The other thing you never hear from the press is that the progressives were pretty impressed by the Russian Revolution back when it started. In the 20's, 30's, 40's, and even into the 50's, they thought communism was the great new way for the future. That's probably one reason the mass murders are downplayed.

Yes, the Nazis started out as leftists of sorts. The difference I think came when they compromised with establishment elements including the old aristocracy of Germany who initially supported them. From this point on they became not revolutionaries but reformists, and thus anathema to hard line revolutionaries.

Another big difference would seem be that Nazis generally paid for their crimes; not all perhaps, but most, and we still seem fixated on ferriting out toothless old geezers like Demjanjuk. The world has seen the piles of bodies at Auschwitz and Belsen.

Aside from the mass Polish grave attributed to the Soviets, the world is not generally familiar with Soviet atrocities, and the press has never seemed terribly interested in digging into it.

It's against the law in some nations to deny the Holocaust, but we have battalions of intellectuals who deny or grossly understate the the mass murders of Lenin, Stalin, Mao et al. There is or was a historian at Miami U who suggested that the murders attributed to Stalin were more likely in the thousands or ten thousands rather than millions.

It sort of seems to me that as a rule of thumb, if you want to know what the Left is up to, read the news of what they are accusing conservatives of.

I think the amount of coverage given to the two soldiers killed as opposed to the emphasis on the Doctor and the Security Guard tells us what kind of bias the overwhelming maajority of the press actuates.

After all the comments here, what I still don't understand is how far right ever became equated with fascist, socialist, or Nazi. I still maintain those are all far left ideologies. Under the Nazis, Hitler took control of German industry and told it what to produce. That isn't any kind of American right-wing philosophy I ever heard of. Right-wing philosophy maintains that industry remain in the private sector. Right-wing philosophy maintains free markets, not government directed markets like Hitler ran. Right-wing philosophy promotes limited government, just the opposite of what Hitler did.

One of the biggest reasons I'm against the creeping big government socialist policies is because they lead to authoritarian and totalitarian societies, by definition. Such societies are not right-wing. They are left-wing. Our own founding fathers, on the other hand, they had some right-wing ideas. Small government, low taxes, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, civil rights, etc….that's what I believe in. The last thing I want is for government to run my life for me.

I've cashed no social security checks, nor have I ever been on Medicaid. I'm not even forty years old, yet! My husband and I aren't counting on Social Security for our retirement. We know it won't be there. And can you please tell me WTF those programs have to do with the freakin' Nazis? I don't understand your logic. Do you, lol?

The short answer to that question is because they were/are.

It's true the natzi party had it's roots in the national socialist german party but the word socialist in their name wasn't and still isn't accurate.

The natzi party was actually anti-communist and anti liberal. They were even anti parliamentary government not to mention racists.

In the political spectrum your refering to if you go "far enough" to the right you reach authoritarian and then totalitarian, this is what the natzi party actually was/is.

As a matter of fact if you go far enough left you also get to a form of totalitarianism as well it comes full circle. But the fact that the nazti's were/are anti-liberal and anti-parliamentarian puts it squarely on the right hand side of the political spectrum. Albeit the extreme right.

Palin would be a much better president than Obama, by the way. That's why other Repubs are as afraid of her as lefties like you.

"How much money do those "far right nutcases" bring in? Who are they? Klan members? How many supporters do they bring in? What are you talking about? Did you just make all that up?"

Republicans are telling me on my teevee that Sarah Palin is probably not presidential material…..but she sure can raise money from the GOP base. She's as intellectually capable ("real Americans in real America") as a box of rocks AND she is the right's biggest "star."

Did you stop driving on American socialist highways yet?

Any problems with America's socialized national defense program?

Have you refused to cash any Social Secuirty checks? Has Medicare paid for any of your medical bills?

Are you boycotting socialized national parks?

Been picketing local socialized public schools lately?

If the answers are all "no's"…..maybe you could explain the obvious contradiction.

"13. We demand the nationalization of all trusts.

14. We demand profit-sharing in large industries.

15. We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions. "

That's not socialist in principle? Try reading them, http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/25points.htm. The points that aren't racist or insane come off remarkably… socialist.

I have no idea what Free Republic is. And so what if his allegiance went to the right? Does that make all conservatives nuts? Are you saying that every person who voted for Reagan or Bush as a potential killer? Man, the ladies at my Bible study had better watch their backs. It could be any one of us, lol.

As long as everybody else is calling one another extremists, but denying being one themselves, I might bring up that I received a msg from Moveon last summer asking me to help them defeat 'that fascist Hillary Clinton'.

Are you purposely trying to look like a fool, or is this just really the way you think?

Thanks for your response. I did not mean to imply that being "anti" makes a person a bigot. What I meant to say was that it is the actions that may accompany "anti" behavior. Over time we have seen this anti sentiment whip itself up into hateful acts. It is that manifestation that is wrong. I support people who have convictions both anti and pro on any debate. It is the basis of our democracy. What I don't support is vile anti sediment that leads to harm.

I also do not believe in illegal immigration. What I do believe in is that we must come to terms on how to humanely handle this issue. Is it ok for vigilantes to patrol our border and threaten families whose only crime is to search for food and a life for their children? I know we agree that this type of vigilantism is not right. Immigration is not an easy issue to tackle. I have no solution.

King, I do believe that Republicans have welcomed militant conservatives into their fold. If you look at our 2 party political systems, the Republican platform is definitely the conservative voice. The issues of abortion, same sex marriage, high taxes, and illegal immigration are ones that social conservatives have the most interest in. Along with the 95% of law abiding, peaceful citizens, there is that 5% of far right nutcases (and yes, the same applies to the 5% of far left nutcases on the Democratic side) that are welcomed into the fold. Let's face it; they have money and supporters to bring to the table. Our political parties love that money and voters. They just don't get turned away. It’s the don’t ask, don’t tell political policy.

I’ll end by saying, I believe we all must be aware of the impact our actions have in this world. Hateful actions only grow hate. It's important to us to know when and where to stop in debates and our actions. People have lost lives and wars have ensued for years because people just don't know when to stop and when to compromise.

Now….you conservatives can go on and on pointing the finger away from the political party you vote for regularly. It's called self-deception. Like Tom says…what you need to do is separate, once and for all, from the extremists the GOP has welcomed into the party in order to compete with Democrats.

I tried to give my GOP buddy, Ben Keeler, a roadmap forward for the GOP, …but alas, it wasn't to be. And I realize why the GOP can't do the right thing, breaking with the fanatical evangelicals and the cultural haters. The party would shrink drastically. But it's the only way forward.

The GOP, with it's FOX, Rush media devils leading the extremists forward, is coming apart at the seams before your very eyes. This is no time to defend a bunch of dangerous nuts.

Extremists can be found under any political persuasion, but you're going to have to provide me with some examples of "Republicans…welcoming…militant conservatives into their fold" before I will accept that.

Taking an act of a lunatic like Brunn and using it to smear an entire political philosophy, as Keith Olbermann did, is disgraceful.