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		<title>By: Josh in Nashville, TN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh in Nashville, TN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know a lot of people that bought their home with a stated mortgage and the majority are good and hard working people and without a no doc mortgage they very likely would not have been  capable of owning. This kind of mortgage options in my opinion are not all bad, they just need to be more strictly regulated and not coupled with zero down programs, but 10% to 20% or perhaps more money down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know a lot of people that bought their home with a stated mortgage and the majority are good and hard working people and without a no doc mortgage they very likely would not have been  capable of owning. This kind of mortgage options in my opinion are not all bad, they just need to be more strictly regulated and not coupled with zero down programs, but 10% to 20% or perhaps more money down.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh in Nashville, TN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh in Nashville, TN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 16:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know many that bought their home with a stated loan and the majority are good and hard working people and without a no doc mortgage they most likely would not have been able to buying. This kind of loan programs in my opinion have their place, they just need to be more tightly regulated and not coupled with no money down, but 10% to 20% or even more money down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know many that bought their home with a stated loan and the majority are good and hard working people and without a no doc mortgage they most likely would not have been able to buying. This kind of loan programs in my opinion have their place, they just need to be more tightly regulated and not coupled with no money down, but 10% to 20% or even more money down.</p>
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		<title>By: GTH</title>
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		<dc:creator>GTH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy, you seem fixated on Frank and Dodd while ignoring the fact that the gop had control of congress and all committees from 95 until 07. Why are you blaming these guys instead of looking at the republicans who were in control?  FYI, the dems did pass gse and mortgage reform including anti predatory when they took over in 07.

BTW, the original blog stating that deregulation had nothing to do with the crisis and that the cra is to blame is all false.
 Phil Gramm got swaps unregulated in 2000. It was slipped into the spending bill in December of that year without being debated.
Loans associated with the cra were conforming loans.  These are not subprime loan products. The default rate on these cra associated loans is below 9%.  Well over 80% of the risky subprime products were made by entities not associated with the cra.
The majority of risky subprime products were all developed in the 2000&#039;s. 

Bush did have his home ownership challenge.
Yes Clinton did too, but Clinton&#039;s goal was to raise the overall home ownership rate. Clinton raised the rate to a high , but sustainable level. Bush took it to a un-sustainable level and focused on minorities. His goal was 5.5 million new minority home owners and then raise it to 7 million after it became so successful. He  got the American Dream down payment law passed to help them. He tried to get zero down payments too.  He called on the private sector ( chase, countrywide, ameriquest and others) several times to meet his goals. While calling for gse reform, Bush raised their quotas and removed risky loans restrictions (subprime products) on them on 2004. Until then, the gses were barely involved in subprime products. Bit of a hypocrite, huh?

Funny thing, Bush&#039;s friend, ameriquest&#039;s founder Arnall ,was one of the first sub prime product  and predatory lenders. Bush thanked this guy for helping him by making him an US ambassador. 

All of this was to promote his agenda and revive/promote the economy which was in a recession when he took office.  His narrow focus and irresponsibility created the housing bubble. Chasing short term, unsustainable gains to revive the economy has cost this country dearly and a very big part of the blame falls on Bush.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy, you seem fixated on Frank and Dodd while ignoring the fact that the gop had control of congress and all committees from 95 until 07. Why are you blaming these guys instead of looking at the republicans who were in control?  FYI, the dems did pass gse and mortgage reform including anti predatory when they took over in 07.</p>
<p>BTW, the original blog stating that deregulation had nothing to do with the crisis and that the cra is to blame is all false.<br />
 Phil Gramm got swaps unregulated in 2000. It was slipped into the spending bill in December of that year without being debated.<br />
Loans associated with the cra were conforming loans.  These are not subprime loan products. The default rate on these cra associated loans is below 9%.  Well over 80% of the risky subprime products were made by entities not associated with the cra.<br />
The majority of risky subprime products were all developed in the 2000&#039;s. </p>
<p>Bush did have his home ownership challenge.<br />
Yes Clinton did too, but Clinton&#039;s goal was to raise the overall home ownership rate. Clinton raised the rate to a high , but sustainable level. Bush took it to a un-sustainable level and focused on minorities. His goal was 5.5 million new minority home owners and then raise it to 7 million after it became so successful. He  got the American Dream down payment law passed to help them. He tried to get zero down payments too.  He called on the private sector ( chase, countrywide, ameriquest and others) several times to meet his goals. While calling for gse reform, Bush raised their quotas and removed risky loans restrictions (subprime products) on them on 2004. Until then, the gses were barely involved in subprime products. Bit of a hypocrite, huh?</p>
<p>Funny thing, Bush&#039;s friend, ameriquest&#039;s founder Arnall ,was one of the first sub prime product  and predatory lenders. Bush thanked this guy for helping him by making him an US ambassador. </p>
<p>All of this was to promote his agenda and revive/promote the economy which was in a recession when he took office.  His narrow focus and irresponsibility created the housing bubble. Chasing short term, unsustainable gains to revive the economy has cost this country dearly and a very big part of the blame falls on Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 00:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth is that deregulated banks invented exciting new &quot;products&quot; to gamble on. The banks did this in order to fill their coffers with easy money. And then the giant poker game got out of hand…..and blew up in their faces. Wall Street banks produce nothing of value to America. Yeah, that&#039;s what I said.

Well, why weren&#039;t our great Mr. Frank and Mr Dodd raising concerns over this.  Maybe Mr. frank was too busy with his personal relationship with the head of Freddy Mac.  He was &quot;literally&quot; in bed with the guy.  Talk about a conflict of interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth is that deregulated banks invented exciting new &#034;products&#034; to gamble on. The banks did this in order to fill their coffers with easy money. And then the giant poker game got out of hand…..and blew up in their faces. Wall Street banks produce nothing of value to America. Yeah, that&#039;s what I said.</p>
<p>Well, why weren&#039;t our great Mr. Frank and Mr Dodd raising concerns over this.  Maybe Mr. frank was too busy with his personal relationship with the head of Freddy Mac.  He was &#034;literally&#034; in bed with the guy.  Talk about a conflict of interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 00:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reverend and Mike, you seem to forget the Congress was controlled by Democrats during Bush&#039;s last two years, specifically Barney Frank and Chris Dodd in charge of the Senate banking committee.  I do not remember either of them raising concerns about these lending practices.  Even though Bush &quot;was in charge&quot; as Mike puts it, the most he could have done is veto legislation brought forward by the democrats that tried stop these practices.  I don&#039;t recall any of this happening.  Likewise Bush could not &quot;pass everything he wanted&quot; as you state Mike.  Presidents don&#039;t make laws, Congress does, the president only signs them into law or vetoes them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reverend and Mike, you seem to forget the Congress was controlled by Democrats during Bush&#039;s last two years, specifically Barney Frank and Chris Dodd in charge of the Senate banking committee.  I do not remember either of them raising concerns about these lending practices.  Even though Bush &#034;was in charge&#034; as Mike puts it, the most he could have done is veto legislation brought forward by the democrats that tried stop these practices.  I don&#039;t recall any of this happening.  Likewise Bush could not &#034;pass everything he wanted&#034; as you state Mike.  Presidents don&#039;t make laws, Congress does, the president only signs them into law or vetoes them.</p>
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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>larry believes in fantasy when it comes to the financial collapse.

According to larry...banks were &quot;forced&quot; to take on risky loans. In this fantasy, banks had no other choice but to sell bets on mortgage derivatives because they were being &quot;forced&quot; to sell risky loans.

Pure fantasy.

The truth is that deregulated banks invented exciting new &quot;products&quot; to gamble on. The banks did this in order to fill their coffers with easy money. And then the giant poker game got out of hand.....and blew up in their faces. Wall Street banks produce nothing of value to America. Yeah, that&#039;s what I said.

Conservatives, whose only interest is in defending deregulated money shufflers, money schemers, and the free gambling market......defend these highly paid, Serious Professionals....even when they destroy the entire American economy. Conservatives hate the government....but they love the crooks in the private sector. Odd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>larry believes in fantasy when it comes to the financial collapse.</p>
<p>According to larry&#8230;banks were &#034;forced&#034; to take on risky loans. In this fantasy, banks had no other choice but to sell bets on mortgage derivatives because they were being &#034;forced&#034; to sell risky loans.</p>
<p>Pure fantasy.</p>
<p>The truth is that deregulated banks invented exciting new &#034;products&#034; to gamble on. The banks did this in order to fill their coffers with easy money. And then the giant poker game got out of hand&#8230;..and blew up in their faces. Wall Street banks produce nothing of value to America. Yeah, that&#039;s what I said.</p>
<p>Conservatives, whose only interest is in defending deregulated money shufflers, money schemers, and the free gambling market&#8230;&#8230;defend these highly paid, Serious Professionals&#8230;.even when they destroy the entire American economy. Conservatives hate the government&#8230;.but they love the crooks in the private sector. Odd.</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 17:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is all a republican excuse to cover bush...

Canada saw it and stopped it, Bush tried to cover himself by making a blurb once in a speech.

Bush had the power to stop this real estate crash but he didn&#039;t.

I believe he was too dumb to see the crash or greedy?  

Bush passed everything he wanted.  They made a feeble attempt to rein it in and then quickly gave up saying &quot;ownership is great!&quot; go for it.

Bush could give a rats arse what Barney Frank said, he laughed at Barney Frank.

He was the president, he was the man in charge.

I love how hard core republicans can simply pass off responsibility.  They talk about how a person should be responsible for his own mess and then they simply look for Bush&#039;s scapegoats and start pointing fingers elsewhere.

They lie to themselves, this is Bush&#039;s fault we are in this huge debt.  He could have easily reigned this in but he didn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all a republican excuse to cover bush&#8230;</p>
<p>Canada saw it and stopped it, Bush tried to cover himself by making a blurb once in a speech.</p>
<p>Bush had the power to stop this real estate crash but he didn&#039;t.</p>
<p>I believe he was too dumb to see the crash or greedy?  </p>
<p>Bush passed everything he wanted.  They made a feeble attempt to rein it in and then quickly gave up saying &#034;ownership is great!&#034; go for it.</p>
<p>Bush could give a rats arse what Barney Frank said, he laughed at Barney Frank.</p>
<p>He was the president, he was the man in charge.</p>
<p>I love how hard core republicans can simply pass off responsibility.  They talk about how a person should be responsible for his own mess and then they simply look for Bush&#039;s scapegoats and start pointing fingers elsewhere.</p>
<p>They lie to themselves, this is Bush&#039;s fault we are in this huge debt.  He could have easily reigned this in but he didn&#039;t.</p>
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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 00:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When a bank is forced to take on a toxic asset such as a mortgage it knows won&#039;t be repaid, it will have to pass on that asset in order to survive, and whoever buys it will be forced to do the same. The creation of creative financial instruments was inevitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When a bank is forced to take on a toxic asset such as a mortgage it knows won&#039;t be repaid, it will have to pass on that asset in order to survive, and whoever buys it will be forced to do the same. The creation of creative financial instruments was inevitable.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 22:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your right about it beginning with a homeowner push by Clinton.  However, the 80&#039;s was when Congress changed the securities regulations allowing mortgage swaps.  This was never a financial instrument until then.

Then Clinton and the Dems pushed for more home ownership.  But it didn&#039;t really take off until Bush&#039;s administration and the non-belief in Gov&#039;t oversight.  Unwatched capitalism.  The Clinton push to more ownership could be responsible for the subprime mtg problem.

And the Bush adm could be responsible for the much larger mtg problem.  Walstreet is the real blame and no one else.

Walstreet got congress to change the laws allowing mtgs to become financial instruments.  Walstreet facilitated the buying and selling of these products.   I won&#039;t go into detail for it would be a short book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your right about it beginning with a homeowner push by Clinton.  However, the 80&#039;s was when Congress changed the securities regulations allowing mortgage swaps.  This was never a financial instrument until then.</p>
<p>Then Clinton and the Dems pushed for more home ownership.  But it didn&#039;t really take off until Bush&#039;s administration and the non-belief in Gov&#039;t oversight.  Unwatched capitalism.  The Clinton push to more ownership could be responsible for the subprime mtg problem.</p>
<p>And the Bush adm could be responsible for the much larger mtg problem.  Walstreet is the real blame and no one else.</p>
<p>Walstreet got congress to change the laws allowing mtgs to become financial instruments.  Walstreet facilitated the buying and selling of these products.   I won&#039;t go into detail for it would be a short book.</p>
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		<title>By: Da King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Da King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 19:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the post I was commenting on, Tom.

Did someone pee in your Wheaties or something ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#039;s the post I was commenting on, Tom.</p>
<p>Did someone pee in your Wheaties or something ?</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Da King obviously didn&#039;t read my January 15th, 2009 / 4:12 pm post.

Maybe you should take another month off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Da King obviously didn&#039;t read my January 15th, 2009 / 4:12 pm post.</p>
<p>Maybe you should take another month off.</p>
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		<title>By: Da King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Da King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Roy, 
Don&#039;t forget about Bush&#039;s wind machine that caused Hurricane Katrina, or how Bush built those subpar levees in New Orleans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roy,<br />
Don&#039;t forget about Bush&#039;s wind machine that caused Hurricane Katrina, or how Bush built those subpar levees in New Orleans.</p>
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		<title>By: Da King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Da King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom, 
Yeah, it was really the wealthy people who defaulted on their mortgage loans. We don&#039;t need any loan standards at all. Let&#039;s just keep on being PC and not worry our pretty little heads about financial matters. It&#039;s worked out so well up to now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,<br />
Yeah, it was really the wealthy people who defaulted on their mortgage loans. We don&#039;t need any loan standards at all. Let&#039;s just keep on being PC and not worry our pretty little heads about financial matters. It&#039;s worked out so well up to now.</p>
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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 13:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bush also started global warming. He&#039;s the most productive president in our nation&#039;s history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush also started global warming. He&#039;s the most productive president in our nation&#039;s history.</p>
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		<title>By: roysoldboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>roysoldboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 06:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>***ARM&#039;s, interest only loans, sub-prime loans, no money down speculative loans, no appraisal loans, no income verification loans, bundling mortgages as securities, trading (gambling) those securities, creating and selling non-regulated &quot;credit default swaps&quot; as insurance for those securities that no one knew the value of, radically high leverage gambling on Wall Street…..and on and on. That&#039;s what caused the crisis. None of it has been corrected. None of it***

Rev, was Bush actually responsible for all those things?  How did he find time to deal with all that along with the war in Iraq, the terrorists constantly plotting to destroy something else big in the US and all the crap that people like you continually put out.  I don&#039;t think that even your hero, Bubba Clinton could have done all that, even in 8 years.  Most, if not all, those things must have been done before Bush came along.  Yep, I think they were.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***ARM&#039;s, interest only loans, sub-prime loans, no money down speculative loans, no appraisal loans, no income verification loans, bundling mortgages as securities, trading (gambling) those securities, creating and selling non-regulated &#034;credit default swaps&#034; as insurance for those securities that no one knew the value of, radically high leverage gambling on Wall Street…..and on and on. That&#039;s what caused the crisis. None of it has been corrected. None of it***</p>
<p>Rev, was Bush actually responsible for all those things?  How did he find time to deal with all that along with the war in Iraq, the terrorists constantly plotting to destroy something else big in the US and all the crap that people like you continually put out.  I don&#039;t think that even your hero, Bubba Clinton could have done all that, even in 8 years.  Most, if not all, those things must have been done before Bush came along.  Yep, I think they were.</p>
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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 22:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not lending to minorities and risky people. It&#039;s forcing banks to make &#039;creative loans&#039; available to anybody, as Maxine Waters likes to call them. 

But I&#039;m shocked a black academic would play that failed old race card on PBS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#039;s not lending to minorities and risky people. It&#039;s forcing banks to make &#039;creative loans&#039; available to anybody, as Maxine Waters likes to call them. </p>
<p>But I&#039;m shocked a black academic would play that failed old race card on PBS.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 20:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Community Reinvestment Act critique = 21st Century &quot;Willie Hortonization&quot; of the credit collapse.  

Read Emma Jordan&#039;s second paragraph!

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10032008/transcript2.html

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LARRY KUDLOW (tape):It&#039;s time for the Congress, Republicans and Democrats, to stop encouraging, exhorting, and forcing banks to make low income loans with no documentation. Stop that. The community reinvestment act which was passed in the mid nineties, which was extended in the early 2000s, literally pushed these lenders to make low income loans.

BILL MOYERS:Lending to minorities and risky people. Do you see this, are they seeing this as issues of race and class?

EMMA COLEMAN JORDAN:Absolutely. And it&#039;s a cynical manipulation. It&#039;s reprehensible. And, in the worse tradition of Lee Atwater, and the-

BILL MOYERS:Lee Atwater.

EMMA COLEMAN JORDAN:-Willie Horton ad, to use race as a wedge issue to make people who pay their mortgages believe that the people who are getting the benefit of the 700 billion dollars, that we&#039;re being asked to pay, are poor, minority people who caused the crisis. 

This is unconscionable. This problem is not a problem that was caused by the Community Reinvestment Act. The data is very clear that the Community Reinvestment Act loans were being offered in a way to people that were much more responsible and had none of the characteristics of default that are being attributed in this discussion. And what this does is to say, this problem is a problem that was caused by black people. 

And it means that it gives an opportunity to bring up that old wedge. But I think the people in the country are smarter today. I just don&#039;t think it&#039;s going to fly. I think that people understand that the enemy is not a person who got a home loan and was tricked into getting that loan by a fast-talking broker who originated the loan but that the problem was the securitization process, the high leveraging that Wall Street was doing, the lack of regulation. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Community Reinvestment Act critique = 21st Century &#034;Willie Hortonization&#034; of the credit collapse.  </p>
<p>Read Emma Jordan&#039;s second paragraph!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10032008/transcript2.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/10032008/transcript2.html</a></p>
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LARRY KUDLOW (tape):It&#039;s time for the Congress, Republicans and Democrats, to stop encouraging, exhorting, and forcing banks to make low income loans with no documentation. Stop that. The community reinvestment act which was passed in the mid nineties, which was extended in the early 2000s, literally pushed these lenders to make low income loans.</p>
<p>BILL MOYERS:Lending to minorities and risky people. Do you see this, are they seeing this as issues of race and class?</p>
<p>EMMA COLEMAN JORDAN:Absolutely. And it&#039;s a cynical manipulation. It&#039;s reprehensible. And, in the worse tradition of Lee Atwater, and the-</p>
<p>BILL MOYERS:Lee Atwater.</p>
<p>EMMA COLEMAN JORDAN:-Willie Horton ad, to use race as a wedge issue to make people who pay their mortgages believe that the people who are getting the benefit of the 700 billion dollars, that we&#039;re being asked to pay, are poor, minority people who caused the crisis. </p>
<p>This is unconscionable. This problem is not a problem that was caused by the Community Reinvestment Act. The data is very clear that the Community Reinvestment Act loans were being offered in a way to people that were much more responsible and had none of the characteristics of default that are being attributed in this discussion. And what this does is to say, this problem is a problem that was caused by black people. </p>
<p>And it means that it gives an opportunity to bring up that old wedge. But I think the people in the country are smarter today. I just don&#039;t think it&#039;s going to fly. I think that people understand that the enemy is not a person who got a home loan and was tricked into getting that loan by a fast-talking broker who originated the loan but that the problem was the securitization process, the high leveraging that Wall Street was doing, the lack of regulation.<br />
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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No....and....no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No&#8230;.and&#8230;.no.</p>
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		<title>By: Da King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Da King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the Clinton update of the Community Reinvestment Act is precisely what created the environment for the housing speculation bubble and the sub-prime crisis, by allowing investment banks into an arena that only commercial banks played in before. That&#039;s when Wall Street went wild, and that&#039;s why all the major investment banks no longer exist or changed their charters. 

Btw, the Clinton update was originally proposed by some Republicans, so you should get on board with criticizing it. It&#039;s not like you to miss an opportunity to blame the GOP for something. You don&#039;t need to deny reality in this area. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the Clinton update of the Community Reinvestment Act is precisely what created the environment for the housing speculation bubble and the sub-prime crisis, by allowing investment banks into an arena that only commercial banks played in before. That&#039;s when Wall Street went wild, and that&#039;s why all the major investment banks no longer exist or changed their charters. </p>
<p>Btw, the Clinton update was originally proposed by some Republicans, so you should get on board with criticizing it. It&#039;s not like you to miss an opportunity to blame the GOP for something. You don&#039;t need to deny reality in this area.</p>
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		<title>By: Da King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Da King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev, 
After all your standard name-calling, you finally got around to something substantive in your last paragraph. 

&quot;ARM&#039;s, interest only loans, sub-prime loans, no money down speculative loans, no appraisal loans, no income verification loans, bundling mortgages as securities, trading (gambling) those securities, creating and selling non-regulated &quot;credit default swaps&quot; as insurance for those securities that no one knew the value of, radically high leverage gambling on Wall Street…..and on and on. That&#039;s what caused the crisis. None of it has been corrected. None of it.&quot;

I agree with pretty much all of that, but then you deny the very reason all those things came into existence (almost all prior to Bush, btw), along with the reason that none of it has been corrected - because to reverse them would severely LIMIT MORTGAGE LOANS TO THOSE WITH LOW INCOMES, which nearly all Democrats and many Republicans see as non-PC. You&#039;re looking at the effect without examining the cause. Put another way, increasing home ownership among the poor is the forest. Those practices you cited are the trees. It takes a willful act of denial not to acknowledge that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev,<br />
After all your standard name-calling, you finally got around to something substantive in your last paragraph. </p>
<p>&#034;ARM&#039;s, interest only loans, sub-prime loans, no money down speculative loans, no appraisal loans, no income verification loans, bundling mortgages as securities, trading (gambling) those securities, creating and selling non-regulated &#034;credit default swaps&#034; as insurance for those securities that no one knew the value of, radically high leverage gambling on Wall Street…..and on and on. That&#039;s what caused the crisis. None of it has been corrected. None of it.&#034;</p>
<p>I agree with pretty much all of that, but then you deny the very reason all those things came into existence (almost all prior to Bush, btw), along with the reason that none of it has been corrected &#8211; because to reverse them would severely LIMIT MORTGAGE LOANS TO THOSE WITH LOW INCOMES, which nearly all Democrats and many Republicans see as non-PC. You&#039;re looking at the effect without examining the cause. Put another way, increasing home ownership among the poor is the forest. Those practices you cited are the trees. It takes a willful act of denial not to acknowledge that.</p>
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		<title>By: Da King</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/da_kings_men/2009/01/14/bush-deregulation-caused-it-all/comment-page-1/#comment-5595</link>
		<dc:creator>Da King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big Mac, 
Is this a trick question ? I don&#039;t think I can really answer sufficiently.

I&#039;d like regulation over both the financial and environmental areas in general, but we have to insure the regulations don&#039;t cause more problems than they prevent. When it comes to finances, there are certain regulations that make sense, like reserve requirements, and there are others that wouldn&#039;t. I wouldn&#039;t want the federal government to mandate how much money people in private industry can make, for instance. That&#039;s none of the government&#039;s business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big Mac,<br />
Is this a trick question ? I don&#039;t think I can really answer sufficiently.</p>
<p>I&#039;d like regulation over both the financial and environmental areas in general, but we have to insure the regulations don&#039;t cause more problems than they prevent. When it comes to finances, there are certain regulations that make sense, like reserve requirements, and there are others that wouldn&#039;t. I wouldn&#039;t want the federal government to mandate how much money people in private industry can make, for instance. That&#039;s none of the government&#039;s business.</p>
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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/da_kings_men/2009/01/14/bush-deregulation-caused-it-all/comment-page-1/#comment-5594</link>
		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry King.....the blog emperor has no clothes.

The arch-conservative supply side deregulation Oracle, himself, said he made a terrible mistake in judgment in believing that financial professionals could be trusted to do the right thing.

You want to argue that Greenspan was wrong about that statement?

Tunnel-visioned economic conservatives simply jettison any truth about what actually created the crisis. 

You are wrong....Freddy and Fannie, as all conservative experts agree, played a part, but didn&#039;t create the crisis. The Community Reinvestment Act diversion is even more dishonest. And while there are thousands of regulations in place, radical extremists like Bush-Cheney made sure through employment choices that nothing much was actually regulated .....as any sentient being can see for themselves with the SEC.

No, Bush isn&#039;t totally responsible.....he&#039;s just the last conservative economic nut who was left guarding the economy by permitting an environment of greed-gone-wild and scout&#039;s honor professionals to recklessly gamble it all away.

ARM&#039;s, interest only loans, sub-prime loans, no money down speculative loans, no appraisal loans, no income verification loans, bundling mortgages as securities, trading (gambling) those securities, creating and selling non-regulated &quot;credit default swaps&quot; as insurance for those securities that no one knew the value of, radically high leverage gambling on Wall Street.....and on and on. That&#039;s what caused the crisis. None of it has been corrected. None of it.

Now put some clothes back on and blog the truth...will ya&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m sorry King&#8230;..the blog emperor has no clothes.</p>
<p>The arch-conservative supply side deregulation Oracle, himself, said he made a terrible mistake in judgment in believing that financial professionals could be trusted to do the right thing.</p>
<p>You want to argue that Greenspan was wrong about that statement?</p>
<p>Tunnel-visioned economic conservatives simply jettison any truth about what actually created the crisis. </p>
<p>You are wrong&#8230;.Freddy and Fannie, as all conservative experts agree, played a part, but didn&#039;t create the crisis. The Community Reinvestment Act diversion is even more dishonest. And while there are thousands of regulations in place, radical extremists like Bush-Cheney made sure through employment choices that nothing much was actually regulated &#8230;..as any sentient being can see for themselves with the SEC.</p>
<p>No, Bush isn&#039;t totally responsible&#8230;..he&#039;s just the last conservative economic nut who was left guarding the economy by permitting an environment of greed-gone-wild and scout&#039;s honor professionals to recklessly gamble it all away.</p>
<p>ARM&#039;s, interest only loans, sub-prime loans, no money down speculative loans, no appraisal loans, no income verification loans, bundling mortgages as securities, trading (gambling) those securities, creating and selling non-regulated &#034;credit default swaps&#034; as insurance for those securities that no one knew the value of, radically high leverage gambling on Wall Street&#8230;..and on and on. That&#039;s what caused the crisis. None of it has been corrected. None of it.</p>
<p>Now put some clothes back on and blog the truth&#8230;will ya&#039;?</p>
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		<title>By: Da King</title>
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		<dc:creator>Da King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But larry, it&#039;s so much simpler just to name-call. It frees one from the burden of thought. One time the Rev came up with something about Bush loweing the SEC debt ratio requirements, but that was pretty weak, and it also happened after the financial horse was out of the barn, so to speak. Other than that, I&#039;ve heard zip from the usual crowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But larry, it&#039;s so much simpler just to name-call. It frees one from the burden of thought. One time the Rev came up with something about Bush loweing the SEC debt ratio requirements, but that was pretty weak, and it also happened after the financial horse was out of the barn, so to speak. Other than that, I&#039;ve heard zip from the usual crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which would you prefer financial deregulation, environmental deregulation or misc. deregulation?</description>
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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d think someone would list some of the deregulation stuff Bush pushed through to disprove this wingnut post, King.</description>
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