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Obama vs. McCain On Health Care

by Da King on August 4, 2008

in health care,presidential race,Uncategorized

ambulance

The main problem with America's health care system isn't too difficult to determine. The problem is, health care is way too expensive. It's so expensive that many people can't afford it. It's so expensive that many people forego health care insurance. As an example, a friend of mine recently went to see a specialist to diagnose his back injury. That office visit cost $765. He then had two MRI's at a cost of $4500. The total cost was $5265 just for my friend to receive a diagnosis of his back injury (a fracture). No treatment of his injury was included for that price. This is just one tiny example of the insanely high costs associated with health care in this country. Here are some numbers about the high cost of health care from the non-partisan National Coalition On Health Care:

In 2007, total national health expenditures were expected to rise 6.9 percent — two times the rate of inflation. Total spending was $2.3 TRILLION in 2007, or $7600 per person. Total health care spending represented 16 percent of the gross domestic product (GDP). U.S. health care spending is expected to increase at similar levels for the next decade reaching $4.2 TRILLION in 2016, or 20 percent of GDP. In 2007, employer health insurance premiums increased by 6.1 percent – two times the rate of inflation. The annual premium for an employer health plan covering a family of four averaged nearly $12,100. The annual premium for single coverage averaged over $4,400.2

Keep this in mind as we compare the health care plans of Democrat Barack Obama and Republican John McCain. I'd take it as a given that any health care plan that doesn't attempt to reign in these crazily high costs will ultimately collapse under it's own weight, and is therefore a bad plan for America.

The Obama and McCain health care plans are pretty much polar opposites. Obama's is centered around government control and McCain's is centered on free markets. Here's how the Cato Institute summarized the respective plans:

Senator Obama’s approach relies heavily on government mandates, regulations, and subsidies. He would mandate that employers provide health care coverage for their workers and that parents purchase health insurance for their children. He would significantly increase regulation of the insurance industry, establishing a standard minimum benefits package, and requiring insurers to accept all applicants regardless of their health. He would offer a variety of new and expanded subsidies to middle- and low-income Americans. [Link to Obama's website for details on his health care plan]

In contrast, John McCain emphasizes consumer choice and greater competition in the health care industry. He would move away from our current employment-based insurance system by replacing the current tax exclusion for employer-provided insurance with a refundable tax credit for individuals. At the same time he would sharply deregulate the insurance industry to increase competition. [Link to McCain's website for details on his health care plan]

HEALTH CARE COST REDUCTION: Both Obama and McCain make a claim for cost control in their health care plans.

Obama promises to modernize the heath care system to save money. After reading from his website several of the methods he'll use (integrate care, monitor providers, preventive care, catastrophic illness subsidization, cost transparency, electronic technology), I'm unconvinced they will reduce the cost of health care at all. It's as if Obama thinks he can micromanage the entire private health care industry, which is definitely beyond his grasp. He also promises to subsidize those who cannot afford insurance and calls that cost control, when it isn't. Subsidization is just another word for taxation. That is cost redistribution, not cost reduction. When I look at Obama's plan from a cost control standpoint, I see many new government mandates and regulations on health care providers and insuerers, and those invariably increase costs, not lower them. Where Obama's health care plan CAN reduce costs is through government intervention in the marketplace, through directly mandated lower costs. The Obama plan proposes to limit the amount of profit insurance companies can make, requiring them to funnel 'excess' profits into lower patient premiums. 'Excess' profit remains undefined by Obama (has anyone else noticed that liberals are attempting to gradually outlaw business profits ? Creep, creep, creep). Obama also proposes to lower prescription drug prices by allowing drugs to be purchased at lower prices in Canada and overseas (look kids ! a market-based reform ! This one would probably work. Yippee !…but what about FDA approval on those foreign drugs ?), and he would also allow the government to 'negotiate' with drug companies.

John McCain's health care plan would provide greater competition between insurance companies by allowing those companies to compete for business nationwide, instead of on a state-by-state basis. Like Obama, McCain would allow re-importation of drugs, greater use of generic drugs, coordinated care, prevention measures, new medical infrastructure, transparency, and technology. McCain wants to make Medicare more efficient. He also wants to pass tort reform to stop lawsuits against doctors who follow clinical guidelines and follow safety protocols. The heart of McCain's health care reform, however, is direct refundable tax credits for health care. Individuals would receive a $2500 tax credit, families a $5000 tax credit, to offset the high costs of insurance. This helps offset the cost of insurance to Americans without involving the iron hand of government, which I love, but it doesn't lower the costs of health care. Also, if you remember how much health insurance costs on the average ($4400 individual, $12000 family of four), McCain's health care credits don't cover it all, they just make coverage cheaper.

In the end, neither Obama's nor McCain's plan will probably alleviate the massive costs of health care significantly, though each could have some cost reduction effects. My buddy's back problem would still cost a bundle just for a diagnosis. Obama's plan would go further toward insuring the uninsured, though it won't achieve nor mandate universal coverage. Obama recently said that illegal immigrants would not be covered under his plan. Illegals make up a significant portion of those 47 million uninsured in America. Obama's plan will cost the taxpayers a bundle, while McCain's plan will save the taxpayers a bundle (but offset by what spending cuts, Johnny ? We can't keep running deficits, and you also promised to balance the budget). I'd prefer to save taxpayers a bundle, so I like McCain's approach better than Obama's. Obama's approach would be a giant step toward socialized medicine, which is tanking in Canada and Europe. It results in rationed care and long waits for treatment, and ends with the government telling you what medical procedures you can and can't have. And if you think lobbying and influence peddling is bad now, wait until the government controls such a huge chunk of our economy as health care. It'll be corruption city. No thanks. Obama's plan would also be very burdensome for small businesses and even large businesses, whom Obama would penalize if they didn't provide health care insurance coverage for their employees. McCain's plan allows for business growth, especially small business growth, by transferring the ever increasing health care burden away from business. That is a very big deal economically. McCain's plan will provide a tangential economic stimulus that would result in rising wages, lower prices, or lower unemployment. Obama's provides an economic damper that would result in lower wages, higher prices, and higher unemployment.

Verdict: McCain's plan is far from perfect, and it won't solve the uninsured problem (though it'll reduce it), but Obama's Big Brother, Big Tax, Big Spend approach scares the bejesus out of an old rumrunner like myself. Them dad-burned revenooers. Git the buckshot, Cletus. There has to be a better way.

  • The Reverend

    I'm trying to give you credit for at least attempting to compare both candidate's positions….

    This…

    "Obama's is centered around government control and McCain's is centered on free markets."

    Government intervention would be more accurate. But noticeable by it's absence is the non-debatable fact that it is the free market which has brought us to where we are. Isn't that true?

    Isn't it true that health insurers have had the freedom to turn away risky customers? Isn't it true that while health care costs are rising faster than inflation, that a good portion of profits from these same providers go to huge CEO salaries, shareholder dividends and enormous advertising budgets. And isn't it also true that all of that contributes to the high rates we all pay?

    When you say that McCain's plan will be a stimulus for business and will then result in higher wages, etc. for workers….are you serious? McCain's plan would cost my family over $7K more per year out of pocket than I'm paying now. Not to mention the fact that millions of Americans would be dropped from coverage who are currently covered.

    One big problem is the uninsured. McCain would add millions to the already 47 million. And the employer's savings from dropping coverage has a snowball's chance of ever finding it's way into an employee's paycheck.

    McCain's health plan is really only more of the same.

    We need change. McCain, I'm sorry, does not offer change at all.

  • frank

    Mr. King,
    I've gone through something similar to your friend recently. I have what is considered excellent health insurance. When the pain in my back became more than the usual stiffness, etc., I contacted my doctor for an appointment. Although I knew I needed an orthopedic specialist, I also knew that my insurance would require a referral from my doctor. I waited three weeks to see my doctor who then decided that since I hadn't seen him in over a year, a physical was called for. He then referred me to an imaging company for a MRI. I waited another three weeks for their appointment. A week after the MRI, my doctor referred me to the orthopedic specialist who also had a three week wait for an appointment. Upon my visit there, I was X-rayed and the specialist confirmed what I already knew, I was suffering from a pinched sciatic nerve. He gave me the choice of spinal fusion surgery or cortisone shots. I chose the latter and waited a month before I could have them. This reduced the pain to a manageable level.
    During this 4 month escapade, I spent perhaps 5 hours at the various facilities and saw doctors for a total of about 2 hours. Fortunately, my insurance paid for most of the exorbitant costs.
    However, one reason for these costs is that each doctor must pay for malpractice insurance. Another is the insurance mandated path I had to follow, and various tests required to substantiate what common sense would dictate. These costs were then negotiated downward by the insurance company.
    All in all, the cost was paid by my employer and indirectly by me. It is, and has been for years, the major reason why employers would rather work their employees overtime than hire more.
    Insurance companies make money on both sides of the equation. They typically make 20% profit on premiums whether it is for the doctor's malpractice coverage, or the patient's coverage. Their major means of increasing profit is denial of coverage. It is these circumstances which maximizes costs and minimizes service.
    Neither candidate's plan addresses these issues. Perhaps it is time to no longer think of health care as a commodity, subject to the vagaries of the economy.

  • Michael L. Wagner

    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink…

    …In this day-and-age, you'd have a terrible time of it trying to lead the country to Universal Heath Care (Nationalized Health)–if one considers the vast sums of money involved…, …perhaps this is why the new Electronic Voting Machines are so easily tampered with…

    How about how the Compact-Fluorescent light bulbs CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS!!!

    Read: Mercury leaks found as new bulbs break (The Boston Globe).

    …Isn't the real deal how, nowadays, the Tobacco Companies are allowed to put cyanide in cigarettes…

    DUH!!!

    …How about a Universal Health System where you would have to shell-out 25 bucks to see the doctor…, insofar as this would keep people from going to the doctor for every little thing…

    …It's funny(?) how easily it is to sway public perception on this issue (people are afraid of any kind of Nationalization–though the Canadians have done it), yet–especially with the Drug Companies–National Security demands it!!!

  • Aaron

    King,

    I think you missed a big negative of McCain's plan – people can't afford to pay 5k-12k in health care costs in order to get a bigger tax refund in January, especially those at minimum wage.

    I agree that Obama's plan would require massive government spending, with no clear plan to refill those coffers. The other drawback is that I don't see how any single insurance company would be able (or willing) to stay in business when forced to take on any client at a pre-set cost. So there are hundreds of companies that will close, with those jobs lost. It would certainly further the goal of creating a government health care corporation.

    But this all begs the question – is the problem with the funding system, or with the final product? I would venture to say that if costs can be reduced in the final product, and the government intervenes to push a gradual reduction in coverage prices to insurance companies, this can be a win-win situation. The biggest problem is of course how to reduce those prices.

    Malpractice insurance is massive, doctors are not covered under the same 'good samaritan' laws protecting a common citizen. No doubt gross negligence does occur from time to time, but government litigation protection would go farther to reduce health care costs than a tax refund ever could.

    Negotiated costs for HMOs are ridiculous. The 'cost' of health care is grossly inflated, as I can have simple procedures that 'cost' $10,000, but the hospital settles with my HMO for $1,500. What is the true cost of those procedures at that point? Hospitals all have to balance a budget, as well as fairly compensate persons who have paid into the education system for 10 more years than the rest of us, but they certainly should never need to charge an uninsured citizen full price for care.

    I believe government intervention is necessary here, but instead of dealing with the consumer citizen, deal with the source of the costs.

  • Da King

    Rev says, "When you say that McCain's plan will be a stimulus for business and will then result in higher wages, etc. for workers….are you serious? McCain's plan would cost my family over $7K more per year out of pocket than I'm paying now. Not to mention the fact that millions of Americans would be dropped from coverage who are currently covered."

    Yes, I'm totally serious. McCain's health care plan says that employer covered health care would remain an option, so if your employer is currently picking up your health care tab, it won't cost you anything, because you wouldn't have to change anything.

    But let's assume for the sake of argument that you went with McCain's $5000 tax deduction instead. I'm assuming you think you'd have to pay $7000 more under McCain's plan because your $12000 yearly insurance bill less McCain's deduction would stick you with a $7000 bill. But would it really ? Are you going to just accept a $7,000 pay cut ? Your compensation as an employee doesn't consist solely of your hourly or salaried wage. It also consists of your benefits. They are all part of your cost to your employer as an employee. The employer really doesn't care what form your compensation takes. Therefore, in order to be fair, if your employer was saving $7000 because you are using McCain's deduction, then your employer would INCREASE YOUR WAGES.

    Now let's consider a new small business that has, say, 20 employees. Let's say that business doesn't have to pay health insurance for those employees anymore. The employees can purchase their own with McCain's plan. We'll say half the employees are single and half are married. Using $4,400 as the single health insurance rate and $12,000 as the married rate, that would save the employer $164,000 per year (actually a lot more with the elimination of all the paperwork and administrative costs), which would allow the business to do one of the following things – pay higher wages, hire more workers, have lower prices, or make more profits. That is the economic stimulus I was referring to. Obama's plan has the exact opposite economic deadening effect, by definition.

    Not that McCain's plan is anywhere near perfect. I didn't say that.

  • Da King

    Aaron,
    I basically agree with you. The shortfall of McCain's plan is that it won't solve the problem of people without insurance, which is one of the big issues. Health insurance will still be unaffordable for some of the working poor who are barely getting by, as you stated. Something more than what McCain proposed IS needed, but I run scared from Obama's big government iron boot plan.

    A possible solution is for businesses to have the option of paying the insurance premiums for the working poor, so the poorer employees won't have to shell anything out. Then the businesses would get the rebates from the government. This would still leave business responsible for health care insurance, but lessen the cost. Just a thought.

  • Da King

    I almost forgot, Rev. You said, "noticeable by it's absence is the non-debatable fact that it is the free market which has brought us to where we are. Isn't that true?"

    No, that is not true. We don't have anything close to a free market in health care. At least 40% is directly controlled by the government (Medicare/Medicaid). Prescription drugs are heavily controlled and restricted by the government (FDA and others). Other government mandates have driven prices through the roof and clamped down on medicinal alternatives. Fear of the judicial arm of government has driven malpractice insurance through the roof. We haven't had anything even close to free market health care since at least the very early 1960's, when, not coincidentally, health care was far more affordable and doctors made house calls.

    So, after government has screwed our health care system up SO badly, what do Democrats call for as the solution ? Why, MORE GOVERNMENT, of course. They always cast the blame all over everyone but themselves.

    Calling health care a result of the free market is like calling high oil prices the result of the free market, when oil is controlled by a cartel (OPEC) that can manipulate the market at it's whim. A virtual monopoly isn't much of a free market either. While the Dems are stupidly blaming Exxon and the other oil companies, OPEC is the reason for 70% of the price of gasoline, the oil companies part is only 17% for shipping and refining, and 13% goes to the government.

    But I'm getting off the subject. Over and out.

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