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Bill Clinton Blames Dems For Mortgage Crisis

by Da King on October 1, 2008

in Democrats, GOP, Uncategorized, congress, credit crisis, housing, media bias, political correctness, presidential race

braying jackass

The Chairman of the Senate Banking Committee, Chris Dodd (D-CT), has NO idea how the mortgage crisis happened. I repeat, he is the CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE BANKING COMMITTEE !!! Dodd says, "American taxpayers are angry and they demand to know how we arrived at this moment."

Well, Mr. Dodd, as CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATE BANKING COMMITTEE, you know damned well how the mortgage crisis happened, and the truth is slowly coming out. The mortgage crisis was created by Democrats like Chris Dodd, who repeatedly blocked regulation. Even former Democratic president Bill Clinton knows that, though I'm surprised he is admitting it. I'm always shocked when a Democrat tells the truth. It's a rare occurence. Most Dems are stonewalling for all they are worth. Here's President Clinton being interviewed on ABC:

CHRIS CUOMO, ABC NEWS: A little surprising for you to hear the Democrats saying, "This came out of nowhere, this is all about the Republicans. We had nothing to do with this." Nancy Pelosi saying it. She signed the '99 Gramm Bill. She knew what was going on with the SEC. They're all sophisticated people. Is that playing politics in this situation?

BILL CLINTON: Well, maybe everybody does that a little bit [lie, he means. Yes, the Dems certainly do that. Constantly]. I think the responsibility the Democrats have may rest more in resisting any efforts by Republicans in the Congress or by me when I was President to put some standards and tighten up a little on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Gosh, that sure doesn't square with the contention by Democrats and the pro-Obama mainstream media, who are so certain that it was those Bush deregulation policies of the last 8 years that caused the problem (a curious hypothesis, since the Bush administration didn't propose any deregulation of the financial industry during the last 8 years. The GOP only proposed REGULATION of the financial industry, and the Dems shot it down, every time).

The following exchange on Fox News sums up nicely how the mortgage crisis happened.

JIM ANGLE, CHIEF WASHINGTON CORRESPONDENT: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, backed by the federal government, buy mortgage loans from the lenders who make them. But four years ago, both were in trouble over shoddy accounting. Fannie Mae Chief Franklin Raines, President Clinton's former budget director, was fired. To placate those in Congress who watched over them, Fannie and Freddie promised to do more to help poor people get mortgages. That led them to buy riskier and riskier home loans from private lenders creating incentives for everyone to make shakier loans.

PETER WALLISON, AMERICAN ENTERPRISE INSTITUTE: The problem is that they encouraged very bad mortgages to be made by banks and other institutions, because Fannie and Freddie would buy them.

ANGLE: Eventually, they bought trillions of dollars worth of mortgages, a substantial portion of them based on poor credit, then resold many of them to financial institutions who thought they were safe because the federal government was behind them.

PETER WALLISON, AMERICAN ENTERPRISE INSTITUTE: As a result of this appearance that they were backed by the government, people never paid very much attention to the assets they were acquiring or the risks they were taking.

ANGLE: And so shaky mortgages spread throughout the system. But in 2005, the Senate Banking Committee, then chaired by Republican Richard Shelby, tried to rein in the two organizations bypassing some strong new regulations.

WALLISON: Which would have prevented Fannie and Freddie from acquiring this bad — these bad mortgages. It actually gave a new regulator for Fannie and Freddie the kinds of powers that a bank regulator had.

ANGLE: All the Republicans voted for it. All the Democrats, including the current chairman, Senator Chris Dodd, voted against it, and that was after Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan had issued a stark warning to senators that Fannie and Freddie were playing with fire. Greenspan said without stronger regulations, "We increase the possibility of insolvency and crisis. Without restrictions on the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, we put at risk our ability to preserve safe and sound financial markets in the United States."

Guess how Democrats responded to the "strong new regulations" of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac that Senator Shelby and other Republicans proposed ? They claimed everything over at Fannie and Freddie was just fine and dandy, they attacked the regulators, and they called Republicans racists for proposing the regulation, like they always do with any GOP legislation they don't like. Political correctness over sound policy, that's the Dem mantra. In the interests of fairness, some House Republicans also opposed the regulations, though the vast majority were for it. Virtually ALL Democrats opposed it, and that's why the regulations died.

When Barney Frank (D-MA) became the incoming Chairman of the House Financial Services Committee after the Dems won Congress in 2006, he said this at the National Press Club on December 11, 2006:

Now let me turn to housing — we have more to do yet in the deregulation. I’m just saying that one of the things that we did was to try and reduce the reporting requirement from the banks to the financial detectives. And far too much has to be reported now, in my judgment, of a routine nature. And the metaphor that I use is that we have told the law enforcement people to find a bunch of needles, and then we have set about building them a very big haystack. And we ought to thin that down so they can do a better job. One of the things that I want to stress to my liberal friends is that excessive regulation or ineffective regulation is bad for regulation. Regulation is very important. The market does need some corrections, but if you overdo it, then you weaken your case.

Yet, the Dems claim Bush was the deregulator of the mortgage industry. NOT. Barney Frank was against every attempt by Republicans to regulate Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, as was Chris Dodd, as was Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) over in the House, as were virtually all Democrats. Remember this when the lying scumbags try to blame this all on the Republicans. The Democrats protected Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac at every turn, and now we are all left holding that big bag of crap.

And guess who received the second most campaign contributions from Fannie and Freddie ? Mister Hope and Change himself, Barack Obama. Number one is Chris Dodd. They say if you want to know the truth about something, follow the money. Yes, indeed. That's all you have to do here.

Here's another interesting quote from Barney Frank, made in 2003 during Senate hearings about regulations of Fannie and Freddie that the Bush administration was calling for:

Some of the critics of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac say that the problem is is the federal government is obligated to bail-out people who might lose money in connection with them. I do not believe that we have any such obligation. And as we said that it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy based on people. So let me make it clear: I’m a strong supporter of the role that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac play in housing. But nobody who invested in them should come looking to me for a nickel, nor anybody else in the federal government.

Think of this when you hear Mr. Fwank making jokes about how the GOP killed the bailout deal the other day, and about how Fwank says the GOP put their hurt feelings above the good of the country. Fwank is full of it. He wouldn't tell the truth now to save his life, but he sure as heck will lie to save his job. Read many of Barney Fwank's statements about Fannie-Freddie here. It's enlightening.

{ 20 comments… read them below or add one }

The Reverend October 1, 2008 at 1:17 pm

When Democrat bashers seek to ……bash Democrats….they are extremely selective, as King is here in his Fanny and Freddy screed.

Without apologizing for F & F and Democrats, who received much campaign cash from said institutions….I must say in response that F & F are only a snapshot of the larger picture.

The authentic problem, as opposed to one simply grasped at for partisan purposes, came about in December of 2000 in a budget funding bill which could not be vetoed. Investment banks were spared any oversight….and mortgage sellers could move their paper however they desired….catalyzing the bundling, buying, selling and gambling on…mortgage backed securities.

In addition, Alan Greenspan lowered prime rates so many times and to such a low figure…..Americans couldn't resist borrowing. Add to that the fact that Greenspan, no liberal, cheerled for sub-prime junk and trick ARM's…..you know, using the GOP mantra of "more choices".

Overarching all of this F & F misdirection, yet unmentioned in King's post, is the indisputable fact that the Republican political party is the party of deregulation and an unfettered marketplace free from oversight. Republicans belong to the party of Reagan. McCain is proud of his membership in Reagan's army. Ronnie spoke clearly and unequivocally about government oversight and/or regulation…he was against it. Reagan told us that government was the problem, not the solution…for anything.

Now those Reagan chickens are roosting, obscenely disfigured by Bush-Cheney, but still recognizable as Republican deregulation chickens, just the same.

Ghost of Vince Foster October 1, 2008 at 1:30 pm

Good Lord, Slick Willy Clinton is actually telling the truth.

This just goes to show how far the Clintons are willing to go to sink B. Hussein Obama's candadicy.

mRed October 1, 2008 at 1:50 pm

"In addition, Alan Greenspan lowered prime rates so many times and to such a low figure…..Americans couldn't resist borrowing."

Mommy, he made me do it. He made me. I didn't mean to, but he made me. So don't blame me! Blame him, he made me do it.

da truth October 1, 2008 at 8:55 pm

Two points:

1). It's interesting to me that conservatives bring up a man they despise, Bill Clinton, when it suits them (like here and at their very own convention). As Rev said, nice selective memory.

2). Nice try, King, on blaming this all on the D's. You know it isn't that simple………

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/who_caused_the_economic_crisis.html

The truth is, as the article states, two of the main culprits are the Clinton and Bush administrations. So my guess is this is Clinton trying to avoid his share of the blame. The most interesting point the article makes in rebuttal to your post, King:

"But saying that Democrats killed the 2005 bill "while Mr. Obama was notably silent" oversimplifies things considerably. The bill made it out of committee in the Senate but was never brought up for consideration. At that time, Republicans had a majority in the Senate and controlled the agenda. Democrats never got the chance to vote against it or to mount a filibuster to block it."

Which brings up another point: interesting that during the 6 years of unfettered power conservatives had they were able to do eveything they wanted except this. And, stop abortion, privatize Social Security, make flag burning illegal, put prayer back into schools………and of course, be fiscally responsible. You know, all those things they always claim they are gonna do……….

da truth October 1, 2008 at 8:58 pm

Also, Vince is right. The Clintons can barely stand to choke out a "support Obama" even today. Obama should watch his back prior to the election. If he wins, he should go into hiding until January…….

Da King October 2, 2008 at 6:54 am

Rev,
I'll repeat this challenge, which to date you have left unanswered. If Bush deregulation policy is to blame for the mortgage crisis, tell me what deregulation policies Bush foisted off on us that caused the crisis. Until that time, you cannot be taken seriously. All I could find Bush doing during his tenure is REGULATION of the financial industry (Sarbanes-Oxley, the attempt to regulate Fannie-Freddie).

That 2000 bill Clinton signed into law, which you say could not be vetoed, passed the Senate by a wide bipartisan margin, by a vote of 90-8. That means Dems were on board, a fact you conveniently ignore. Plus, Clinton didn't want to veto it. Clinton celebrated it's passage. You left that out too. Also, the bill did NOT say the investment banks were subject to no regulation. You're just making that up. It only allowed the investment banks into areas only commercial banks were allowed in previously.

I'm not a Democrat basher. I have nothing against Democrats, per se. I only criticize the people I disagree with. Those usually happen to be Democrats. If you've noticed, and apparently you haven't, I've bashed Bush plenty for running up the deficits and debt, and for adding to the unfunded entitlement liability. I guess I'm a Republican basher too.

And trying to say Fannie-Freddie isn't the main culprit in the mortgage crisis, when Fannie-Freddie facilitated the entire mortgage securities feeding frenzy, is simply dumb. Fannie-Freddie was the driver. Deregulation assisted (Community Reinvestment Act, Gramm-Leach-Bliley), but as I've already pointed out, and you again choose to ignore, that was bipartisan in nature, if not driven by Dems, as the CRA was.

In summary, you are ignoring every single facet of the mortgage crisis that is inconsistent with your burning need to blame it all on Bush. Bush has plenty to answer for during his presidency, but your favorite whipping boy didn't give us this problem. It was mainly the Democrats. So, please stop your Olbermannic nonsense.

Da King October 2, 2008 at 7:14 am

da truth,
I noticed the first thing factcheck.org did was to blow the claims of the Dems out of the water.

It's true that the McCain sponsored bill didn't get a full vote. It was killed by a voice vote. I've already posted about that. I've even posted links to the discussion of the bill on the floor of Congress, which makes it clear that the Democrats were in lockstep against it. Factcheck.org left that out for some reason. They should revisit their facts. Yes, the GOP had the majority, and there were a few Republicans who opposed it, but the Dems were almost UNANIMOUSLY against it. That's why it was defeated. The majority in Congress can't just do anything it wants, especially when it's a slim majority. We just witnessed that in the defeat of the bailout in the House. The majority Dems voted for it, but it was still defeated. It usually takes some measure of bipartisan support to get a significant bill passed. You proved that yourself when you pointed to SS reform, which was killed by the minority Democrats.

I've been focusing on the share of the mortgage crisis blame that has to do with the government, and everything I've been able to uncover tells me the Dems were the ones blocking regulation, not the GOP, in direct contradiction to the claims of Obama, Pelosi, Reid, and all the other screeching bs'ers. If I'm going to blame Bush for anything, it would be that he didn't scream loud enough about the impending crisis. He signed legislation, he proposed other regulation, he warned of the Fannie-Freddie problem, but he should have kept shouting it from the rooftops, even though Dems would have called him an alarmist and a racist for doing so.

larry d. October 2, 2008 at 10:36 am

Does anyone else think factcheck.org would be more worthwhile if it actually stuck to the facts?

The Reverend October 2, 2008 at 11:24 am

King:

I've already pointed out that Bush's SEC people increased leverage ratios dramatically. From 12:1 to 30:1. That's no little deal. All that did was make an already top-heavy mess..more top-heavy.

Again….the larger picture is where the answers are found.

The larger picture is one comprised of deregulating Republicans. Ever since Reagan. "Government is the problem" Reagan. Phil Gramm saw government as the problem in commodity trading and mortgage selling. Phil Gramm was simply channeling Reagan. Bush stood to the side in acceptance.

Now…and only now…after finding out that the unregulated, unfettered free market has created the problem….is government looked to for the answer.

Modern economic conservatism is officially dead. I know that in winger blogsites, it will still exist, even if it's only in zombie form. Conservatives rarely, if ever, accept blame….or in McCain's case…recognize reality.

da truth October 2, 2008 at 12:26 pm

"Modern economic conservatism is officially dead. I know that in winger blogsites, it will still exist, even if it's only in zombie form. Conservatives rarely, if ever, accept blame….or in McCain's case…recognize reality."

Amen, brother. You nailed it exactly. And again, I wouldl like to thank da king and his men. Even factchecking isn't good enough for them.

Ghost of Vince Foster October 2, 2008 at 1:23 pm

One of the more disgusting things about this affirmative action financing mess is to see Barney Frank involved in the bailout plan.

The man, an unabashed pervert, personally played a significant role in creating the mess by defending Fanny and Freddy from regulators even to the point of having one of his homosexual lovers in a high administrative post in one of those institutions.

America truly is sick.

ben keeler October 2, 2008 at 2:04 pm

People like Chris Dodd are allowed to chair committees forever as Democrats. The GOP has term limits on chairmanships, while the Democrats do not. That is why people like Chris Dodd dont care…as long as the Dems control the Senate, he will be chairman.

larry d. October 3, 2008 at 12:28 pm

If da King is going to debunk Biden's fibs like he did for Obama after the presidential debate, we might not hear from him for a few days–it's going to be quite a list.

The Reverend October 3, 2008 at 2:10 pm

Gotta love the wingnuts.

Deregulation didn't cause the disaster we're now facing….no…not at all. It's them damn Negroes and Gays. Those two groups are ruining the entire country….oh, yeah….and those criminal Hispanics.

Can Ghosts see themselves, like,….in mirrors and so forth?

Chris October 3, 2008 at 7:10 pm

Shocker, from the Rev his argument gets blown out of the water so he goes to old failthful and brings up racism and homophobia. I would love it for once if a dem could actually make an argument without resorting to invoking some type of bigotry.

larry d. October 3, 2008 at 7:35 pm

What deregulation legislation caused it Reverend?

Ghost of Vince Foster October 4, 2008 at 6:55 am

Fact – Barney Frank is a pervert.

Fact – Barny Frank played a major role in the mortgage industry meltdown

Fact – the mortgage mess was indeed affirmative action financing.

Fact – many illegal aliens got subprime loans with little to no question asked.

Fact – the middle class will have to pay to clean up the mess the Dims have created.

Fact — this $700 billion bailout is only a stopgap measure.

Da King October 7, 2008 at 3:08 am

larry,
Factcheck.org consists of seven people, most of them in their twenties. I applaud what they try to do, but even the head of factcheck.org admits that they make mistakes, that they don't always have all the facts.

Da King October 7, 2008 at 3:31 am

Rev,
I asked you for an example of Bush deregulation which led to the mortgage crisis, and once again you did not provide any examples.

You mentioned the increase of SEC leveraging rules that took place in 2004, but that was not deregulation. Those SEC rules were implemented to increase regulation and oversight of the securities companies, which prior to that were not regulated at all.

http://www.nysun.com/business/ex-sec-official-blames-agency-for-blow-up/86130/

I agree the less strict SEC capital requirements helped to bury the investment banks quicker once the market went south, but they don't explain why banks all across the country handed out risky mortgages to unqualified persons, which is the root of the crisis. For that, you have to look mostly at the Democrats.

You might as well admit it, you got nothing, moonbat. Bush only tried to REGULATE the mortgage industry, as I said previously.

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