just saying

King's new definition of the day……free market does not mean free market

what do you think the "free" in free market means? Duh

I said this about 20 comments ago to Chris. "Free markets don't mean unregulated markets, and the government does exist to oversee markets to keep them in check (not take them over)."

You're arguing about nothing. Is it really that important to you to prove me wrong about something/anything that you'll simply make things up ? It seems so. That's your problem, not mine.

but then, what else would you expect from Beck and his fellow republican traveler King

a free market where there is enough regulations to prevent scammers like Kenny "Dead Boy" Lay and Jeff Schilling from taking advantage of Americans.

if the answer is no, then you like Bloom, think the free market is nonsense

And this statement by you, " According to you and Beck,just because it's not illegal, you should do it," is just one more in a long line of your outright lies. I said no such thing.

I didn't think you'd have a coherent response to my question. You didn't disappoint. After filtering through your spin, in essence you seem to agree with me – there is no alternative to the free market. You could have just said so, and left out all the nonsense.

larry…….you give a whole new meaning to the term shitbag

Unbelievable!!

Get back to me as soon as Counterpunch supplies you with an answer.

republicans Bush, Cheney and ped0phile protector Boehner gave it away to military contractors and oil companies. democrat Obama is giving it away to banks, Wall Street and insurance companies. What commie shadow government are you talking about?

Personally, I think he should claim his friends or French relatives have the inside scoop, or something.

Because walter pastes Counterpunch pieces here….does that prove that the free market is, like, really a free market?

"Are You Ready for the Next Crisis?
By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS

Evidence that the US is a failed state is piling up faster than I can record it.

One conclusive hallmark of a failed state is that the crooks are inside the government, using government to protect and to advance their private interests.

Another conclusive hallmark is rising income inequality as the insiders manipulate economic policy for their enrichment at the expense of everyone else."

http://www.counterpunch.org/roberts10262009.html

the free market is indeed nonsense

Me, I see it as republican California congressman Jerry Lewis gaming the system along with General Atomics. I see it as individuals rather than the federal government. I just wonder how much those drones would have cost the American taxpayer if free marketeer republican California congressman Jerry Lewis and free market proponent General Atomics had actually let the free market work? More? Less?

The point is that no matter whether it was republican California congressman Jerry Lewis or General Atomics, or both that were gaming the system, in this case the free market IS nonsense.

….."We know that the whole point is to game the system, to beat the market, or at least find someone who will pay you a lot of money because they're convinced that there is a free lunch."

Sounds like the federal government to me. Health care reform specifically meets the criteria.

from Counterpunch…….

"There are 28 Reapers, or Predator Bs, in existence, and each one costs approximately $10 million to build. They are deployed in Afghanistan and Iraq, and manufactured by General Atomics Aeronautical Systems— a San Diego based company that supplies both the U.S. Air Force, and Navy with its equipment. The company's Web site states that it "provides unmanned aerial vehicles and radar solutions for military and commercial applications worldwide." Our interest is in the aerial solutions it provides for our military and with our tax dollars.

Notably, GAAS parent company, General Atomics, was reportedly the single biggest corporate underwriter of congressional trips between 2000 and 2005. General Atomics spent more than $500,000 on close to 90 trips taken by members of Congress, at taxpayer expense, most of which were supposedly focused on the unmanned Predator spy planes used in Iraq and Afghanistan.

But, in 2002, a top aide to a Republican California congressman, Jerry Lewis, was allegedly paid by General Atomics to vacation with her husband in Italy. Shortly after returning from her trip, Letitia White resigned her position, and went on to become a lobbyist for—you guessed it, General Atomics.

It does get dicey. While she was still working for Rep. Lewis, who represents a district conveniently close to GAAS headquarters in San Diego, the congressman just happened to be at the helm of the House Defense Appropriations Committee.

Oh, and right around the time of the first MQ-9 flight, in 2001, General Atomics was sued for overcharging the U.S. government, and taxpayers, for projects the company completed between 1992 and 2001.

Rep. Lewis currently serves as the ranking Republican member on the House Appropriations Committee which is responsible for funding all federal programs, a fact Mr. Cheney, no doubt, finds heartening given that Lewis was among those who signed off on unmanned aircraft vehicles in much the same way that Cheney effectively converted the executive branch into a vehicle that can be run by remote control"

http://www.counterpunch.org/stahl10232009.html

Sounds like he's talking about Enron and the California energy market.

" ….. the government manipulating the market for political reasons. The bundling and securitizing of risky mortgage loans was setup by the government to alleviate risk (ha ha) to the banks. The derivative dangers on top of that were ignored because the housing market and Wall Street were booming."

King keeps stating this lie over and over…..it's still not true.

King believes that, primarily, Democrats wanted minorities to vote for them and so they hogtied and compelled banks to quit verifying income when blacks or Hispanics wanted to buy a house. King thinks, incorrectly, that the government forced banks to trick minorities and poor folks into paying 15% mortgages. King continues to claim that the government forced banks to inflate home appraisals so they could lend more. None of that is true.

King must also think that the government forced banksters to come up with new gambling games, like credit default swaps, …….ditto the ratings industry, King must believe that the feds compelled the ratings industry to give anything that moved AAA status.

King can believe all this…..but, naturally, none of it is true.