I suppose I should write about Sarah Palin resigning as the Governor of Alaska, since she's been the subject of wall-to-wall news coverage since friday. The teevee talking heads have been all atwitter with their uninformed opinions (they range from "Palin is an out-of-the-box genius thinker" to "Palin is an idiot").
Let's see, what can I add to that discussion ?
Probably not much, but I see Palin as neither a genius nor an idiot. She became an instant sensation for the Republican party when John McCain selected her to be his Vice Presidential candidate in 2008. Rumor has it that McCain wanted to select Joe Lieberman, but was convinced to pick Palin instead, because conservatives weren't too happy about having a liberal Democrat (on everything but the war) as McCain's running mate. Palin fit the GOP bill as both a social and fiscal conservative, and BONUS!, she was a woman (and still is, in spite of liberal protestations to the contrary).
After Palin made her debut as McCain's running mate, McCain overtook Barack Obama in the polls. Palin excited the GOP base and many women voters, though later her inexperience on national issues would become a drawback.
The Palin phenomenon brought out the liberal hate machine like nothing I have ever witnessed before in my lifetime. They attacked her appearance, her husband, her children, her state, her hometown, her accent, her clothes, and anything they could dream up. More lies were told about Sarah Palin than I can even count. Among the liberal falsehoods were – Palin wanted to ban books, Palin didn't believe in sex education, Palin was a member of a secessionist party, Palin faked her pregnancy to cover up her daughter's pregnancy, Palin wanted creationism taught in schools, Palin's son was forced into the military for vandalizing buses, Palin cut the budget for special needs children…..and there are TONS more. They are all lies, and almost all were repeated by the mainstream media. This is in addition to Palin being called a b*tch, a Nazi, a hick, a cheerleader, a bimbo, an airhead, a sexpot, a slut, a whore, etc, etc. Pure hate from many of those "tolerant" liberals (who are really elitist, sexist, classist, anti-christian frauds).
And that was only during the presidential campaign. The attacks on Palin have NEVER stopped. She has had no less than 15 spurious ethics complaints brought against her by her opponents. ALL have been dismissed. I have written about them before. Think about this. That's 15 ethics complaints brought against Palin in only 2 1/2 years as the Governor of Alaska. Do you think someone was out to get her ? The answer is pretty obvious.
But just because people were out to get her is no reason for Palin to allow herself to be gotten, and in my opinion, that's just what she did by resigning. In addition to letting down the voters who elected her, she has let the haters harass her out of office. By doing that, she is only encouraging even more such lowlife tactics in the future, because now the lowlifes will see that their phony tactics can work. Sarah the Barracuda has become Sarah the Guppie, and if she has presidential aspirations (which I actually doubt), she just made it a lot tougher for herself by giving ammunition to her enemies.
Score one for the haters.
And here's a parting shot from one of the HuffPo haters, who wrote a piece called 'Palin Will Run In '12 On More Retardation Platform'. Stay classy.
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Actually they were pretty much all lies defended by twisted spin by the right .
Banning books Palin asked librarian Mary Ellen Baker if she would be all right with censoring library books should she be asked to do so. Baker's reply was that she would definitely not be all right with it. (So she tried to right otherwise why ask ?If librarian had said yes she would have )
On sex education Palin gave this response to the following question:
Will you support funding for abstinence-until-marriage education instead of for explicit sex-education programs, school-based clinics, and the distribution of contraceptives in schools?
Palin: Yes, the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support.
While Palin wasnt a member of the secessionist party her husband Todd was.
On creationism while she didnt ask for it to be in the schools She has said that students should be allowed to "debate both sides" of the evolution question. Now that means it got to be discussed in schools right ? How else can you debate it ?
As for cutting budget of special needs kids Palin vetoed $275,000 in funds for the Special Olympics Alaska.
The way the GOP defends these things is sort of how they defended her bridge to no where ..which she was for until she didnt get the funds then she was against it but accepted the funds anyway. So they say she wasnt for it ..well of course when you know you can't do something you can easily now change your mind and say you are against it . Oh yeah and she lied about being cleared in all the Alaska investigations and as long as she can get away with it she keeps on spinning it and you guys keep on defending her spin. And she keeps shifting the blame oh poor me media attacking me ….sure
ps. my facts are right ..check em out I do my research
Also there were 18 ethic complaints against her All the complaints have been brought by Alaskans, except for one filed by Washington-based Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics for her $150,000-plus designer wardrobe . Although many of the complaints were dismissed doesn't mean she didn't do them orthat what she did was right . And State lawmakers concluded the governor broke an ethics law that prohibits public officials from using their office for personal gain. One complaint for example which the Alaska Personnel Board found no wrongdoing, because she later made a deal with them to pay back the state $10,000 for trips taken by her children . But doesn't mean she shoudl have had the government pay for her kids trips in first place.
Despite rambling and hateful diatribes with no real point (whose poor garmmar and structure make them too tiresome/downright painful, to read), I'll just say this. I agree with many of Palin's views. Liberals hated her because she was a better looking version of HRC, but she chose to be a conservative. I think she probably retired because being in the public spotlight, as she has been since she became McCain's running mate for an election that was over nearly a year ago, has had a negative effect on her family.
I don't think she'll run in '12. It's too soon to be concerned about that, anyway. But, just maybe, she thinks that her family will be better off if they're not being attacked by the media constantly. And maybe Alaska will be better off if the governor isn't being constantly distracted by spurious ethics investigations?
And, Andrea, I'm sure you do your research, but you write so poorly, I couldn't really make out a point. Just more dragging someone who is no longer a public concern through the mud a lil' more. Are you really that threatened by a woman who used to have power but doesn't believe in the liberal agenda?
BTW, if we're blaming Palin for her husband being a member of the secessionist party, why aren't we at all concerned that Obama's mother was a member of the Communist party? It's because we don't do the guilt-by-association thing. It's like calling me an arsonist because my neighbor set his house on fire. Stupid.
King, 15 ethics complaints in such a short time and most of them after the election of 2008 was over makes me wonder if someone from the left is really as afraid of the woman as I have kept saying. If THEY aren't afraid of her it seems to me that they are wasting a lot of time trying to destroy her with their complaints. It won't stop, though, because of her resignation. They will keep her name in front of us because they really seem to believe like Andrea and Walter that they must destroy the woman before 2012 so she won't be a threat to Our Glorious Leader that they spent so much time (all of 2007 and most of 2008) and money getting elected and coronated. Well maybe coronation is a bit strong but that surely wasn't the usual inauguration day.
Andrea, what do you mean when you say things like this? I make no sense of it but surely you have some idea. ***.which she was for until she didnt get the funds then she was against it but accepted the funds anyway.*** Did she get the funds after saying she said she was against the bridge? What did you say there?
Tory, let me say that I have been reading Andrea for many years and we never agreed but she is much more understandable now than many years ago. She is gaining. I write to an Aussie all the time and he works his butt off to help me understand what he says because he knows that Australian English and American English aren't the same thing and tells me about it now and then. He manages about as well as Andrea does but his Anglicized version slips in now and then as does hers. I think that Andrea started life as an English child and doesn't always manage to make the switch in writing.
Andrea, I have always liked you and respected you so don't take all of my comments as trying to expose anything like you folks of the left try to do when writing about Palin. BTW, I like and respect her over you although I have known you longer. I am one of those stupid white men that immediately fell in love with Palin the first day she spoke. Even my wife feels the same way about her as do both my sons. It looks like, if I live that long, we have four votes in our family for her in 2012. That is kind of like the saying about little acorns being the starters for might oaks.
You know, she could be ill, or a member of the family is ill…we just don't know and it's time the far left and the MSM lay off this woman and her family.
I too in all my life, have never seen such attacks directed on anyone in politics, as have been placed on this woman. It leans towards insanity.
To this day it amazes me how any person, Democrat or Republican, can take Palin as a valid Presidential candidate. If McCain really thought that Palin was the answer last fall……WOW. I look at this woman and ask myself if I would feel comfortable as Palin as VP or President. Don`t get me wrong, Palin is a wonderful mother, wife and grandmother. But, Palin will arguably go down in history as the most unprepared candidates for the executive branch of government. I listened to some of her responses and quotes and thought to myself, "are you kidding me?" Is the GOP serious? Hey, great lady………
Tory, as roy mentioned, should be a bit kinder towards Andrea. Andrea's comments are excellent and have been for a very long time. Now, let me treat Tory like she treated my good friend Andrea…..you know, for educational purposes only…nothing persoanl.
"BTW, if we're blaming Palin for her husband being a member of the secessionist party, why aren't we at all concerned that Obama's mother was a member of the Communist party? It's because we don't do the guilt-by-association thing. It's like calling me an arsonist because my neighbor set his house on fire. Stupid."
Have you forgotten Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers? I'm not going to use the word stupid because I'm not…..but, certainly Tory, your attention span isn't that short.
And by the way, EVERYTHING Andrea said was factual…all of it.
I think that she has probably had her fifteen minutes of fame, or at least fourteen minutes and 30 seconds of it. For the most part even successful vp candidates are soon forgotten, let alone unsuccessful ones. By the way what ever happened to Geraldine F.?
Throwing her hat in the ring again at the national level seems to me like a bad idea. I doubt that she actually netted many votes for the GOP, but what the H…! Even old Honest Abe would have had trouble following Bush.
It certainly does seem to me that her critics have often diminished themselves by their rather rabid efforts. I wonder if there might be some latent sexism on the left side of the Democratic party. I do recall they seemed to think Hillary was a fascist according to some of the E-mails I got. Maybe energetic intelligent women are to be divided into 'our energetic intelligent women' and 'those bitches'.
King….there's been an apology by the Huff Post guy.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/erik-sean-nelson/a-post-apology_b_225568.html
Palin had no trouble, whatsoever, dishing it out…..she's the "palling around with terrorists" originator and had no trouble throwing around the "socialist" label. She had little trouble attacking the media. She is pretty and a fundamentalist and can act cocky in front of a microphone…..that's why McCain was stuck with her. But she behaves in a petty, often silly manner, and as Andrea rightly corrects you, she's lied a lot.
Everyone should read this….
"This was followed by a CBS piece detailing several leaked emails in which she asked the McCain campaign to lie about Todd Palin's 7-year membership in a secessionist party. McCain strategist Steve Schmidt responded to her request saying that Todd was a member, and it was a secessionist party and he wasn't going to create an issue in the media if it didn't exist already, nor would he lie for her."
Here's Schmidt's response….
'The statement you are suggesting be released would be inaccurate. The inaccuracy would bring greater media attention to this matter and be a distraction. According to your staff there have been no media inquiries into this and you received no questions about it during your interviews. If you are asked about it you should smile and say many Alaskans who love their country join the party because it speaks to a tradition of political independence. Todd loves his country.
We will not put out a statement and inflame this and create a situation where john has to adress this.'"
She has lied on multiple occasions.
It's not really all that latent. For women dem politicians, if you're not a lesbian or don't look like one, you probably shouldn't speak out too much.
Red, you put a link to a HuffPo article in a post and then go on to call anyone a liar? Now that is very left leaning Rev and it bothers me.
Andrea is always truthful as she sees the truth but not always totally truthful because her truth comes from places like the al Times of New York and other left leaning blog sites. I love the girl but don't worry about her telling truth other than to lefties.
I wasn't calling anyone stupid. I was just saying that guilt by association was a stupid idea. I said the same thing when all the crap with Rev. Wright was going down. Same thing, but some people seem to joy in pulling that crap, while crying foul when the favor is returned.
And, I'm sorry, if someone is incomprehensible (and I know a lot of British and Australians, hasn't made a lot of difference in how I communicate with them), I'll call them on it. My 9th grade English teacher would be proud, lol.
They pick on Sarah to take the focus off of what is really happening in the White House. The lib media, and yes it is all lib except FOX, knows what they have to do to keep the heat off of Obama as well was our Democratic controlled congress. She is the Michael Jackson of the political world. I love how the libs absorb everything negative they hear about someone and then use it like it's the truth.
Andrea, are all of the things you say truthful and fact? Maybe on some conspiracy blog pages that focus on the indepth psychobabble of what the deep thinkers on the left think she meant when she said……
You speak her families trip. How do you feel about Obama's date night romps? Should I pay for those when he has done absolutley nothing to fix this economy except put us further in debt? Were her clothes paid for by taxpayers or the RNC? Those were donations not taxes.
Why shouldn't creationism be debated in school. There is just as much proof of that as there is that man has created global warming.
Also Sarah cut the special olympics budget. She didn't get rid of the whole thing. Our govt needs to start doing more of this now and stop spending us into ruin. Your statements are true but are not complete. Therefore you are being dishonest like all of your Lib blog buddies in the world that tell only the part of the story they want people to hear.
You say "my facts are right ..check em out I do my research"
I do my research also and I think that Andrea picks and choses what she wants to write and in usual media(all media Lib and con) she writes to steer the reader into her beliefs. Get to the bottom of the subject and don't let me catch you deleting one fact or spinning one tale and you will gain the respect a hard working blogger like yourself deserves. Until then you are a blogging hack with nothing.
That Sarah, she's so hot right now! And Below…..so dumb right now!
Tbomb, which of her actions do you consider stupid? I think maybe we better wait and find out what she had in mind before we jump off into liberal land calling anybody stupid. This is kind of like all the other things that have been used on lib blogs to show that the woman liberals fear so much is stupid. There is a chance she has taken libs to the cleaners and they don't know it yet. I think that when someone calls someone else stupid without knowing why they did a thing there are two things going on. One the accuser is a bit stupid and two the accuser is a bit afraid of the accused so they try to make him/her look as bad as possible before they find out the score.
In other words you just hit at the woman with the normal, I am scared as hell of this person, lib bashing tool.
TBomb – Roysoldboy is right. Yesterday the Libs claimed victory with a sigh of relief. Today they swear under their breath because of one sentence. "…answer a higher calling" What could this possibly mean? Everyone on the left is scratching their heads in disbelief and wonder. I could hear the chorus "… duh, what?"
The "liberal hate machine" is that anything like the "conservative hate machine." I guess it all depends upon whether you are a liberal or a conservative as to which phrase you embrace.
Tory
Actually a writing sample analysis of both yours and Andreas posts shows that while you write at a higher grade level than Andrea (seventh vs. sixth) your fog rating is much higher than Andreas indicating that Andrea's post is much more readable. Interestingly Palin resignation speech was written at a seventh grade level and her fog index was somewhat higher than yours. Just thought you might want to know.
BTW — my post is also written at a seventh grade level with a fog rating that indicates that it is more readable than Palin's and less readable than your post.
It is Sarah Palin (Average Joe) who picks and chooses how she presents things and weasels her way out of things. It was DA King who made the comment that she wasn't guilty of any ethic changes. My point was Sarah weaseled her way out of them , but was actually guilty of many of them. Because you pay back the money you steal and they do not send you to jail, doesn't mean you didn't steal it in the first place. And Roy as for the "bridge to no where" which she was against after she was refused for it . She accepted the funds even though she said no thanks to the bridge and used it for something else. So she wasn't against spending as she presented her self to be.
I am against Liars and I am for the truth. Politicians lie. Still just because politicians lie, that doesn't mean they lie for the same reasons or in the same ways.
Some people lie when comfronted reluctantly, as a sort of last resort, when they feel they have no other option. Others lie quite freely like Ms Palin , saying whatever comes to mind, whether true or not.
Thanks Roy for your excuses on my grammar and sentence structure perhaps it has to do with my being a dyslexic reader as a child or the fact my parents were foreigners one from england one from poland . But Ms Tory Bug but doesn't mean I am less smart than you. ( I might be more ) It is just the way I see words arranged .
I think we should leave people's writing skills or lack of out of it. I can pretty much figure out what you're saying, and agree or disagree with what I understand you to mean. It seems to me that the up-East intelligentsia and the entire press corps are too prone to equate erudition with wisdom anyway. Us midwesterners ought to take a more down-to-earth approach.
About Andrea's "facts":
Andrea says, "Banning books Palin asked librarian Mary Ellen Baker if she would be all right with censoring library books should she be asked to do so. Baker's reply was that she would definitely not be all right with it. (So she tried to right otherwise why ask ?If librarian had said yes she would have )"
This is a false characterization. Palin NEVER tried to ban any books (and liberals have even released phony lists of books Palin allegedly wanted banned. More liberal lies). Palin also never asked the librarian if she would be "alright with censoring library books." Palin asked the librarian "what her response would be" to a request to ban books. Palin said it was a hypothetical question about administrative policy. Snopes.com says the claim that Palin banned books is false. I don't think they are a right-wing spin organization. The spin is Andrea's.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/bannedbooks.asp
Andrea says, "As for cutting budget of special needs kids Palin vetoed $275,000 in funds for the Special Olympics Alaska."
This is a lie. Palin actually increased Special Olympic funding, just not as much as some lawmakers wanted. The alleged $275,000 "cut" is the difference between what the lawmakers wanted and what Palin approved. There was NO cut, just an increase.
http://www.newser.com/story/38693/wrong-lefties-palin-didnt-cut-special-olympics-dollars.html
Palin also increased overall funding for special needs children, contrary to the lies told by liberals that she slashed that funding.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Did_Sarah_Palin_cut_funding_to_children_with_special_needs_by_62_percent_while_she_was_Governor_of_Alaska_for_the_past_2_years
On sex education, Andrea's quote is right. Palin filled out a questionnaire in 2006 saying she would not support "explicit sex education." What Andrea leaves out is that in 2008, Palin said she supported both abstinence education AND contraceptiion education. Palin had also stated earlier that she supported contraception education.
http://www.alternet.org/sex/104411/sarah_palin_on_sex_ed/
And since Andrea agreed with me that Palin was not a member of a secessionist party….yes, I agree with, um, myself. But liberals still tried to push that lie off on the American people, along with all the other lies I mentioned.
For someone who claims to be interested in the truth, Andrea, you didn't write much of it. It was all mischaraterizations, distortions, and half-truths at best.
P. S.
As to 'our brilliant women' and 'those bitches', it.s not always just the left that acts like that. Some of us may have noticed that Hillary caught a lot of flak from Rush and the boys before she turned toward the middle of the road, which started the Democratic left sniping at her. Her sin seems to have been that she figured out that the American people are tired of the extremes of left and right.
Since King is talking about mischaracterizations….
With the banning books controversy: After Palin asked that question of the librarian…..she had her fired. That's a fact. The public outrage was so loud, Palin was forced to re-instate the librarian. I'm thinking that King left those facts out for a reason.
And….Palin lied, and wanted to continue to lie, during the campaign, over her husband's multiple year membership in the Alaska Independence Party. The McCain people had to smack her down over it…..she wanted to keep on telling the lie.
Palin also made a special video welcoming presentation in 2004 for the Independence Party convention…..she made no video for the Democratic Party's convention in her state.
Finally….the bridge to nowhere lie was a lie, and one of the worst she could have made. She tried to use the bridge not getting built to shore up her fiscal conservancy reputation….and at the same time, she took the money from the feds that would have been used to build that bridge. It's a cake and eat it too, situation.
This comment thread is indicative of one of the biggest problems in America today. We can't agree any longer on what the facts are. Not the interpretation of those facts…the facts themselves.
"This comment thread is indicative of one of the biggest problems in America today. We can't agree any longer on what the facts are. Not the interpretation of those facts…the facts themselves."
That's right Rev because the facts are given to us through filters and twists and spins and half truths, by govt and by the media. We are never given the whole story. Watch any of the news services, read any of the blogs, read any of the news papers. I have seen you quote a quote or describe an incident and stop the quote where it benefited your point. I am not picking on you because you are among the legions of writers that do this. But for us to be informed this has to stop. But it never will when people like George Soros or Karl Rove are manning the publicity helm. When bloggers have the power to lie, when rockstar talking heads have the power to lie, just making sh*t up to ruin a persons character. This isn't right and goes beyond free speech.
But I do criticize both sides. Come on…admit it.
If the librarian had said yes Sarah if you or someone else wants me to censor books I will. And you actually believe Sarah would have turned to her and said " no I was just asking, just for the heck of it … No real reason "
So you mean other lawmakers wanted to spend more than Palin on the special Education …hmmmm
But she the special education champ.
As for her teaching contraception well I rest my case with her daughter Bristol.
And her resigning because she a unselfish point guard . Please she is a quitter, a job the people of Alaska hired her to do for four years yet she found a way to make herself the hero of the story. Another lie , but if she vanishes out of public spot light and shuts her mouth maybe it wasnt a lie . Maybe finally she's doing something for the good of the country. Good riddance Sarah go become a sports caster .
Occasionally…..
Andrea, have you been afraid of Palin stating that she was going to a higher calling? Most lefties have worried about that. I have come to believe that she just may have decided that the best way to keep her children away from left handed crap like what Letterman suggested about Willow was to get out of the public eye. I seriously think that she will be back but not till her children are old enough to be more or less free from left handed crap like that one.
The woman is reported to have a contract for a book that calls for a seven figure income. Why let those left handed mongers dig at her children when she can make that kind of money.
Andrea, you of the left keep talking that quitter story as if it has to be true. At what point did the Glorious Leader back out of his promise to the people of Illinois. Why it was about the time he finished his second year of a 6 year term in the Senate. He began campaigning for President early in 2007 and wasn't seen in the Senate very many times and then only when his Democrat vote was badly needed. The man promised 6 years and gave about 2 and then was paid by the taxpayers of the US for nearly two full years for a job that he didn't perform. I thought he should have resigned from that job and let his governor appoint a replacement much sooner.
How about two of the most important people in his administration. Kathleen Sebelius and Janet Napolitano? Both women promised their people that they would serve the whole term and both quit after about 2 years of the 4 they were elected for. Oh my, I just thought of the highest ranking woman in The Man's administration. Didn't Hillary Clinton spend some time campaigning while being paid as a US Senator?
Yep, Palin said that she was costing the people of Alaska more money than she was worth to defend her from the false claims of the left. Honesty is something that you people don't see as anything a politician has much of but she seems to be very honest. All those ethics charges were silly and could only cause her trouble but weren't discrediting her as they wanted them to do. Now she has put the lefties in a bad position.
I hear she might pose for Playboy. Sweet!
Rev,
My original comment was that Palin didn't try to ban books. That comment stands. She didn't, and the left has been lying their butts off about it. You aren't going to drag me into defending statements I never made. Nice try.
Palin Derangement Syndrome is alive and kicking.
averagejoe5,
Better Tina Fey.
King sez………"Andrea says, "As for cutting budget of special needs kids Palin vetoed $275,000 in funds for the Special Olympics Alaska."
This is a lie."
Alaska governors have a line-item veto authority. Palin used this line-item veto authority to reduce funding for the Special Olympics from $550,000 to $275,000.
King, you owe Andrea an apology. Nice try tho republican propagandist and mis-informer.
Walt you are getting very good at Obamaspeak. You are lying and spinning the truth as are all of your lib brethren.
Alaska's congress added extra funds to the Special Olympics budget and as part of the budget approval Palen lined it out. That is not cutting. That is "not approving" an increase.
If you were told you may get a raise at work if it would fit in the budget and management said that since the economy has taken a downturn and they can't afford it right now, is that cutting your pay? No. Unless you use Obamanomics, which says that "we are cutting and balancing the budget next year but to do this we are going to increase the budget by 3 trillion dollars that we don't have." Or we are committed to creating or saving 300k jobs this year(immeasurable).Obama double speak. (When will they be saving these jobs after we lose 4 million more? I think congress bit off more than they could chew when they crashed the economy.)
I think she should cut programs like that. The govt gives alot of taxpayer money to those programs and it is eaten by administrative costs and doesn't benefit the athletes. We need to quit making bureaucrats rich or creating layers of management for programs that should be funded by the provate sector.
So King there is no need to apologize. Just lib liars twisting another story.
joe sez…."Alaska's congress added extra funds to the Special Olympics budget and as part of the budget approval Palen lined it out." Palin lining it out is called a line-item veto. Alaskan governors have line-item veto authority.
what part of that don't you understand?
cheese and rice man, can't you just admit you made a mistake and move on?
joe, you got more excuses than Heinz has pickles
walter,
If you would have read the material presented, you'd know that Palin increased the Special Olympics budget from $250,000 to $275,000. That's an increase, not a cut. She also increased overall funding for special needs kids pretty substantially.
The error is yours.
joe,
Sorry, I didn't read your comment before I posted my response to "conservative" Walter's disinformation. I didn't know you had already refuted him so thoroughly. Nice job.
King, you are simply dishonest. You said Andrea's statement about Palin vetoing $275,000 from the Special Olympics budget was a lie. That is NOT a lie….Palin used her line-item veto authority to cut the Special Olympics budget from $550,000 to $275,000.
Andrea's statement is correct….you owe her an apology
Like I said….we can no longer agree on the facts.
Colbert: "Facts have a known liberal bias."
walter, you sound like a parrot, saying the same thing over and over in spite of the facts. I'm not denying that Palin vetoed $275,000. She did. What I'm denying is that she CUT THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS BUDGET. She didn't. She INCREASED it. That was Andrea's distortion. She framed it as a budget cut when it wasn't
It would be like if you asked me if you could borrow $1000 from me, and I said no, I can only afford to lend you $100. Would you then contend that I had cheated you out of the other $900 ? Of course not (well, maybe YOU would, but a normal person wouldn't).
The only thing Palin did was not DOUBLE the Special Olympics budget. As a faux conservative, you should see the merit in that.
You owe me an apology. Several, in fact.
Just think, King, you posted the obligatory Palin post and it has blown up into a full fledged argument with all that simple minded arguing about whether she cut an amount or raised it. Of course, those from the LEFT (Andrea and Walter with of course, Rev Red) have stuck with their argument.
I was reading on a forum that has nearly 2000 posts about Palin, so many that any thread about Palin is just lumped in with the rest, and the libs got to arguing about whether the number of posts about Obama would outnumber hers if they were all lumped together. How silly is that? Obama started campaigning for President in January 2007 and Palin was unknown in the lower 48 till very late July of 2008. They worry about whether their hero has more posts than Palin. If that is not PDS, I sure don't know what it is.
roy,
I've never understood all the bile that Palin generates. I mean, what's the reason for it, other than she posed a temporary threat to the Messiah's ascendancy to the throne ? I don't agree with Palin on everything, but she seems like a refreshingly honest and forthright person to me. I don't believe anything most politicians say, but she seems more genuine than most.
2000 Palin posts, eh ? I wish I had more time to go to some of the other forums to read some of that stuff, but this one keeps me occupied.
the Alaska legislature passed a budget that had $550,000 for the Special Olympics. The passed bill was sent to Palin for her signature. Palin used her line-item veto authority to cut the $550,000 down to $275,000. This is what Andrea is talking about and you full well know it.
King, it is NOT a lie…..you are simply dis-honest
you owe Andrea an apology
King sez……." I'm not denying that Palin vetoed $275,000. She did. What I'm denying is that she CUT THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS BUDGET. She didn't. She INCREASED it. That was Andrea's distortion."
let's look at what Andrea really said…….."As for cutting budget of special needs kids Palin vetoed $275,000 in funds for the Special Olympics Alaska."
the Alaskan legislature passed a BUDGET with $550,000 for the Special Olympics. Palin cut that item of the budget by $275,000 with her line item veto authority. When something is cut from a budget, it's called a budget cut.
Clearly Andrea is talking about the BUDGET the Alaskan legislature had passed which contained the $550,000 for the Special Olympics.
There is NOTHING in Andrea's statement that suggests she is talking about anything else. You're just making stuff up.
If you are going to be that dis-honest, why stop at one year past….why not go back 12 years and point to how much more Special Olympics are recieving today under Palin than it did 12 years ago….or 20 years….or 50 years
You owe Andrea an apology
Polly want a cracker ?
King….just sayin'…….if you're going to use republican douchebaggery from newser make sure it fits the circumstance
I understand you can't give Andrea an apology after you have been proven wrong…….but that's how some people are raised nowadays
it really takes a person of character
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King….like I said…..it takes a big man to admit his mistakes
at least that's the way I was raised
Then go ahead, admit your mistakes.