialism, though.

Alexander D. November 3, 2009 at 11:54 am

Roy,
Why is it so hard for socialists, marxists, commies, etc. to come clean and firmly stand behind their beliefs in the open?? Might it be this stuff doesn't fly too well with mainstream Americans, unless "sugar-coated" to dupe one's palette?

I like being referred to as a wingnut, right-wing extremist, angry mobster, and whatever else our state-run media conjures up. These terms of endearment reassure me that I'm on the right track. LOL

walter November 3, 2009 at 2:25 pm

this from CounterPunch

Wild Tales From the Reactionary Right
Conspiracy, Inc.
By ANTHONY DiMAGGIO

Obama the Socialist

Probably the most popular conspiracy theory is the claim that Obama is a closet socialist. This claim is clearly the most insulting and absurd charge against a president who has led the charge to rescue American capitalism from itself. Obama has promised to rejuvenate American banks, investment firms, and housing industry from their own destructive investments and speculation. Obama has granted hundreds of billions in bailout money and promised another $1 trillion for investment firms and banks to wipe out their toxic investment derivative assets. None of this is enough for conservatives, who cling to Obama’s half-hearted support for a “public option” in health care as evidence of his secret socialism.

For the record, the public option has nothing to do with socialism, considering that it is merely covering those individuals who have fallen through the massive cracks of the private health insurance industry. The public option is about as socialist as any other non-profit public service, including public education, public roads, police forces, fire fighters, and public libraries. All of these public services co-exist with private education, roads, security, etc. without threatening the foundation of capitalism. Then again, these “socialist” services have long been a target of conservatives who would prefer to deny the poor access to such services in the name of the “right” to private profit. It will not be surprising then, when we hear more about the devious “socialist” threats to children’s minds from public libraries, as well as attacks on the “tyranny” of organizations providing public education to the disadvantaged."

http://www.counterpunch.org/dimaggio10302009.html

The Irreverend November 3, 2009 at 2:27 pm

So Wally, are you advocating the abolition of the Department of Defense? What exactly are you trying to contribute here? If you just want to appear stupid, in the words of George Bush, "Mission Accomplished".

walter November 3, 2009 at 5:13 pm

not reverend…….what, you don't think military spending is just another way of stimulating the economy?

some say the real defense spending is around $1,000,000,000,000 a year. I would have no problem with reducing that amount.

Interesting comment about Bush and mission accomplished…….what a stupid thing that was

Da King November 4, 2009 at 9:26 am

Roy,
Getting over half the population to not pay for ObamaCare is the whole idea behind the shell game. Once the libs get the majority of Americans dependent on the government for their survival, the game is over. The libs win, and socialism reigns. Maybe the socialists will even come out of the closet at that point. I think it was Bachman who said this is the Super Bowl for freedom. She is right. This is a crossroads.

roysoldboy November 4, 2009 at 11:49 am

Speaking of libs, aren't they just progressives? And while we are there haven't progressives been socialists from the very beginning? Somehow I just can't understand how they function without eventually admitting that they are socialists.

Speaking of Bachman, I wonder just how afraid of her the lib bunch is. She makes so much sense to me and they just keep swinging away at her as if she were the enemy of the nation. I think most of them would rather follow Debbie Wasserman-Schultz than Bachman and WS makes me literally scream every time she comes on TV to make her left handed comments about anything.

Da King November 4, 2009 at 12:18 pm

The more the libs call a conservative names, the more afraid of that conservative they are. The libs call Bachman lots of names.

Gary November 10, 2009 at 5:26 pm

ok let me see if i got this 1 right obama is raising taxes and making it mandtory that everyone and i meen everyone pays for health care or you get fined by the same arces we put in office but while our rights get stompped into the ground we still have to obyde by the letter of there rules while the rich still get richer and the man that makes a meger living by working 2 jobs that are min. wage and cant pay bills or cant eat it"s your choice which 1 u do they still want this MAN YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME this makes absoulty no sence to me what so ever and i dont c how taxing the he l outta everything is going to help the ones that need it but the ones that got it dont get hurt just the lil guy does if we want to make things right cut the monies that congress state reps. and yes even oboma makes and give it back to the people think about this when a U.S. senator retires form office he still makes roughly 87,ooo$ a year aqnd has the secret service at his beckon call to baby sit him or his family anytime it is needed my opion were going to get to the point to where the sick can only die cause they dont have ins. now thats just WRONG but maybe i'm wrong if so please inlighten me as to how to feel about all this B S

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