Here's Valerie Jarrett, senior advisor to President Barack Obama, speaking to CNN about Fox News:
I don't know how a clip could illustrated the dishonesty of politics any more than this clip does. When Jarrett is asked if Fox News is biased, she immediately answers "Of course they are biased. Of course they are." When CNN interviewer Campbell Brown follows up immediately by asking if MSNBC is also biased, Jarrett starts backtracking and deflecting, never answering the question (correct answer – Of course MSNBC is biased. Of course they are). Jarrett said, "Actually, I don't want to generalize all of Fox is biased or that another station is biased. I think what we want to do is look at it on a case-by-case basis. When we see a pattern of distortion, we're going to be honest about that pattern of distortion….We're actually calling everybody out. So this isn't anything that's simply directed at Fox. We just want the American people to have a really clear understanding."
Well, that's funny. I haven't heard the Obama administration call out any other network than Fox News. In fact, MSNBC's opinion show anchors were invited to the White House for a cozy little chat with Obama. Liar, liar, pants of fire, Ms. Jarrett.
And did you get a load of Jarrett saying on the video that the White House is "going to speak truth to power" ????? Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure the White House IS THE POWER.
Valerie Jarrett admitted what this was really about. It's about health care reform, and the fact that Obama is having a difficult go of it. The majority of the American people are against it, and the majority of the American people are turning against Obama on the issues in general. It has become a disturbing trend of this administration to demonize anyone and everyone who gets in it's way. The insurance companies, the drug companies, the Chamber of Commerce, doctors, whomever. Obama even sank so low as to say doctors were cutting people's feet off for profit, for chrissakes. If you have to resort to demonizing people whose job is literally to save other people's lives, then you have a problem.
Politicians are professional liars by trade. You can choose to believe in the current bunch of liars if you wish, but I sure don't. You may think it's fine for the government to force all Americans to buy health insurance as a condition of residency, but I don't. I guess we better change that old saying about death and taxes to death, taxes, and health insurance. The current bunch of professional liars is also bankrupting the country faster than any other. This administration also seems more partisan than any other in memory. I don't hear Obama talk about a problem that he doesn't blame on someone else first. To hear Obama talk, it seems there was no America prior to George W. Bush, because all the problems seem to have originated from that one man.
And do any of you really believe that ObamaCare won't add one dime to the deficit ??? Really ??? Do you really believe Congress will cut $400-500 billion from Medicare to make that happen ? Really ???
If you are naive enough to believe that, check out this article on the "doctor fix" for Medicare, which would have added $247 billion to the deficit if the Republicans and thirteen Democrats hadn't voted it down. The Democrats tried to separate that $247 billion in debt out of ObamaCare and pass it as a standalone measure, so that ObamaCare "wouldn't add a dime to the deficit." (except for the $247 billion, of course).
Like I said, politicians are professional liars. The current group of liars isn't even particularly good at lying. It's just that the media has, to date, let them get away with it. It's time for that to stop. It's time for the press to be the ones speaking truth to power, as is their job. The White House is only speaking THEIR truth. That's not necessarily THE truth.
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this IS the most pathetic thing you have ever posted
The truth hurts huh walt. If you don't agree with the current socialist plot then you will face the consequences. I saw today that the recession is about to be announced as over. That announcement alone proves they are liars.
Like the administration, Walter, you have failed to provide any specifics as to what is so awful about this post other than that it apparently doesn't fit your own view of the world. If Fox is so full of such lies, why doesn't the Administration address the supposed lies? Prove Fox is wrong since it's "so obvious!" But they don't; instead they just try to generally discredit Fox News without any actual evidence to show why Fox can't be trusted and why other news sources such as CNN, MSNBC, etc. can be. Sorry, that just reeks of yet another straw man argument and indicates the Administration is simply trying to deflect and avoid the truth. Again, if Fox is so wrong, demonstrate how.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU&feature=popular
joe, where's my money? You lost the bet. Now pay up
jrid……this was King's post on the Rev's blog…….
"Da King October 24, 2009 at 10:00 am
A truly pathetic post. Pick out a few clips you don't like, and then ignore the hours and hours and hours and hours of news that Fox News covers every single day.
Useful idiots.
I'm sorry you are against free speech and a free press, Rev, but you'll just have to deal with it."
where were you with your failing to provide specifics when King posted this?
walter,
What on earth are you talking about now ? What specifics was I supposed to provide there ? Did you want me to link to "hours and hours and hours and hours of news" that comes from Fox News every day ? I think that would be impossible, but here's an idea for you. Turn your television to Fox News and watch it all day long. You'll see all kinds of news there, contrary to the opinions of the Reverend and the White House. The Reverend's contention that Fox is not a news organization is so lame and easy to disprove that only a numbskull would believe it in the first place.
One difference I can think of is on MSNBC you have a show that is slanted to the right Morning Joe. I can't think of any show on Fox news which is slanted to the left. Morning Joe has on it Mika Brzezinski who is a weakling who does a great job making women look stupid! But supposedly she's the counter side to the strong republican who calls himself a moderate. On Fox you have once again the strong Conservative as in Hannity and the weakling liberal Colmes. But there are no shows where the strong voice is to from the left. Now is there? So thats slanted . I mean really they cant even have one show ????
You're completely missing the point, Andrea. The point isn't that Fox isn't biased. Of course they are…but so is MSNBC (and so is NBC, CBS, the NY Times, etc). You can't watch that nighttime lineup with Matthews, Olbermann, Maddow, and Schultz and tell me MSNBC isn't biased. They obviously are, to the nth degree.
The point is that the White House is singling out one for criticism and excluding it (FOX), while at the same time endorsing the other. It's entirely political, and has nothing to do with reality. The White House couldn't be more dishonest. THAT'S the point.
joe,
That is one scary video, and I'm only about 15 minutes into it.
And it explains all the financial bailouts pretty well, doesn't it ?
I didn't used to believe in the New World Order when I first heard the expression (from Bush Sr. in the late 80's), but I have no choice but to believe in it now. It's unfolding right in front of our eyes, as both parties of our government engage in stealing away the Constitutional rights of the people. We even used American taxpayer money to bailout foreign banks during the financial crisis.
King, I see the market manipulation in the FOREX market every week.
If Rev would watch it, as unbearable as it would be for him because of the main characters, he would find he is allegedly almost spot on… They even use his favorite word bankster. Of course this is this guys opinion just like Micheal Moore's but it sure does make you think. Did you see the # of viewings?
King, I took that video for about 19 minutes and just had to stop watching. I tried it about a week ago and am about ready to try some more of it. I probably won't live to see it come to a point but my sons and grand children will and I care more about them than the people Jones is talking about.
Why does Walter think his one sentence statement makes more sense than what the King said to Rev? I think that I see two socialists banding together there.
Andrea, almost no day passes without Bob Beckel being on Fox, somewhere and he shows up enough on Hannity that I just don't watch Hannity because he might show up. Now Ed Schultz is a wild man for the left but he can't even hold a candle to Beckel. Old Bob doesn't even try to hide his lefthanded crap, he just blurts it out and then tries not to let anybody else get in a word against him.
King sez……"What specifics was I supposed to provide there?"
my point exactly to jrid. Why does jrid expect something of me that he doesn't expect from you? Sounds two-faced to me.
watch Fox News all day long? Didn't you see the Pew poll from the American Chronicles where the Fox News viewer is more likely to be mis-informed that I posted over at Rev's blog? Don't you have enough Fox watching mis-informed people commenting here already?
The majority of Americans are against health care reform? Really? There may be people against the public option, but I don't know of anyone who thinks the health care insurance industry doesn't need reformed. Well, except those who believe in death panels, Sarah Palin is a viable presidential canidate, the earth is 5,000 yrs old, and it will end in the very near future.
I kind of agree with walter, King….lots of incorrect stuff in your post.
For example…
"Well, that's funny. I haven't heard the Obama administration call out any other network than Fox News."
If you review what Axelrod said last weekend, he said his concern was that OTHER media are being led astray by FOX's faux-stories of propaganda. FOX accuses other media outlets of being too easy on Obama, calls them liberal, and challenges them to show their non-liberalness by carrying some of FOX's lying stories. If the other outlets don't pick up on FOX's total lunatic coverage of ACORN, or whatever…then FOX points to that "evidence" as liberal bias. That's how stuff has been working for a very long time. It's the M.O. of the Village.
Example…..
"The majority of the American people are against it, and the majority of the American people are turning against Obama on the issues in general."
Between 60 and 70% of Americans are still in favor of a public option. Sorry, that simply isn't a "majority of American people" rejecting health care reform. Obama's approval numbers are still in the low 50's….same as Father Reagan at the same time in his first term. What you understand as "turning against" Obama, I'm thinking, is just those teabags obstructing your hearing and vision….perhaps the tea fragrance so close to the nose is causing bouts of choatic incoherence resulting in spasms of WTF blog posts. It's difficult and complex to diagnose precisely.
I realize, as Steele stated, that the "teabag" is a "beautiful thing"…..but when they're hanging from the head, you know, like wingers were doing at the Parties……well…..they get in the way, which could lead to a confusing of the senses.
I think that readers should consider King's post here a result of an acute case of TeaBag-itis. This odd malady is rampant in the south and is insidiously working it's way into wingnut-leaning brains in many other states. We all hope for King's rapid recovery from this debilitating condition.
to Rev…… "You fight your war and I'll fight mine."
Oh wait….that's a quote from Mao Tse-Tung
Now look what you've gone and done……you've given King, larry, roybot and King's other sycophants ammunition to now call me a communist rat bastard
Thanks alot
LOL….and don't think they won't!
King,
You and I live in a world where lies have consequences. Our leaders live in a different world.
We have arrived at a point where they can look into the camera and say what ever sounds good knowing that if it turns out to be false or is an obvious lie their is no consequence to them. Their lies hurt the people and damage our nation but doesnt impact them. What is particularly galling is when the individual has broken the law for monetary gain and blithely explains that they have done nothing wrong and it is merely a partisan attack against them when any idiot can see they are lying.
Which brings me to my often stated bottom line. They understand that it isnt a lie if you can get away with it and we are so busy fighting amongst ourselves that they can do or say almost anything they want.
Rev, I would bet that most of those people don't understand what "public option" means. The way Wasserman described it the other day, I feel mislead.
Below, you are misled(not mislead, you Rhodes Scholar) as soon as you wake up in the morning.
Never said I was a Rhodes Scholar TBomb. I have a Master's degree. Mislead, Misled whatever. I see you and your brilliant mind are adding great things to the topic. Oh yeah T, my degree taught me how to make cash and I would bet that with last nights move on the British Sterling and the Dollar and the Euro/Dollar trades I made more than you will make in the next 2 years. I could give a sh*t what you think of my spelling or my grammar.
And I would bet that most people don't understand the public option or how it will be funded. I didn't.
Walter- Actually, the quote you had from King did have specifics…he stated WHY he felt the post was "truly pathetic": "A truly pathetic post. *Pick out a few clips you don't like, and then ignore the hours and hours and hours and hours of news that Fox News covers every single day.*" He didn't just say like you "this IS the most pathetic thing you have ever posted" and leave it at that, he added some reasons WHY it was pathetic: because King felt Rev picked out a few clips he didn't like and ignored the hours of news that Fox covers every day. That simple. If you're gonna call someone out as a liar or pathetic, say WHY.
And no, I do not read every post and comment of every blog post for King or Rev, nor do I regularly check the comments after I initially post if I post at all. I also don't watch Fox News at all. I don't even use their website for news. In fact, most of my national news comes from the AP and Reuters through Yahoo, MSNBC, Ohio.com, Cleveland.com, and my local newspaper. So, thanks for the stereotype. Guess it's time to think of some new ones.
and what specifically does hours and hours of news that Fox covers have to do with the clips posted by Rev?
when you ask for specifics in essence you are asking for proof. King offered no proof that the Rev's post was pathetic.
joe….speaking about money…….you ever gonna honor your bet?
you made the bet and I called you…..it's time to show your cards. Prove me wrong or pay up
Looks like a few folks have taken issue with my statement that the majority of the people are against OBAMA's health care reform (I didn't mean that American's were against health reform in general. I'M for health care reform in general, but I oppose ObamaCare).
The common rebuttal seems to be that Americans are for the public option, but that isn't really a rebuttal. The majority of Americans are against ObamaCare in it's entirety, as the polls show.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2009/10/pew_poll_plural.php
joe,
I've always considered Alex Jones to be nutty, but that video made some excellent points. Instead of Michael Moore getting nationwide movie releases with his jive, I rather see that movie be released. It might wake some people up. 300,000 views is good, but millions would be better.
Rev,
Just because I prove you wrong almost every day doesn't mean you have to make stuff up that I was allegedly wrong about.
Fact – The White House singled out Fox News for criticism. The other networks weren't criticized, they were just told not to listen to Fox.
Fact – The majority of American ARE against ObamaCare according to the polls, as I just illustrated.
Fact – The Tea Party movement (not the insulting "Teabagger" word, which is somewhat akin to me calling you a faggot before commenting on your political beliefs), is about balanced budgets, paying down the debt, and getting the government back to it's constitutional limits. If that's crazy, I happily accept the label. And don't think I didn't catch your intimation that I'm somehow a racist when you said the Tea Party movement started in the south. You really are a despicable human being, you know. I'm entirely too nice to you.
angryc,
I don't have anything to add to what you said except – great comment. Our leaders lie to us constantly. I'm at the point where I'm more surprised when they don't lie.
JRid,
Thanks for pointing out the obvious to walter.
Not that you'll get through to him. That's impossible, as you can see by walt's next comment.
Funny…I don't feel like a "despicable human being."
No one was told not "to watch Fox." That's not true. What others in the media were warned about was so quickly picking up on FOX's propagandistic and fact-challenged "stories."
The public option is an integral part of "Obamacare". Almost 70% want the public option.
You can say what you want about Tea Partiers….matters not to me…..Tea Partiers were organized by corporate astro-turf groups, and have no coherent "message" other than they do not want Obama to be president.
"The Tea Party movement (not the insulting "Teabagger" word, which is somewhat akin to me calling you a faggot before commenting on your political beliefs), is about balanced budgets, paying down the debt, and getting the government back to it's constitutional limits."
Hey, you guys started the TeaBagger stuff, not me…not Democrats, not liberals. Steele said the Teabag was a beautiful thing…not me. I don't even like tea. And those teabags I saw hanging from wingnut headware at those Parties…..I didn't put them there either. I also didn't participate in the great event of sending special teabag-filled packages to Congressional representatives. Partiers did that too.
And we've already covered extensively the FACT that no conservatives uttered a peep during the great and glorious Constitution-shredding days of George and Dick. Ditto the doubling of the debt and balancing budgets. Conservatives, with or without TeaBag adornment, were totally silent about those things until January 20th of this year.
King sez……"JRid, Thanks for pointing out the obvious to walter."
the only obvious thing is that "hours and hours and hours and hours of news that Fox News covers" has absolutly nothing to do with the Rev's thread
I could have said the reason for King's post being pathetic was because the leaves were falling from the trees. I mean really, isn't leaves falling from the trees as specific to King's thread as hours and hours of news coverage is to the Rev's thread?
when it comes to intellectual dishonesty, it's just SS/DD for you guys
have you guys ever heard of something called sarcasm?
Rev,
If you weren't despicable, you'd stop lying and spinning.
#1 – I didn't say anyone was told not "to watch Fox." I said they were told not to "listen to Fox", (as in, don't pickup Fox stories that are critical of the Obama admin), and that is what they were told, by Rahm Emanuel and also at the cozy little chat Obama had with the liberal commentators.
#2 – I never disputed that the majority of Americans favor the public option as part of ObamaCare. Never said it. What I said was, the majority of Americans are against ObamaCare in the first place. That remains true, unless recent polling over the last few days is showing that Obama has now fooled the majority into believing his bs.
#3 – Liberals started using the word "teabagger" and "teabagging" as an insult, in reference to the sexual act (liberals being despicable and all). The Tea Party movement does not refer to themselves that way, obviously.
#4 – It is 100% false that no conservatives complained about Bush's deficits. I think you're confusing conservatives with Republicans in Congress (and even some of those complained, though not nearly enough). You keep proving you know nothing about the Tea Party movement by making such statements, but that's what I would expect from someone who gets all his information from people who are hostile to the Tea Party movement, despicable people who portray the Tea Parties as half KKK and half Timothy McVeigh. (namely liberal bloggers and their tv counterparts). Many Tea Partiers are former disaffected Republicans, and they became disaffected primarily by George W. Bush.
walter,
your babbling again.
"Liberals started using the word "teabagger" and "teabagging" as an insult,.."
Tea Partiers introduced the teabag stuff….not liberals. Conservatives hurriedly tried to twist their bogus protest of Obama to fit some Boston Tea Party template….and came up with tossing teabags into bodies of water as a visual reenactment. Thus…the TeaBaggers were born.
And I'm not getting the distinction here…
" I didn't say anyone was told not "to watch Fox." I said they were told not to "listen to Fox", "
Watch..listen, what difference does it make? Others were told not to be so quick to replicate FOX's stories. Good advice.
If you're going to constantly use a sophomoric sexual double entendre, at least own up to it, Reverend. Despicable and weasely is no way to go through life.