Earlier this week, I posted about the White House Enemies List, which consists mainly of Fox News and conservative talk radio. I assume ABC's Jake Tapper is also now on that list for daring to question the Great And Powerful Oz-bama team about bashing any media that isn't in Oz-bama's back pocket.
In that earlier post, my major complaint with Oz-bama's selective media bashing was this:
What really gets my goat about this is that Team Obama doesn't mind one bit when the media furiously spins things in Obama's favor. Everything the White House is saying about Fox News is true in reverse about MSNBC, who ceaselessly bashes the right, but no complaints from the administration about MSNBC's opinion journalism. No sir. They're perfectly fine with that. The White House is alright with opinion journalism when it represents the opinion of the White House.
Now it has come to light that not only is Oz-bama perfectly fine with HIS opinion journalists operating on news stations, he even calls them in for, let me make sure I quote this correctly, "two-and-a-half-hour off-the-record chats" to tell them what to say:
On Monday, MSNBC's Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow were among several people who attended an off-the-record briefing with Pres. Obama at the White House. Sources tell us other attendees at the two-and-a-half hour chat included Eugene Robinson of the Washington Post, Maureen Dowd of the New York Times, Gwen Ifill of PBS and Gloria Borger of CNN. Perhaps not surprisingly, no one from Fox News was in the room.
Here's the full list of opinion journalist attendees at Oz-bama's "chat."
The White House has sent TVNewser the complete list of those who attended the off-the-record briefing Monday: Eugene Robinson, E.J. Dionne, Ron Brownstein, John Dickerson, Rachel Maddow, Frank Rich, Jerry Seib, Maureen Dowd, Keith Olbermann, Bob Herbert, Gloria Borger, and Gwen Ifill. Several members of the staff also attended.
The hypocrisy of the White House is off the charts. Notice that Oz-bama's off-the-record briefing with liberal opinion journalists came ONE DAY after Oz-bama's apparatchiks made the rounds demonizing Fox News on the sunday political talk shows. Team Oz-bama is so tuned in to MSNBC (the official White House news network), that it even e-mails corrections to MSNBC while it's talking heads are on-air. Un-be-liev-able. Meanwhile, Glenn Beck has been asking daily on his program for the White House to call and correct any errors Beck might be making. So far, nada.
On the heels of his "chat" with liberal opinion journalists, Oz-bama had this to say in an NBC exclusive interview, when asked if it was appropriate for the White House to determine what is or isn't a news organization:
"we are going to take media as it comes, and if media is operating basically as a talk radio format, that's one thing, and if it's operating as a news outlet, that's another. But it's not something I'm losing a lot of sleep over."
Sorry, Mr. President. That simply isn't credible. The man behind the curtain has been exposed. The President doesn't send out his flying monkeys to demonize one news outlet and then have two-and-a-half-hour meetings with friendly opinion media unless it's part of a media control strategy. If the prez wasn't losing sleep over Fox News, he could have spent that two-and-a-half-hours in more productive fashion…like, say, coming up with a strategy for the Afghanistan War or fixing the economy.
To prove further how much the White House DOESN'T "take the media as it comes," as if any further proof is needed, the White House tried to exclude Fox News from this week's interview with the Pay Czar, until the rest of the media objected. Even Oz-bama's media pals are objecting to his exclusionary tactics now, knowing what an outrageous and horrible precedent this would set:
Team Oz-bama. Creepier and creepier. Let's click our heels together three times and say "there's no place like America," where freedom of the press is considered a Constitutional right. I don't like this strange new land of Oz.
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I agree. Makes chills run up my spine, not tingles down the leg…
The White House said that FOX is not a news organization. It isn't. That's a fact that only FOX defenders refuse to recognize. FOX, like Obama correctly implied, is, at best, a talk radio-style opinion outfit. That's fine and all, but why pretend they aren't?
Should the White House refuse access to Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, all radio talkers, ….or should they be invited in also to question White House officials? By the way, Obama met in January with rightwingers at George Will's house. Did Bush ever meet with just left-wing media folks? Ever?
The fact that the other Village media outlets banded together only demonstrates that they belong to the Village…..always seeking to please the other powerful Villagers.
Face it…the "vast right wing conspiracy" of Clinton's days…has become mainstream.
Conservatives are mostly blind…or ignorant…about today's media. Recall the main media's incessant coverage of those townhall bust-ups? Or the ACORN clustermess coverage? How was any of that in praise or in defense of Obama and the Democrats?
Both of those examples started with FOX. FOX sounded the wingnut alarm so loudly and for so long that the other Villagers jumped right on those manufactured "stories." When Axelrod warned that other media outlets, besides FOX, shouldn't be so quick to embrace FOX's manufactured and GOP biased "stories"….that's what he was talking about.
Are conservatives arguing FOR the spread of lies and propaganda now? Just curious.
Rev, how long did it take for the "good guys" to take up the ACORN clustermess, as you call it? Was it just a day or two or a week or two? It seemed to me that they finally jumped in when they realized that Fox had pretty well proved what they had. I am sorry for behaving like this since I know that you are a lot like ACORN in every way. LOL
KIng, I wonder why Rev didn't mention the words of Oba mao about not losing sleep about Fox. I thought when I heard him say it that that was purely a lie floating out of his mouth.
Being on this White House's enemies list seems to me like a real honor while being on the friends list woul automatically allow Tapper to show up with a different employer.
Tapper is just another arrogant Villager.
By the way, where did this "enemies list" nonsense come from? Obama isn't compiling any enemies lists. He said FOX is not a news organization. What does that have to do with some non-existent enemies list?
Why would Obama lose sleep over small-fries like FOX? The majority of Americans realize that what Obama said…needed to be said. The only folks who are shocked and traumatized by what the White House has been saying are the tiny, tiny minority of Americans who still think FOX tells the truth. Silly FOX viewers.
I find Obama's attacks of those that criticize and /or attack him not surprising but none the less very troubling . But as far as inviting the MSNBC clowns to the White House it is no different than Bush's meetings with various right wing talk show hosts during his Presidency.
FOX is a news organization Rev. They are just as credible as MSNBC, CNN and the like. THey are demonized because they disagree with communism and socialism and believe in freedom. Obama has declared war on them through the ignorance of trying to discredit them. Afterall if you can't get rid of someone or something, the Dem playbook says you must discredit and destroy the person or organization, just look at what they did to Sarah Palin, they didn't even know her and they destroyed her with lies, big f**king lies then they sorted the truth later.
Funny how they still stick up for the crooks at ACORN and Sachs.
And Rev if we wanted to watch someone that spread lies and propaganda and were in the pocket of this administration all we would have to do is go to NBC and all of their minion offshoots. Look how they've spread lies and propaganda since 2000 when Bush beat Gore for rhe presidency.
That's right angry.
average…..Bush didn't beat Gore in 2000, Gore had 500,000 more votes. How democratic is that?
And why have you allowed yourself to be caught up in the Sarah-is-a-victim trap? I only wish Sarah the best…..but it's so obvious that she is simply and only a telegenic opportunist. Nothing wrong with that….but presidential material? Ain't no way.
I stand up for what ACORN does good. I want Goldman closed and it's officers placed into federal prison…..and I don't care if Summers and Geithner go with them. So there's that.
Who is liberal on NBC? Who? It sure isn't Bryan Williams. Olbermann, Maddow and Shultz…..that's it. And that's including ALL news outlets. There are no other left voices in anchor positions. Couric, Gibson, Mitchell, Todd…are all Villager clones who support the status quo, ….that ain't liberal.
Below, you are are still well below…oh I forgot, you have a Masters degree….ha ha you can barely spell….please continue posting!
angryc,
When Obama met with his liberal media buddies, including Olbermann, the single biggest news distortionist in the country, ONE DAY after his minions went on the attack saying Fox News wasn't a news organization (and of course Fox News is a news organization. That isn't even worthy of debate), then it showed an extraordinary amount of hypocrisy on Obama's part. And when the Obama admin tries to exclude Fox News from media events, that should trouble everybody.
Rev,
You're such an Obama company man. That's so sad.
You blame Fox News for covering ACORN's multitude of sins. You should be blaming the rest of the media for not covering ACORN.
Then you pose this absurd question – "Should the White House refuse access to Rush Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, all radio talkers, ….or should they be invited in also to question White House officials?"
Nobody is saying that. Fox News is a legitimate news organization, as legitimate as any of the rest. The point here is, the Obama admin should not exclude Fox News reporters. I can't believe you are trying to defend that. You're in the wrong country. Try Venezuela or Cuba.
Then you cap your hypocrisy off by trying to say Palin wasn't a victim, after she was torn apart by the liberal media, who told a mountain of lies about her, did everything they could do to try to bring her down, and harrasses and insults her to this day.
Nearly every word you speak is rife with double standards. You hate Fox News because you disagree with them ideologically, end of story. This is America, in case you've forgotten. We have freedom of the press. Just because you don't like a viewpoint doesn't mean it should be squashed.
Rev asks, "Who is liberal on NBC?"
ALL but a couple are Democrats.
I suppose that seems fair to you.
Rev stands up for what ACORN does that is good but never mentions the corruption in the group. I am sure that there have been serial killers who appeared to be good people to some especially if they took from the "rich" and gave to the poor. ACORN is the central entity in one of the most corrupt, money laundering groups the world has ever known. I am sure that Old Rev failed to believe one word the Fox people told about all the nearly 300 like organizations that had their mailing address in the same small building in New Orleans. Somehow nobody ever even attempted to refute that and yet ACORN and one of its member groups, SEIU continue in business doing their thing. Why ACORN even still gets its federal money from AmeriCorps because the Democrats control the same Congress that voted to stop that flow of cash to them. There is a lot of rot and corruption in ACORN but I am sure that it extends into that Democrat controlled Congress.
Come on and defend the actions of the Congress in this deal, Rev. Tell me how it is right and fair to give that money to one of the most morally corrupt groups in the world. Tell me how they didn't use their enforcement arm, Muscle for Money, to help cause the housing crisis. I have not found anything that tells me that it wasn't a part of the Emanuel "crisis" that couldn't be wasted. Help me understand all this Rev.
Rev, have you caught Beck, Hannity and O'Reilly reporting the news for Fox all day every day? You keep badmouthing Fox as a purely editorial group but somehow I watch them all day every day and don't see their kind of activity taking place. I don't care for their male, female type of reporting but would rather hear and watch Megyn Kelly than Bill Hemmer and so on. No Rev, Fox just reports things that happen each day with very little editorial inference. You sound just like my best liberal friends who swear they never watch Fox because of this or that and still know everything they did all day long and who the stars of each reporting team are and what they look like. Are you one of those secretive watchers who doesn't want the rest of the progressive group to know about you?
I know you are prone to making wildly exaggerated claims…like this….
"ACORN is the central entity in one of the most corrupt, money laundering groups the world has ever known."
..and this…
"Tell me how it is right and fair to give that money to one of the most morally corrupt groups in the world. Tell me how they didn't use their enforcement arm, Muscle for Money, to help cause the housing crisis."
But please, roy,…ACORN helps those who are disadvantaged and poor in America's cities. Because ACORN registers primarily Democratic voters, I understand your desire to villify and demonize them….but you're so over the top on this, it makes you appear….ridiculous.
I watch FOX, I see their video clips, I hear Hannity, Rush, Medved and Beck on the radio. I know the manure FOX is peddling. It's just that you're buying the manure and I'm not.
And this…
"No Rev, Fox just reports things that happen each day with very little editorial inference."
..is either openly dishonest on your part, or an example of being totally oblivious to reality.
Whatever has been wrong out their in Kansas…..is still….wrong.
I still want to know who was on Darth Cheney's energy task force…..you know the one he went to court to keep hidden
Rev says, "Bush didn't beat Gore in 2000, Gore had 500,000 more votes. How democratic is that?"
We have this thing called the Electoral College.
But if we're going by popular vote, then Obama didn't beat Hillary Clinton in the 2008 Democratic primaries either. Hillary had about 175,000 more overall votes than Obama did. That makes him an illegitimate President in the Reverend's eyes.
And Rev, Roy wasn't exaggerating about ACORN. All the evidence is out there. You just choose to ignore it.
Rev, I think that the fact that you hear all those radio people precludes you watching Fox News daytime reporting. It was the daytime I was talking about. You know the time when people of both sides of things are allowed to speak their piece. There is that one wildly Dem talk show personality named Bob who shows up all day long spewing left leaning Pelosi all over the place. I can't really believe that he actually believes most of what he spews. You do know the one I mean since you say you watch them all day long, I hope.
Speaking of allowing Dems to talk all day long, I am wondering how much of that takes place on MSNBC. I ask because I never see anything with NBC on the end, and for good reason.
Rev, you took my mention of Fox reporting the news all day long out of context and that is a very left leaning MO in my estimation. I said all day and you talk only about evening programming. I guess you never see any of those people like Bob Bechel appearing on Fox in the evening when all the editorializing takes place.
Poor soul, do you remember that? You don't really believe that anyone here really agrees with you and the Rahm/David attempt last week to begin the attempt at marginalization of Fox do you? Well maybe a couple.
I seem to recall less than 2 years ago the Bush administrations attacks on MSNBC & NY Times . Not only that they wanted to prosecute the journalists who published the truth , just because they didn't like it to come out . They weren't arguing the facts they were against the news to be reported. The difference with Fox is , it isn't news- it is slanted opinions. They have a few honest journalists on the show but they are still under control of those on top, Murdock the neo conservative. These journalists are told what they can and cant say. When I listen to it I can tell how they are misleading , but if you only listen to fox you are in a closed tunnel. That's whats wrong- you don't know how they are misleading they are because you only get one sided slanted info mising pieces of facts.
King has nothing on ACORN…..nothing. And he is wrong on the Hillary-had-more-primary-votes-than-Obama…..there's no evidence of that whatsoever.
roy…yes, yes, I'm sure FOX has a few respectable reporters…..I gave Shep Smith credit already. However, as Andrea points out, the FOX problem is from Murdoch and Ailes, especially Ailes. And he's running FOX news. Ailes is a pure anti-Obama, pro-Republican conservative who has built an entire "news" outlet into an arm of the Republican Party.
Rev, nothing on ACORN? I'll agree to that when the Dems finally figure out that they have nothing on Bush/Cheney.
1) I find it hilarious that Republicans are bashing Obama for allegedly playing the media, directly following 8 years of "If you bash Bush you're anti-American"
2) Are you really saying we should feel bad for Palin because of lies told about her, when she's openly telling lies across the world?
What's sad is that I honestly feel many Obama-bashers would rather him fail than succeed, and will try to do everythng in their power to make it happen.
It hurts when folks don't like Master, doesn't it Steve?
Andrea says, "I seem to recall less than 2 years ago the Bush administrations attacks on MSNBC & NY Times . Not only that they wanted to prosecute the journalists who published the truth"
I don't know about Bush going after MSNBC, but the Bush administration went after the NY Times for leaking classified information. That is light years away from what Obama is doing. He's going after Fox News because he doesn't like them.
And MSNBC's opinions are every bit as slanted as Fox News. Why isn't the President including them on his list of non-news organizations ????
I can't believe liberals are defending Obama on this. He has gone so far as to try to exclude one of the major networks, and all the liberals here are just trying to find some moral relativity, instead of standing up for a free press. Hot dang, folks. Wake up.
And Steve, I'm sure you can admit that the media bashed the heck out of Bush, correct ???? That was okay, wasn't it ????
Rev says, "King has nothing on ACORN…..nothing. And he is wrong on the Hillary-had-more-primary-votes-than-Obama…..there's no evidence of that whatsoever. "
That's what I like about you, Rev. When you don't have a response, you just resort to outright lies so you can remain in denial. ACORN indicted/convicted/ investigated for voter fraud in 14 states, and Rev says, nothing to see here. Sure buddy, whatever you say. I've written entire posts about ACORN. I guess you didn't read those.
And Hillary DID get more primary votes than your hero if all the votes from all the states are counted.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html
What now, Mr. Democracy ?
King sez……."ACORN indicted/convicted/ investigated for voter fraud….."
I know some of ACORN's workers were indicted and convicted of voter fraud (with ACORN's cooperation by the way), but I havn't seen where ACORN has been convicted of voter fraud.
Boy larry, you sure are witty! Judging by your other comments, no matter what Obama does, it will never be good enough for you. So no, I really don't care that you don't like "Master"
(God, that is SO funny! Call him Master, because people like him and that's sooo funny! Master! Ohhhh! Diss!)
Walt, thanks for making that irrelevant point. It wasn't ACORN who committed voter registration fraud, it was only people working for ACORN !
LOL !
Yes, and it wasn't ACORN who aided and abetted the pimp and prostitute sting, it was only ACORN workers !
And it wasn't Enron who ran the energy scam, it was just Enron workers ! Duh.
so your statement that ACORN was indicted and convicted of voter fraud is a lie….correct
the pimp and the pro…….why won't they release the entire Philly tape?
CFTC CHARGES ENRON WITH PRICE MANIPULATION AND OTHER ILLEGAL ACTS
WASHINGTON, D.C. – The U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) announced today the filing of a complaint in federal district court in Houston, Texas, charging defendants Enron Corp. (Enron), an Oregon Corporation headquartered in Houston, and Hunter S. Shively (Shively) of Houston, Texas, with manipulation or attempted manipulation, and charging Enron with operating an illegal futures exchange, and trading an illegal, off-exchange agricultural futures contract.
http://www.cftc.gov/opa/enf03/opa4762-03.htm
here's the lawsuit filed in federal district court….
http://www.cftc.gov/files/enf/03orders/enfenron-complaint.pdf
show me where ACORN was charged with voter fraud and the lawsuit filed
No lies from me, walt. Only from you.
They did release the Philly ACORN tape, and it shows the ACORN workers aiding and abetting the pimp and the prostitute, contrary to what ACORN said. The pimp and prostitute were not kicked out. ACORN lied again, and you are wrong again.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_acorn_video;_ylt=AoLwcd.TZKzhOBLh1jdGJ750fNdF
And why are you linking me to stuff about Enron ? How desperate.
Your realclearpolitics link shows Obama winning the primary popular vote by 41,000 votes.
And this is pure authoritarianism…
"I don't know about Bush going after MSNBC, but the Bush administration went after the NY Times for leaking classified information. That is light years away from what Obama is doing. He's going after Fox News because he doesn't like them."
Bush began an investigation into the New York Times. Charges were going to be brought, etc.
Obama said FOX is more of a talk-radio style network.
Those are, somehow, equal?
Is it that dyslexic problem again? FOX went after Obama, promoting anti-Obama events, repeating lies about Obama's administration. Obama, timidly, stated that FOX wasn't really a news organization…..something that the the majority of the country already knows to be the case. There were no threats made, no investigations opened, no charges brought…..nothing like that…..that's what Republicans do. Only a statement of the obvious. FOX is neither fair nor balanced, I suppose that's the ironic point,….and is no more a news organization than Rush Limbaugh is a reliable source.
And what's with the pimp and whore sting stuff. How ridiculous. There's nothing there. Some dumb asses played dress up and brought a camera and acted stupid and ACORN employees played along. I mean….WTF? This is evidence of what? Not a thing.
The ACORN voter registration problem is first and foremost, not a voter fraud issue. Conservatives knowingly blur the two. It is true that inependent contractors, working for ACORN, perpetrated fraud…but it was, primarily, fraud against ACORN. In every case I've read about, ACORN reported the fraudulent voter registrations.
This ugly and ignorant attack on ACORN is unseemly. Reprehensible.
Spin, spin, spin. Deceive, deceive, deceive. Geez, this gets tiresome.
#1 – I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you just read the realclearpolitics link wrong, Rev. The line that includes all the states is the fourth one down. Hillary got 175,000 more votes than Obama. If you remember, the Democrats undemocratically excluded some states. I believe your original point that I addressed was about having democratic elections, no ?
#2 – Rev says, "Bush began an investigation into the New York Times. Charges were going to be brought, etc. Obama said FOX is more of a talk-radio style network. Those are, somehow, equal?"
First of all, Obama didn't just criticize Fox News. If he had, I wouldn't care. He stopped making administration officials available to Fox News shows in August, and he tried to exclude them from the White House pool last week. He also had his minions say they weren't a news organization, which they are.
Secondly, are you now saying it's okay for the news media to divulge classified information ? I hope not. When Fox News does that to Obama, then you'll have something to talk about.
Third, Fox IS a news organization. It's stupid to say they aren't. They broadcast the news all day long, and they have political commentary shows on at night. Get over yourself.
#3 – "ACORN employees played along."
LOL. ACORN "played along." That's why ACORN fired those employees, for "playing along."
#4 – "The ACORN voter registration problem is first and foremost, not a voter fraud issue"
LOL again. Hundreds of thousands of phony voter registrations is not a voter fraud issue ? Are we in the Twilight Zone now ?
Seriously, you'll say anything to be an apologist for whatever liberals do.
And save your silly adjectives (ugly, ignorant, reprehensible). You're only using them because I called you despicable for the string of lies you promoted on the other thread, and because you've been exposed here. Just admit you're wrong. That's what an honorable person would do when confronted by such overwhelming evidence of his errors.