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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/da_kings_men/2008/06/06/the-judgement-thing/#comment-3679</link>
		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Reverend. Two thirds of ABJ blog readers think you just got smoked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Reverend. Two thirds of ABJ blog readers think you just got smoked.</p>
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		<title>By: Da King</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/da_kings_men/2008/06/06/the-judgement-thing/#comment-3675</link>
		<dc:creator>Da King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rev, 
I assume you were having a off-day with your responses. I could have rebutted myself better than you did. 

1) Sorry to disappoint you, but I'm not of white appalachian descent. I'm of German-Irish descent. I also know racist speech when I hear it, and Rev. Wright engaged in racist speech, repeatedly. Obama sat and listened for 20 years. You lose.

2) Your defense is that Ayers was never committed of a crime ? Earth to Rev - AYERS ADMITS HIS CRIMES. Big Duh, Rev.

3) If you agree that Obama said his Rezko deal was boneheaded, then you also agree with me that Obama was naive. Thanks. You got one right.

4). "There is no military solution in Iraq". WRONG. The correct statement would be "there HAS to be a military solution in Iraq before a political solution can take hold". But thanks for pointing out that Obama "governs" by polls. You lose again.

5) Obama has waffled on Iran, which is what I said.

6) It's way naive to think Iran will change their ways just because Obama talks to them.

7) In what make-believe world is reversing the Bush tax cuts, lifing the SS payroll cap, and doubling the capital gains tax NOT a tax increase. Plus, Obama has proposed more government spending increases than I have room to list here. You lose again, Rev. You aren't even close.

8) I covered this in #7, but you shouldn't call Charles Gibson names just because he made your hero look like the economic neophyte that he is. It's juvenile, but I'll respond on your level just this once: Obama is a caca-doody-head. 

9) Obama isn't going to do squat about NAFTA. You know it. I know it. Obama knows it. Stop the madness.

10) Being a "sane american", I'd like to reduce nuclear weapons too. However, since I'm not a "naive pollyannish american", I know Iran can't be trusted. Obama is nuts.

Better luck next time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rev,<br />
I assume you were having a off-day with your responses. I could have rebutted myself better than you did. </p>
<p>1) Sorry to disappoint you, but I&#039;m not of white appalachian descent. I&#039;m of German-Irish descent. I also know racist speech when I hear it, and Rev. Wright engaged in racist speech, repeatedly. Obama sat and listened for 20 years. You lose.</p>
<p>2) Your defense is that Ayers was never committed of a crime ? Earth to Rev - AYERS ADMITS HIS CRIMES. Big Duh, Rev.</p>
<p>3) If you agree that Obama said his Rezko deal was boneheaded, then you also agree with me that Obama was naive. Thanks. You got one right.</p>
<p>4). &#034;There is no military solution in Iraq&#034;. WRONG. The correct statement would be &#034;there HAS to be a military solution in Iraq before a political solution can take hold&#034;. But thanks for pointing out that Obama &#034;governs&#034; by polls. You lose again.</p>
<p>5) Obama has waffled on Iran, which is what I said.</p>
<p>6) It&#039;s way naive to think Iran will change their ways just because Obama talks to them.</p>
<p>7) In what make-believe world is reversing the Bush tax cuts, lifing the SS payroll cap, and doubling the capital gains tax NOT a tax increase. Plus, Obama has proposed more government spending increases than I have room to list here. You lose again, Rev. You aren&#039;t even close.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/da_kings_men/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif' alt='8)' class='wp-smiley' /> I covered this in #7, but you shouldn&#039;t call Charles Gibson names just because he made your hero look like the economic neophyte that he is. It&#039;s juvenile, but I&#039;ll respond on your level just this once: Obama is a caca-doody-head. </p>
<p>9) Obama isn&#039;t going to do squat about NAFTA. You know it. I know it. Obama knows it. Stop the madness.</p>
<p>10) Being a &#034;sane american&#034;, I&#039;d like to reduce nuclear weapons too. However, since I&#039;m not a &#034;naive pollyannish american&#034;, I know Iran can&#039;t be trusted. Obama is nuts.</p>
<p>Better luck next time.</p>
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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/da_kings_men/2008/06/06/the-judgement-thing/#comment-3666</link>
		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>8-Obama's disagreement over capital gains rates that he had with the dipstick, Gibson, was over fairness. Secretaries having to pay almost twice the rate as their millionaire hedge fund trader bosses...for some reason....isn't considered fair by most Americans.

9-The NAFTA stuff was Obama's attempt at saying he's for the displaced workers that resulted from the agreement....and he will seek to replace those jobs, not bring them back.

10-It would probably be a good idea for ALL countries to stop the production of new fissile material. Sane Americans are for this.

Finally....your stretch over microscopic details of military manuevers and platoons and all....naturally....misses the important point Obama was making. Bush's Iraq crime has hurt America in our fight of al-Qa'ida by taking away necessary assets from Pakistan and ill-equipping our soldiers fighting there. As has been said many times...taking our eye off of al-Qa'ida to go and occpy Iraq was a colossal mistake. Obama was pointing that out.

Doesn't leave you with much of anything but ashes. I smoked all of your judgment calls.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>8-Obama&#039;s disagreement over capital gains rates that he had with the dipstick, Gibson, was over fairness. Secretaries having to pay almost twice the rate as their millionaire hedge fund trader bosses&#8230;for some reason&#8230;.isn&#039;t considered fair by most Americans.</p>
<p>9-The NAFTA stuff was Obama&#039;s attempt at saying he&#039;s for the displaced workers that resulted from the agreement&#8230;.and he will seek to replace those jobs, not bring them back.</p>
<p>10-It would probably be a good idea for ALL countries to stop the production of new fissile material. Sane Americans are for this.</p>
<p>Finally&#8230;.your stretch over microscopic details of military manuevers and platoons and all&#8230;.naturally&#8230;.misses the important point Obama was making. Bush&#039;s Iraq crime has hurt America in our fight of al-Qa&#039;ida by taking away necessary assets from Pakistan and ill-equipping our soldiers fighting there. As has been said many times&#8230;taking our eye off of al-Qa&#039;ida to go and occpy Iraq was a colossal mistake. Obama was pointing that out.</p>
<p>Doesn&#039;t leave you with much of anything but ashes. I smoked all of your judgment calls.</p>
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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/da_kings_men/2008/06/06/the-judgement-thing/#comment-3665</link>
		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>5-Obama has stated clearly that BECAUSE America is strong, our president should boldly talk to any nation's leader. This has long been, contrary to being considered confused, considered strong American presidential leadership in the mold of Kennedy and even Reagan.

6-Obama believes as long as you're talking, people are not being killed. Long held American tradition. What he believes is that, by talking and listening, each side at least knows where they stand....and incentives and disincentives can be customized to help the situation. Without talking, you have nothing.

7-Simply mistaken. Obama has stated where the money will come from to pay for much of what he's laying down. So your caricature is simply mistaken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5-Obama has stated clearly that BECAUSE America is strong, our president should boldly talk to any nation&#039;s leader. This has long been, contrary to being considered confused, considered strong American presidential leadership in the mold of Kennedy and even Reagan.</p>
<p>6-Obama believes as long as you&#039;re talking, people are not being killed. Long held American tradition. What he believes is that, by talking and listening, each side at least knows where they stand&#8230;.and incentives and disincentives can be customized to help the situation. Without talking, you have nothing.</p>
<p>7-Simply mistaken. Obama has stated where the money will come from to pay for much of what he&#039;s laying down. So your caricature is simply mistaken.</p>
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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/da_kings_men/2008/06/06/the-judgement-thing/#comment-3664</link>
		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2-Ayers is a college educator...never convicted of any terrorism crime.

3-Obama said his real estate transactions over a vacant lot he wished to buy a small slice of adjacent to his side yard was "boneheaded" because Rezko did, as you say, purchase the lot and then sold a portion to Obama....but nothing illegal or below board was done here. Nothing.

4-The American people, by 2-1 want to pull the troops out. Judgment....democratic. And...there is no military solution to Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2-Ayers is a college educator&#8230;never convicted of any terrorism crime.</p>
<p>3-Obama said his real estate transactions over a vacant lot he wished to buy a small slice of adjacent to his side yard was &#034;boneheaded&#034; because Rezko did, as you say, purchase the lot and then sold a portion to Obama&#8230;.but nothing illegal or below board was done here. Nothing.</p>
<p>4-The American people, by 2-1 want to pull the troops out. Judgment&#8230;.democratic. And&#8230;there is no military solution to Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: The Reverend</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/da_kings_men/2008/06/06/the-judgement-thing/#comment-3663</link>
		<dc:creator>The Reverend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, extremely weak tea....if it isn't just a steaming cup of nothing.

1-Obama's pastor is not a crazy anti-American racist. That may be your interpretation, and that would be predictable. White Appalachian-rooted men and women, being isolated into their cells of culture as they are, were no doubt shocked over the theatrics of Wright...but then those white don't get out amongst 'em much. Most of what Wright said can't be rebutted. Obama was led to Chrsit by Wright. When Wright led Obama to Christ, Wright didn't insert a Wright clone chip into Obama's head. The only judgment issue here is the judgment of those who would seek to smear and guilt by association.

I mean you don't care that Phil Gramm still being McCain's campaign co-chair, for crying out loud. You think McCain's judgement is perfectly fine about Gramm....and Gramm is doing McCain's thinking for him, you know like Gramm had put a chip in McCain's head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, extremely weak tea&#8230;.if it isn&#039;t just a steaming cup of nothing.</p>
<p>1-Obama&#039;s pastor is not a crazy anti-American racist. That may be your interpretation, and that would be predictable. White Appalachian-rooted men and women, being isolated into their cells of culture as they are, were no doubt shocked over the theatrics of Wright&#8230;but then those white don&#039;t get out amongst &#039;em much. Most of what Wright said can&#039;t be rebutted. Obama was led to Chrsit by Wright. When Wright led Obama to Christ, Wright didn&#039;t insert a Wright clone chip into Obama&#039;s head. The only judgment issue here is the judgment of those who would seek to smear and guilt by association.</p>
<p>I mean you don&#039;t care that Phil Gramm still being McCain&#039;s campaign co-chair, for crying out loud. You think McCain&#039;s judgement is perfectly fine about Gramm&#8230;.and Gramm is doing McCain&#039;s thinking for him, you know like Gramm had put a chip in McCain&#039;s head.</p>
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		<title>By: roysoldboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>roysoldboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did you hope to be divisive with so much truth included in the article?  I would say that you told way too much about the man and what he has turned out to be, but a little finger pointing at him may well be a good thing considering the amount of finger pointing he does all the time.

Now that old Barry is the real Dem nominee and has to get after McCain I look for a lot more finger pointing without a lot of backing.  I just listened to Charlie Rangel explaining why Obama would be so much better than McCain.  About all Charlie had to say was that he isn't Bush and McCain really is just another Bush.  He glibly explained how the country has suffered with Bush but never mentioned the amount of "good" legislation the Congress has sent to Bush the past 17 months.  I guess what they do isn't important to Rangel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did you hope to be divisive with so much truth included in the article?  I would say that you told way too much about the man and what he has turned out to be, but a little finger pointing at him may well be a good thing considering the amount of finger pointing he does all the time.</p>
<p>Now that old Barry is the real Dem nominee and has to get after McCain I look for a lot more finger pointing without a lot of backing.  I just listened to Charlie Rangel explaining why Obama would be so much better than McCain.  About all Charlie had to say was that he isn&#039;t Bush and McCain really is just another Bush.  He glibly explained how the country has suffered with Bush but never mentioned the amount of &#034;good&#034; legislation the Congress has sent to Bush the past 17 months.  I guess what they do isn&#039;t important to Rangel.</p>
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		<title>By: Da King</title>
		<link>http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/da_kings_men/2008/06/06/the-judgement-thing/#comment-3658</link>
		<dc:creator>Da King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 01:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heresy, yes. 

But is it divisive ? I was shooting for that as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heresy, yes. </p>
<p>But is it divisive ? I was shooting for that as well.</p>
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		<title>By: roysoldboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>roysoldboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 19:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I won't be worrying unless they win something I don't think they can win once people find out anything at all about Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I won&#039;t be worrying unless they win something I don&#039;t think they can win once people find out anything at all about Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: larry d.</title>
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		<dc:creator>larry d.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 11:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The authorities will be visiting you roy, probably sometime late next January.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The authorities will be visiting you roy, probably sometime late next January.</p>
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