If Walpin collects the 30 days pay and does end up being terminated……does he have to pay back the 30 days pay? Just asking.

King sez….."And I'm not a Republican." Now there's a whopper.

if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…..it's a duck

And I'm not a Republican.

Of course a title like that wouldn't have looked bad for the President. Really, isn't it the republicans (like yourself) whole intent is to make the President look bad?

In my original post, I said Obama complied with the law with his second explanation of Walpin's firing.

I was merely pointing out that you were wrong when you said Obama didn't have to give Walpin 30 days and cause in order to fire him. You were wrong.

President Obama Fires Controversial Inspector General
June 12, 2009 1:49 PM

With little public notice, President Obama Thursday fired the Inspector General of the Corporation for National and Community Service, Gerald Walpin.

Saying he was “exercising my power as president,” Mr. Obama suspended Walpin with pay, saying his termination would be “effective 30 days from now.”

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/06/president-obama-fires-controversial-inspector-general-.html

larry, King………happy now?

the White House submitted a letter to Senators Lieberman and Collins that now puts the White House in full compliance with the notice requirement in the law.

you saying McCatskill is wrong?

I also love how they keep talking about the "unanimous" board recommendation. It's two people.

"Requires the President, the heads of designated federal entities, the Librarian of Congress, the Capitol Police Board, and the Public Printer to communicate to Congress in writing the reasons for removing or transferring an IG no later than 30 days before such removal or transfer."

Yes, it takes 30 days to fire an IG for cause.

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-s2324/show

That's why it's different than Bush firing those U.S. Attorneys. Bush didn't need cause. Those attorneys served at his pleasure. He could replace them whenever he wished.

I NEVER said Walpin was senile. Obama NEVER said Walpin was senile. King quoted someone that said Walpin was senile but never sourced that quote. RR NEVER said Walpin was senile. I suggested it was medical. There are some drugs that I take that makes me lightheaded. I can see how it happens.

Are you telling me that if Walpin was e-mailing naked pictures of himself to young girls from a government computer Obama has to notify congress at least 30 days before firing him? That doesn't make sense…….well……there was Mark Foley and the cover-up by Boehner and Hastert

I'm saying Obama can fire Walpin and then notify congress

this is what Sen McCatskill said……"Last night, in response to my request for adequate information on the firing of Inspector General for the Corporation for National and Community Service Gerald Walpin, the White House submitted a letter to Senators Lieberman and Collins that now puts the White House in full compliance with the notice requirement in the law. The next step for Congress is to use the 30 days provided by the notice to seek further information and undertake any further review that might be necessary."

Finally Walter comes stomping in saying that the Congressional law that Obama was one of the most influential members pushing it to law doesn't say that he can't fire an inspector general without giving Congress 30 days notice. That is just exactly what that law says has to be done and we find that the firing took place on June 11 but the Congress wasn't informed of same until June 17. The law was violated and by Democrats at that.

These fools that talk about Bush and the lawyer people really haven't realized yet that that one was legal even if it was political and this one is purely political and illegal as it can be.

The number of stories that they have come up with since the 17th is very amazing to me but then that is how they do things. Tell a story and if is isn't accepted then tell another one until you finally get there.

Walter these words from the mediamatters thing that Rev Red slapped on us tell me that they think the man is senile. *** The Board's action was precipitated by a May 20, 2009 Board meeting at which Mr. Walpin was confused, disoriented, unable to answer questions and exhibited other behavior that led the Board to question his capacity to serve.***

Walt, I am 6 months away from being 77 and I think you may have trouble proving me senile but then I am not in a position to get one of Obama's buddies in trouble for misuse of public funds. It is very true that I don't like those non-profit organizations Obama has pushed and founded at least one of but then I just don't like having AmericaCorps deciding who wrote the best grant request.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2009/06/19/walpin/

"Last night, in response to my request for adequate information on the firing of Inspector General for the Corporation for National and Community Service Gerald Walpin, the White House submitted a letter to Senators Lieberman and Collins that now puts the White House in full compliance with the notice requirement in the law. The next step for Congress is to use the 30 days provided by the notice to seek further information and undertake any further review that might be necessary. The reasons given in the most recent White House letter are substantial and the decision to remove Walpin appears well founded."

larry, I'm not sure that you or King understand the firing process. Let's take an example……your truck driver comes in drunk. You fire him for coming to work drunk. Do you let him take the truck out to make his deliveries? No, you take him off the job.

Walpin has been fired and taken off the job. Congress has 30 days to review his firing. He doesn't get to stay on the job for that 30 days. You don't have to give congress thirty days notice BEFORE you fire them and get them off the job…..that makes absolutly no sense.

"humiliating themselves more and more each day with their trivialities and silliness. And don't forget the hypocrisy….Sen. Ensign won't."

In three short words at the end and you've painted yourself everything you're complaining about–trivial, silly and hypocritical. You've got a gift, Reverend.

What it is….is grasping for straws to bash with.

As far as this wingnut tantrum goes…..there really isn't anything to look at….move along.

Conservatives, though they can't see it, are humiliating themselves more and more each day with their trivialities and silliness. And don't forget the hypocrisy….Sen. Ensign won't.

"The second board member said that the board had unanimously directed its chair, Alan Solomont, to inform the White House of the board's serious concerns about Walpin's performance, and that Solomont had done so.

"No action would have been taken if the board had not, on a bipartisan basis, directed the chairman" to talk to the White House, said the second board member. The move was "entirely unanimous — no division at all."

As for what had caused the board's concerns in the first place, the second board member again echoed the first, saying that the board had had worries about Walpin since before the May 20 meeting, but called his performance at the meeting, "the capper."

At that meeting, said the second board member, Walpin made "ad hominem attacks on individuals that we thought were completely uncalled for." The second board member declined to elaborate on the nature of those attacks.

The second board member also referred to an investigation of the IG's office conducted by staff for CNCS's Equal Employment Opportunity unit, after a complaint. The second board member said that, according to the staffers conducting the probe, Walpin's response to the investigation had been "intimidating." The second board member claimed to be unaware of the nature of the original complaint."

Read first hand accounts here….http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/americorps_board_member_we_initiated_ig_firing.php?

with holding evidence is wrong….period. No ands, if or buts

I would tend to agree with you……there is only one way to answer your charges……open up Walpin's medical records.

Of course I wouldn't be for putting his medical records in public, but if there is any truth to Walpin being mentally unfocused at that one meeting, the proper response isn't to fire him, it's to have him examined by a doctor. It goes without saying that a person shouldn't be fired for getting sick. The reasons for Walpin's firing seem like nothing but cheap political subterfuge to me. That Walpin was outing Obama's cronies, and Obama and company didn't like it seems a lot more plausible.

he then sez……"that the "he's senile" cause cited by Obama is bogus."

where has anyone said "he's senile" as a cause for his dismissal?

I would agree it might be medical. But should (or could) we drag this guys medical records into full public view?

As for Walpin working from home, that is the deal he worked out with the government's approval. That alleged cause is also bogus. If the board had changed their minds about that, all they had to do was tell Walpin to come into the office more. That is no justification to fire him.

The CNCS board asked for a REVIEW of Walpin, and then Walpin was summarily fired (one hour to resign or be fired) without having a chance to face his critics or answer any of the allegations against him. The Reverend thinks this is just. I do not.

That stuff about Walpin "failing to disclose exculpatory evidence" is downright hilarious. St. Hope and Kevin Johnson had already been found to be guilty.

The complaint from the U.S. Attorney from California is also ridiculous. He's the VERY GUY who gave Kevin Johnson and St. Hope the sweetheart settlement that let them get off scott free for defrauding the taxpayers (and let them get MORE taxpayer dollars), the very guy Walpin was complaining about himself. If anyone's conduct should be reviewed, it should be that U.S. Attorney's.

As always, the Rev erects his gigantic double standard – if a GOPer does it, he's guilty as hell. If a Dem does it, no problem, nothing to see here.

It's also informative to hear that the Rev approves of the New Hitler Youth program that Obama intends to pursue – forced national service. That pretty much says it all. I guess, to paraphrase Kris Kristofferson, freedom soon will be just another word for nothing left to lose.