Sorry, Rev, but you have it wrong. All I want is health care reform that MAKES SENSE, that will not ruin health care in this country, that will not restrict care, and that will not break the bank. Crazy, I know.

So far, Obama's "reform" doesn't really answer the questions. It also doesn't address the entitlement liability problem. He also hasn't said how it will be paid for. He also hasn't been honest about how much it will cost.

But he DOES want us to stop talking and act anyway. Screw him. If we change health care, we have to get it right.

How does it feel to be the enablers of the richest 1%? Is it really that invigorating?

Thank goodness for the CBO.

The writer of these words somehow was defending the "reform" bills for Healthcare and, I think, pointing out that it is finally coming to light what both houses are proposing. That sounds like the major change is in the way the Congress is doing business these days. Last winter and spring they passed huge bills like this without reading or analyzing at all.

The last sentence here relates to the fat that the proposed legislation was only released two days ago. That is a radical change from the earlier period when bills were passed the same day they were released and not one member read them but did vote.

By golly Reverend we are gaining, aren't we. We are starting to see the fallacy of passing legislation in such a hurry because the President says it has to be done that way. King mentioned that the stimulus bill, or act, was a hurry up thing that provided money to be spent in a 4 year period in order to stimulate our economy to save it. Do we have that long to get that stimulus? I don't think so but the Dems in Congress seem to think that taxing small businesses will get all the money we need. Oh no, that can't be right, since Steny Hoyer says that no small businesses make more than $250,000 per year. Of course, old Steny hasn't looked at any of their tax statements, either.

Bush wasn't running in Minnesota.

The day Libertarian and Constitution party members vote for a lefty like Franken is the day those parties no longer exist.

You know, Rev, if we spent $10 trillion more right now, I'm sure that would stimulate the economy, but it would still be a really bad idea. I can't think of a worse idea from an economic standpoint. It would virtually guarantee that our economy collapses in the near future.

Obama's tax and spend policies, coupled with his massive expansion of government, will only exacerbate our financial problems.

I actually believe that actors can be as qualified as anyone to hold an elected position IF there's more to them than just being an actor. Reagan is a great example of an actor who went into politics but paid his political dues first. I don't believe that *anyone* is ready to lead the nation with no political experience. Obama is a great example. He seems overwhelmed, and have you noticed how much he's aged since he took office? I feel sorry for him, even though I fundamentally disagree with the man.

Re: Senate qualifications: I suppose the next personalities we'll see in DC would be Letterman, Springer, O'Donnel.

from the story……"The real reason Franken won with just under 42% of the popular vote is that three other candidates from three other parties (Independence, Libertarian, Constitutional) split off about 459,000 votes from the Democrats and Republicans. If not for the third parties, the vast majority of those votes would have been cast for Franken's opponent, Norm Coleman, giving him an easy victory." Where'd you get that information? I would have thought that both the Libertarians and the Constitutionalists would have rejected republican Coleman because of his support of Bush's anti-Constitutional policys

This wingnut stuff is like the Clinton-murdered-Foster nonsense.

Why, roy, would you want to publicly embarass yourself? Is that all that's left for conservative dead-enders?

And, on the stimulus…..would you rather have had Obama recklessly throw $780 billion around like snowflakes….you know, like the Decider did? Why would you want to hurriedly and recklessly spend tax dollars? I thought conservatives were oh-so-fiscally-responsible.

Rev, you failed sadly with that attempt at me. Lets look at unemployment. O-bum-a told us that without that stimulus act we would see unemployment go beyond 8%. Now that it is nearly 10%, nationwide, and far beyond that in many states, and so little of that stimulus money has been spent, I wonder just how bad it would have been without the Act. If he was talking true surely it would have been at close to 20% by now. Stimulus is a word that means to somehow change the situation, but how do you stimulate by making money available and then not using it?

I know you won't attempt to answer a hard question like that one but maybe you could explain to me what happens if Obama is ordered to show his proofs of citizenship. Will a Constitutional war develop if he can't? What happens if he refuses to show them? What happens to the bills that he has signed into law if he is proven unqualified? I think that just in case we "birthers" who believe in the Constitution are right we need to be doing some studying on this stuff.

Since you can't understand what really happened months ago, WND accepted the short form birth certification as not illegally formed. They never did accept it as proof of birth in Hawaii. How is it that he supplied that less than full form of proof of where he was born and didn't show the Birth Certificate? I think we all know the answer to that question. I guess you are like the rest of the too far left, in that you can't see the difference in the words certificate and certification. Obama said, himself, that words do mean something but you people refuse to see the difference in those words. I think that I must have one of those bumper stickers that reads, Where is the Certificate? Is that ok with you Rev Red?

"Not enough money has been spent in 6 months to effect the economy or unemployment, that I can see."

What would the unemployment rate be without the stimulus?
The economy was much worse…as all now agree…than previously thought.
Liberals would have doubled the package. It's only because of conservative resistance that the package was cut back.

And roy…..thanks for the "birther" appraisal. Keep that tinfoil hat on.

I would have thought that when the wingnuttiest of wingnut sites…World Net Daily….agreed Obama's birth certificate was authentic, that would have settled the wingnut objections. But…..sigh….it didn't.

Then again, maybe it's in your bank's best interest to not refi. Let us know when you get to the bottom of that.

What do you think about the CBO's projections of Obamacare… being a republican, this reinforces your disdain for the program, right?

I didn't say a celebrity can't hold high office. Obviously, they can and do.
But it says something about our country when a clown like Franken gains a seat in the Senate.

FYI – Reagan served in the military, was president of the Screen Actors Guild, worked for GE, and worked on the Goldwater campaign before he ever ran for political office himself. He worked his way into politics. What did Franken do ? Comedian, radio talker on a failed station, then voila, he's in the Senate. It's similar to Schwarzenegger, who also got elected because he was famous. Not a good criteria.

As for the CBO's "incomplete" analysis of ObamaCare – they can only go by the information available, and that information says exactly what the CBO claims. ObamaCare, to date, is not going to reduce net health care costs (latest CBO estimate has it adding $1.5 trillion), and it is not going to address the entitlement crisis. I certainly hope that changes, but it won't if Obama keeps pushing Congress to rush the current bill through.

My experience seems to be telling me that the banks are holding up this money.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/07/soto0mayor-hearings-complete-transcript-day-3-part-3.html

Poor Specter. He's stuck between a rock and a hard place, trying to figure out how to get re-elected. He doesn't know how to act. I guess that explains all the silly questions he asked Soto, like "Do you think Roe v Wade added stare decisis support to a woman's right to choose ?" Well, duh. How could it be any other way ? That's like asking if Saddam Hussein's hanging impacted his life expectancy.